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Simple really - can you use the wraith stone while embarked on a wave serpent to heal a wound on a knight or lord within 6" of the serpent?

The item says during my movement phase, nominate a lord/knight within 6" of the bearer... Does being embarked mean I measure from the hull?

Usually it is measure from the hull in the case of vehicles. As to if you can use it or not depends on if you need LoS and have a FP. If you just pick a model and it affects them I don't really see any reason why not if you have a FP. Psychers have similar problems but generally if the vehicle doesn't have FP they can only affect the vehicle they are sitting in.

Yes, you would measure from the Hull like other area effects.

To nominate it you usually need LOS, if you do then you cannot draw LOS from the fire points on vehicles for anything other then firing.

Most vehicles don't have real FP on them.

MarkyMark wrote:
To nominate it you usually need LOS, if you do then you cannot draw LOS from the fire points on vehicles for anything other then firing.

And what in the Wraithforge Stone's description requires LOS? LOS and "Targeting" is purely a mechanic of shooting.

MarkyMark wrote:To nominate it you usually need LOS, if you do then you cannot draw LOS from the fire points on vehicles for anything other then firing.

Why do you need LOS for things that just say "within blah inches" ?

Imperial Deceit wrote:Most vehicles don't have real FP on them.

and the eldar transports dont have FP at all.

Zagman wrote:

MarkyMark wrote:
To nominate it you usually need LOS, if you do then you cannot draw LOS from the fire points on vehicles for anything other then firing.

And what in the Wraithforge Stone's description requires LOS? LOS and "Targeting" is purely a mechanic of shooting.

Thanks for the pedantic reply, I said usually, I do not know the wording of the wraithforge stone.

By the way wrong there, line of sight appears before shooting, it is a general principle of the game.


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jcress410 wrote:

MarkyMark wrote:To nominate it you usually need LOS, if you do then you cannot draw LOS from the fire points on vehicles for anything other then firing.

Why do you need LOS for things that just say "within blah inches" ?

Imperial Deceit wrote:Most vehicles don't have real FP on them.

and the eldar transports dont have FP at all.

Well just checked my copy of the it and it says Nominate a model within 6inches of the bearer. Its hardly as cut and dry as you say.

It doesn't invoke LOS, and it isn't a psychic power (despite the fact it is eldar, power-y, and all that).

I don't see what would require LOS, so measure from hull.

MarkyMark wrote:


Well just checked my copy of the it and it says Nominate a model within 6inches of the bearer.

Is this all to it? If it only requires a model to be within 6'' and it's not been FAQ'd otherweise, it's pretty clear: you don't need LOS, measure from the hull.

MarkyMark wrote:
To nominate it you usually need LOS, if you do then you cannot draw LOS from the fire points on vehicles for anything other then firing.

That's not true.

"Nominating" a unit has no relation to Line of Sight. You merely have to select a model within X" of your own model. The rulebook tells us how to do this is our model is in a vehicle.

From what I've seen, it's things which "target" a unit that require Line of sight. However again, I don't believe there is a rule saying that Targeting requires line of sight.

Iranna.

I read it as measuring from the hull as well but have had that challenged and could not point to a pg in the brb that covered it

 Massaen wrote:
I read it as measuring from the hull as well but have had that challenged and could not point to a pg in the brb that covered it

Page 78 - it's the line just above the last paragraph.