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I don't think we are getting a Dominatrix or Norn Queen. They aren't going to make a bigger, more psychic/Synapsy Tervison. I could see them making an Apocalypse kit a la Tesseract Vault, Baneblade, or Lord of Skulls, but not something like that for the base game.

-Loki- wrote:

 brassangel wrote:
Chances are it will be $85.00, like most of the new huge monsters. Also, don't be surprised if the Tervigon/Tyrannofex kit goes from $57.75 to $85. I'm not even joking. You may want to get some before that happens.

What exactly will they add/remove from that kit to put in a price increase? Remember, they're only doing price increases now when a kit is repackaged.

Though they could repackage it with a new name on the box. I'd gladly take the price rise if we drop the fething dumb names and go to Exocrine and Malefactor.

You make a good point about the pricing policy as of late. I, perhaps, am a tad cynical about this, knowing that most kits anywhere near Tervigon-sized released since then have been $74 and up. I hope they stay cheap, because it's more plastic than the Riptide or Lizardman Carnosaur for 40% cheaper.

Well, a game magazine reporter (I think from Italy) had apparently seen the model, or sketch, but was not allowed to photo it...

He described it as

"...It is an enormous creature, with an immense abdomen/transport sac, that spills over the sides of a large oval base. It has tiny vestigial arms similar to a Zoanthropes, and a head with a tentacle ringed maw. The giant abdomen/sac looks swollen, and has internal protuberances looking like Tyranid creatures are stretching the skin from within, about to rip their way out. It has forward arms options that can be upgraded for various biomorph/weapon options."

Also, $115 price point had been mentioned before on this....



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 krazynadechukr wrote:
Well, a game magazine reporter (I think from Italy) had apparently seen the model, or sketch, but was not allowed to photo it...

He described it as

"...It is an enormous creature, with an immense abdomen/transport sac, that spills over the sides of a large oval base. It has tiny vestigial arms similar to a Zoanthropes, and a head with a tentacle ringed maw. The giant abdomen/sac looks swollen, and has internal protuberances looking like Tyranid creatures are stretching the skin from within, about to rip their way out. It has forward arms options that can be upgraded for various biomorph/weapon options."

Also, $115 price point had been mentioned before on this....



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That wasn't the description of the Mycetic Spore/Hive Node kit?

I think that's the Mycetic Spore/Other Thing kit. Remove the abdomen sac and/or replace it with something else, flip a few bits around, and it makes another monster.

Maybe I'll be wrong (as usual) and it will be a Queeny type bug, but I don't know if I like the "more leader than a HT or Swarmlord" in the core game. She'd have to be about 400 points considering a Swarmlord is 280. Again, I'd expect that in Apocalypse, just not in 40k.

$115 Mycetic Spore would be ridiculous. Who is going to pay that much for a drop pod even if it could also be assembled into another monster?

 Absolutionis wrote:
$115 Mycetic Spore would be ridiculous. Who is going to pay that much for a drop pod even if it could also be assembled into another monster?

I might, if it looks cool enough.

The only rumor killing me is the Psychic power rumor. Level 2 psykers with only 1 power seems like a real disadvantage. Im wondering if this limitation would apply only to codex tyranid powers which would have powers written to be used with 2 warp charges or all powers in general. If it applies to rule book powers as well its a very limiting factor when creating a list. Big deal to such a psyker heavy army.

 -Loki- wrote:

 brassangel wrote:
Chances are it will be $85.00, like most of the new huge monsters. Also, don't be surprised if the Tervigon/Tyrannofex kit goes from $57.75 to $85. I'm not even joking. You may want to get some before that happens.

What exactly will they add/remove from that kit to put in a price increase? Remember, they're only doing price increases now when a kit is repackaged.

Though they could repackage it with a new name on the box. I'd gladly take the price rise if we drop the fething dumb names and go to Exocrine and Malefactor.

I prefer Tervigon/Tyrannofex over the Exocrine and Malefactor. I do like the Haruspex as a name though.

They ought to throw in a sprue or two of termigants to the kit if they are going to bump it to $85. Otherwise, I can't see it jumping to more than say $66 from it's current price.

I took ALL the rumors and compiled them like I did the Marines. Hopefully this makes it easier to get an idea of what the book might hold in store: http://www.talkwargaming.com/2013/09/lets-talk-tyranids.html

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 brassangel wrote:
Chances are it will be $85.00, like most of the new huge monsters. Also, don't be surprised if the Tervigon/Tyrannofex kit goes from $57.75 to $85. I'm not even joking. You may want to get some before that happens.

What exactly will they add/remove from that kit to put in a price increase? Remember, they're only doing price increases now when a kit is repackaged.

Though they could repackage it with a new name on the box. I'd gladly take the price rise if we drop the fething dumb names and go to Exocrine and Malefactor.

I prefer Tervigon/Tyrannofex over the Exocrine and Malefactor. I do like the Haruspex as a name though.

They ought to throw in a sprue or two of termigants to the kit if they are going to bump it to $85. Otherwise, I can't see it jumping to more than say $66 from it's current price.

Even so, I'm hoping it doesn't go up at all. Recent armies haven't seen an increase on existing kits, but I remember when the last "evaluation" took the Stormraven from $66 to $82.50.

ClockworkZion wrote:
I took ALL the rumors and compiled them like I did the Marines. Hopefully this makes it easier to get an idea of what the book might hold in store: http://www.talkwargaming.com/2013/09/lets-talk-tyranids.html

Neat. I'd like to add that we do have a potential candidate for the codex author:

Next I spoke to Phil Kelly (the dude) who again is a really sound guy (and by the way - he isn't leaving GW).

Phil said that there are currently 6 ‘projects’ on the go for 40k. I think he was referring to Codex’s. I asked him about Tyranids too and he said (rather excitedly) that he has ‘some really great ideas up his sleeve’ for the Nids. Sounds encouraging! It's worth noting that everyone I spoke to in the design team understands the need for Nids to get a boost.

It's from Faeit, but I would hope that site could get a trip report right.

Personally, I just want some "in the ballpark" rumors on troop choices. I'm of the personal opinion that a codex lives and dies on its troops, so I'm insanely curious to see what Tyranids do with Warriors and Hormagaunts.

The rest is neat, but that's what I really want to know.

MadmanMSU wrote:
Personally, I just want some "in the ballpark" rumors on troop choices. I'm of the personal opinion that a codex lives and dies on its troops, so I'm insanely curious to see what Tyranids do with Warriors and Hormagaunts.

The rest is neat, but that's what I really want to know.

And Stealers, they're the real big one.

I haven't seen anything other than the recut Termigant box. There was a rumor that they might share the box with Stealers, but that makes no sense seeing as Stealers are bigger, wider and have their own box.

So it didn't make my list.

ClockworkZion wrote:
I haven't seen anything other than the recut Termigant box. There was a rumor that they might share the box with Stealers, but that makes no sense seeing as Stealers are bigger, wider and have their own box.

So it didn't make my list.

I don't think they'd cross those two kits over. GW does seem to want more hybrid kits, and fewer of the 1-trick ponies, but Genestealers are so radically different in stance, stature, and even head design than the others that I can't imagine GW crossing them over with anything except other Genestealer variants.

Surely a Tyranid Warrior (let alone a Prime) won't fit in a character clamshell...?

 brassangel wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:
I haven't seen anything other than the recut Termigant box. There was a rumor that they might share the box with Stealers, but that makes no sense seeing as Stealers are bigger, wider and have their own box.

So it didn't make my list.

I don't think they'd cross those two kits over. GW does seem to want more hybrid kits, and fewer of the 1-trick ponies, but Genestealers are so radically different in stance, stature, and even head design than the others that I can't imagine GW crossing them over with anything except other Genestealer variants.

Agreed. The only logical combination box would be the horms and terms, but I thought there used to be a "gaunts" box?

There used to be a kit that came with 8 terma and 8 hormagaunts. That box has been gone a while now thou

Apex Brood: The Prime can take a single retinue of "Apex" Warriors, Raveners or Shrikes. They receive T/WS/BS +1

Hmmm, so Warriors et al can now avoid being insta-gibbed by str8-9, interesting.
I wonder if they'll improve their save somehow or allow them a biomorph so one can make a really hard hitting mini deathstar unit.

Liking the Apex brood idea personally, nice bit of "character" to it.




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 Ratius wrote:
I wonder if they'll improve their save somehow or allow them a biomorph so one can make a really hard hitting mini deathstar unit.

So a Prime with 2xBS running with a squad of BS/LW Warriors doesn't hit hard enough for you? The only problem is the insta-gib. If I could give the Prime wings, and give the Shrikes the BS/WS bonus (since they are just warriors with mobility instead of armor), it would be a huge threat if they could avoid S8+ overwatch.

I would love to see a squad of 6+Prime HoW, then ID wound, but I'm afraid it would have to be a pricey option, if included at all.

I agree though, Apex brood is a nice concept.

First pic for the codex right here:

http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11306374-portada-del-codex-tiranido/

 juanjopotro wrote:
First pic for the codex right here:

http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11306374-portada-del-codex-tiranido/

No, it's bogus. As said on several other sites/places now.


Is it possible they could be putting Horms and Gaunts on the same sprue? I don't know if that's even possible, but it seems like that could possibly be a dual kit. Aren't Terms just Horms with guns instead of claws?

(Admittedly, I have a box of each in my basement, I just haven't opened them yet. Probably look at them tonight out of curiosity.)

MadmanMSU wrote:

 juanjopotro wrote:
First pic for the codex right here:

http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11306374-portada-del-codex-tiranido/

No, it's bogus. As said on several other sites/places now.


Is it possible they could be putting Horms and Gaunts on the same sprue? I don't know if that's even possible, but it seems like that could possibly be a dual kit. Aren't Terms just Horms with guns instead of claws?

(Admittedly, I have a box of each in my basement, I just haven't opened them yet. Probably look at them tonight out of curiosity.)

Bogus because it's on german? pfft...

Spanish*


But I hope its not fake... it looks cool :(

Bogus because it is soft cover.

I don't know... It looks pretty hard cover to me.

Bloodhorror wrote:
Spanish*


But I hope its not fake... it looks cool :(

That isn't Spanish, "Tyranids" in Spanish is "Tiránidos"
I believe "Tyraniden" is German.

Bloodhorror wrote:
I don't know... It looks pretty hard cover to me.

See how the cover page is even with the rest of the pages and the bottom right corner curves up like it is slightly bent?
Hardcovers don't do that.

That artworks by Jon Sullivan and was used for Catechism of Hate:

http://www.jonsullivanart.com/CATECHISM%20OF%20HATE%2036.htm

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/art-of-catechisms.html

To be fair, they have reused artwork before though.