Tyranid Rumours (1st post updated with hive guard pic.)

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**bu11etmagn3tt**

pretre wrote:
bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
It is so funny in a RUMORS thread that a collective *sigh* of resignation can be seen with this "flimsy" information...

"...anonymous source .......- Tyranids are delayed till January .....It was mentioned that they always were to be released in January but I'm not able to prove that....."

No one should be sighing in resignation. We know that Nids are far off from the actual reliable mongers. Anyone who got all excited about Nidvember from Faeit and Stickmonkey are probably in for a lot of disappointment.

Yet the jan rumor comes from same source.... lol.

**brassangel**

bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
pretre wrote:
bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
It is so funny in a RUMORS thread that a collective *sigh* of resignation can be seen with this "flimsy" information...

"...anonymous source .......- Tyranids are delayed till January .....It was mentioned that they always were to be released in January but I'm not able to prove that....."

No one should be sighing in resignation. We know that Nids are far off from the actual reliable mongers. Anyone who got all excited about Nidvember from Faeit and Stickmonkey are probably in for a lot of disappointment.

Yet the jan rumor comes from same source.... lol.

Right?

I suppose the proper course of action would be to lower expectations and then be pleasantly surprised. Sure beats the alternative.

**Ferrum_Sanguinis**

I'm actually hoping Nids are in fact in January. With both the PS4 and the new SM 'dex, I could not see myself getting Nids when they first came out. Having them in January gives me time to recoup my losses, especially if I get any money for Xmas

**RiTides**

pretre wrote:
Vhalyar wrote:
Finally a rumor on Faeit that's actually believable. Tyranids "pushed back" to January, but as noted... except it wasn't actually pushed back. Jan was always intended.

Aaaannd no surprise here.

Wait, no Nidvember?

Pretre, can you link me to where the "reliable rumor mongers" also predicted it'd be later? I thought they were predicting November (or at least, that extrapolation from their predictions pointed to November)?

And, if not Nids, what is predicted for November release?

**pretre**

RiTides wrote:
Pretre, can you link me to where the "reliable rumor mongers" also predicted it'd be later? I thought they were predicting November (or at least, that extrapolation from their predictions pointed to November)?

And, if not Nids, what is predicted for November release?

Hastings somewhat confirmed that Nids were after SM and then IG. He never gave a specific month. The only ones to give a specific month are just the less than reliable ones.

**Magos Explorator**

Puscifer wrote:
Magos Explorator wrote:
Puscifer wrote:
One thing I'd like to see is a transport beast.

Instead of making Tervigon a spawning beast, let it transport Termagants and support them with Synapse and other goodies.

My memory may be failing, but I thought in Epic there were larger transport creatures (Malefactor, Haruspex). Perhaps some of those will make it in (there were other creatures of that size too, e.g. Exocrine, Dactylis).

You are indeed correct.

One thing I have heard is that GW are revisiting two of those creatures for the massive dual kit.

Thanks for the confirmation! I remember playing Epic games against the many and varied larger beasts, although always got confused about which was which! I think it'd be nice to see, since presumably they'd be something in the range of Trygon/Land Raider/Wraithknight size range (although probably long rather than tall).

**brassangel**

pretre wrote:
RiTides wrote:
Pretre, can you link me to where the "reliable rumor mongers" also predicted it'd be later? I thought they were predicting November (or at least, that extrapolation from their predictions pointed to November)?

And, if not Nids, what is predicted for November release?

Hastings somewhat confirmed that Nids were after SM and then IG. He never gave a specific month. The only ones to give a specific month are just the less than reliable ones.

He never really confirmed anything - just that Tyranids, IG, and Orks were all after Space Marines (in some order).

**pretre**

Isn't that what I just said?

**Puscifer**

I hope these new January rumours are false.

I just bought the start of a Nid army in prep for Nidvember.

It also doesn't make sense.

Release in November should be a 40k one for an Xmas Megaforce and one click deals.
December is for the Hobbit.

My money is still on November.

**brassangel**

pretre wrote:Isn't that what I just said?

You said "Hastings somewhat confirmed that Nids were after SM and then IG." I misread that as you claiming Hastings said Tyranids were after IG.

My mistake.

Puscifer wrote:
I hope these new January rumours are false.

I just bought the start of a Nid army in prep for Nidvember.

It also doesn't make sense.

Release in November should be a 40k one for an Xmas Megaforce and one click deals.
December is for the Hobbit.

My money is still on November.

That's not really on GW if you bought your Nid force early though. It's more on the rumor mongers, and those of us who chose to believe them.

**Puscifer**

brassangel wrote:
pretre wrote:Isn't that what I just said?

You said "Hastings somewhat confirmed that Nids were after SM and then IG." I misread that as you claiming Hastings said Tyranids were after IG.

My mistake.

Puscifer wrote:
I hope these new January rumours are false.

I just bought the start of a Nid army in prep for Nidvember.

It also doesn't make sense.

Release in November should be a 40k one for an Xmas Megaforce and one click deals.
December is for the Hobbit.

My money is still on November.

That's not really on GW if you bought your Nid force early though. It's more on the rumor mongers, and those of us who chose to believe them.

I'm not blaming GW for me buying my bits before hand, just hoping that the January rumours are wrong.

Also... I can't remember the last time GW spread a release over two consecutive months.

Necrons had a big release on one month, then a small release a few months later. This two month Dark Elf release does not fit with their regular release strategy.

I've seen people say that they are doing it so people can afford to buy the new Dark Elf bits and spread the spend as most of the range has been redone.

Since when did GW care if you could afford their models or not? Errrrrrm... Space Marine Chapter for £7065... How many people can afford that?

I see the Dark Elves getting a big release. Everything in one go. They are apparently getting 7+ boxes and a handful of clamshells... Necrons and Tau had more than that if memory serves and people grabbed them up pretty quickly.

**DufenDorgen**

Tyran wrote:
Semper wrote:
Swarmlord stats seem like wishlisting to me, that thing would be overly powerful. 2+ save AND a 4++, ML 4 in addition to the rest of the upgrades? Even Abby or Draigo would struggle to handle that on a par.

He already beats them in CC thanks to Biomancy, but at 280 points, it still is very vulnerable to poison and missiles.

I play swarmlord every game and I've tried to make him work. It's true, even with tyrant guard (2 makes him 400) He still gets shot off the board. Even when he he houses, he never makes his points back. He's easier to kill than a Trygon in the shooting phase. With a 2+sv and 4+ invuln he's just a little harder to kill than a dread knight in the shooting phase exept the dread knight will probably be up in your grill turn two.

**Puscifer**

DufenDorgen wrote:
Tyran wrote:
Semper wrote:
Swarmlord stats seem like wishlisting to me, that thing would be overly powerful. 2+ save AND a 4++, ML 4 in addition to the rest of the upgrades? Even Abby or Draigo would struggle to handle that on a par.

He already beats them in CC thanks to Biomancy, but at 280 points, it still is very vulnerable to poison and missiles.
I play swarmlord every game and I've tried to make him work. It's true, even with tyrant guard (2 makes him 400) He still gets shot off the board. Even when he he houses, he never makes his points back. He's easier to kill than a Trygon in the shooting phase. With a 2+sv and 4+ invuln he's just a little harder to kill than a dread knight in the shooting phase exept the dread knight will probably be up in your grill turn two.

Are you using him with Biomancy?

He's harder than a rail road spike with Iron Arm and Endurance and only one TG..

Potential toughness 9 with a lot of wounds.

**DufenDorgen**

Puscifer wrote:
DufenDorgen wrote:
Tyran wrote:
Semper wrote:
Swarmlord stats seem like wishlisting to me, that thing would be overly powerful. 2+ save AND a 4++, ML 4 in addition to the rest of the upgrades? Even Abby or Draigo would struggle to handle that on a par.

He already beats them in CC thanks to Biomancy, but at 280 points, it still is very vulnerable to poison and missiles.
I play swarmlord every game and I've tried to make him work. It's true, even with tyrant guard (2 makes him 400) He still gets shot off the board. Even when he he houses, he never makes his points back. He's easier to kill than a Trygon in the shooting phase. With a 2+sv and 4+ invuln he's just a little harder to kill than a dread knight in the shooting phase exept the dread knight will probably be up in your grill turn two.

Are you using him with Biomancy?

He's harder than a rail road spike with Iron Arm and Endurance and only one TG..

Potential toughness 9 with a lot of wounds.

Yeah he's harder to kill, though snipers don't care and t9 is better to just ignore, though opponents HAVE turns to just leave him alone a smart one will wait until iron arm fails or you roll t7. He doesn't have fleet so you just kinda march across the board and your opponent deals with him at their leisure, at which point they can shoot him dead, tar pit him or let him assault a unit that will still cost far less than he does, turn 5 game ends.

**Puscifer**

DufenDorgen wrote:
Puscifer wrote:
DufenDorgen wrote:
Tyran wrote:
Semper wrote:
Swarmlord stats seem like wishlisting to me, that thing would be overly powerful. 2+ save AND a 4++, ML 4 in addition to the rest of the upgrades? Even Abby or Draigo would struggle to handle that on a par.

He already beats them in CC thanks to Biomancy, but at 280 points, it still is very vulnerable to poison and missiles.
I play swarmlord every game and I've tried to make him work. It's true, even with tyrant guard (2 makes him 400) He still gets shot off the board. Even when he he houses, he never makes his points back. He's easier to kill than a Trygon in the shooting phase. With a 2+sv and 4+ invuln he's just a little harder to kill than a dread knight in the shooting phase exept the dread knight will probably be up in your grill turn two.

Are you using him with Biomancy?

He's harder than a rail road spike with Iron Arm and Endurance and only one TG..

Potential toughness 9 with a lot of wounds.
Yeah he's harder to kill, though snipers don't care and t9 is better to just ignore, though opponents HAVE turns to just leave him alone a smart one will wait until iron arm fails or you roll t7. He doesn't have fleet so you just kinda march across the board and your opponent deals with him at their leisure, at which point they can shoot him dead, tar pit him or let him assault a unit that will still cost far less than he does, turn 5 game ends.

This is what I've just found too.

If he gets there, he murders stuff as long as it isn't a Tarpit.

Flyrants all the way it seems.

**bu11etmagn3tt**

Puscifer wrote:
I hope these new January rumours are false.

Rumor. Singular.

The single rumor from Tim the Traitor, or Tim the Turd, or something like that is just reposted on several blog sites.

One single rumor, from an unknown source that Tim (?) posted on faeit212.....

**RiTides**

I think it'd be odd if, since all signs indicate Tyranids are the next 40k release, they didn't hit until January.

That'd mean there'd be no new 40k release this year! And GW has been on a roll with 40k releases.

I just can't see that happening, so given the single source on January, my money is still on November. Thanks for the clarification, pretre!

**pretre**

RiTides wrote:
I think it'd be odd if, since all signs indicate Tyranids are the next 40k release, they didn't hit until January.

That'd mean there'd be no new 40k release this year! And GW has been on a roll with 40k releases.

I just can't see that happening, so given the single source on January, my money is still on November. Thanks for the clarification, pretre!

You'll probably see supplements but no other 40k releases this year. That's my guess. I'll probably be eating my words if Nidvember happens though.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

don't be too hostile

everybody was very sceptical of the newbie rumourer who said GW was going to sell a whole Ultramarines Chapter bundle

but he was right (and I've not seen any apologies from the doubters yet either)

Now I'm not saying Tim is right or wrong, just that's its probably wise to give him time to show which is which

**HoverBoy**

Lower expectations to reduce chances of disappointment, and increase odds of pleasant surprise.

**SJM**

So I decide to start a new army, I pick Tyranids, then find this thread haha oh dear.

I want to get started with some models but obviously don't want to waste time.

Whats a safe bet? Was thinking of just starting with some Termagants, would that be a safe choice?

**c0j1r0**

I'm fine with a January release. Gives me time to work on other projects and save up more money. We'll be getting a new codex soon either way.

**bu11etmagn3tt**

What we do know is-

October & November WDs are filled with Tyranid content. Numerous pics and info of those upcoming issues have been posted. So that is a fact.

There are several huge Tyranid armies on display at Warhammer World in England suddenly, now. Many pics on those too. Fact.

FW started selling Tyranid overlord swarm bundle a few days ago. Yes, that might be just because of Apocalypse though. Threads and pics of that. Fact.

So there is a lot of Tyranid ramping up, and if it is ramping up now (Oct/Nov), why would it not come out in Nidvember?

Besides Nidvember sounds better than NIduary.

**pretre**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
don't be too hostile

everybody was very sceptical of the newbie rumourer who said GW was going to sell a whole Ultramarines Chapter bundle

but he was right (and I've not seen any apologies from the doubters yet either)

Now I'm not saying Tim is right or wrong, just that's its probably wise to give him time to show which is which

When did he say they were selling the whole chapter? Pretty sure that wasn't him.

The problem with Tim is the problem with many rumor mongers. Shifting targets. Check out his release date rumors:

October: Dark Elves or Mystery Box
November: Nids
December: Terrain and Hobbit
February 2014 - Dwarves or Dark Elves
March 2014 - IG/ Orks and Supplement
April 2014 - Brets
May 2014 - Space Wolves
June 2014 - 9th edition
July 2014 - Epic? or Warhammer Fantasy 30th editon
August 2014 - Epic? or Orks and Goblins
September 2014 - Supplement
October 2014 - Wood Elves
November 2014 - BA or SOB

That's a lot of waffling and a bit of it is after someone else says something different. I think he's just making guesses.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

I didn't mean it was Tim who had made the Chapter prediction,

I was just using it as an example of a rumour-monger who was bashed for what turned out to be right

(my personal suspicion on Tim is you're right and he's guessing)

**Puscifer**

SJM wrote:
So I decide to start a new army, I pick Tyranids, then find this thread haha oh dear.

I want to get started with some models but obviously don't want to waste time.

Whats a safe bet? Was thinking of just starting with some Termagants, would that be a safe choice?

Termagants and a Tyrant.

Paint the Termagants, wait for when the new Dex hits or we get hard confirmation or leaks on what is good for the tyrant.

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bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
What we do know is-

October & November WDs are filled with Tyranid content. Numerous pics and info of those upcoming issues have been posted. So that is a fact.

There are several huge Tyranid armies on display at Warhammer World in England suddenly, now. Many pics on those too. Fact.

FW started selling Tyranid overlord swarm bundle a few days ago. Yes, that might be just because of Apocalypse though. Threads and pics of that. Fact.

So there is a lot of Tyranid ramping up, and if it is ramping up now (Oct/Nov), why would it not come out in Nidvember?

Besides Nidvember sounds better than NIduary.

Have you got a link to the pics please?

I heard a rumour from a close friend who works there, that there was a massive cock up with the set up of the armies. Something about Warriors leading Gaunts.

**bu11etmagn3tt**

krazynadechukr wrote:
Oh, and BTW, November White Dwarf showcases the Tyranid Army used in a recent battle report....

translation from Italian site -

The images I've posted a few hours ago in the previous article showed possible new Tyranid models and the image was taken from a WD that would seem to be the one of November. Now, however, there are some questions because I show you this picture.
is taken from a previous WD showing how the Tyranid Army of the Month by Jes Bickham. See how the color scheme of this army is the same as the blurry photo you propose again here for convenience.

I suspected as new models are nothing more than changes of Jes, for example, one of them is in fact his Ierodulo amended visible in the upper right. Do you recognize it perfectly from the queue.
The fact remains that the blurry picture has never appeared on a WD already gone, so is definitely part of the future and a WD 's "Halloween Mass" gives us confirmation for advance orders on October 26 and the outlet stores on November 2.

The "link" is right here in this rumor thread, for the WD....

**Redemption**

That's from an already released WD, nothing to do with future releases.

**bu11etmagn3tt**

Redemption wrote:
That's from an already released WD, nothing to do with future releases.

and that my friends is a rumor from the faeit212 from Tuesday, September 3, 2013.....

**Redemption**

Wasn't really a rumour, so much as just some guy thinking a blurry pic of someone's converted model hiding in the background could be something new.