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I also just checked GW's website - Warriors are "expected to ship in 2 to 3 weeks" so take for that what you will.

E: and I'll quote this for the new page:

 Brother SRM wrote:
Sup plastic Hiveguard

Link for huge:
http://i.imgur.com/xoCQJlx.jpg

WHOA. I did not expect to see a picture of new Tyranid models when I woke up this morning.

My first impression at the tweaked poses and reduced bulkiness was shock, but these definitely look a LOT more like units that are meant to be skulking around occupied territory, defending it from the shadows.

The old ones looked pretty much like Tyrant Guard with guns.

Would not be surprised if these came in at Toughness 5 now.

Joyboozer wrote:
The guard on the left seems to be armed with some kind of alien probe device, perhaps now Space Marines will know fear?

Its the Unknown Biomorph gun from the rulebook:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/d/d2/UnknownBio.jpg/250px-UnknownBio.jpg

happy early birthday present for me. Those look cool.

I now feel like a kid at Christmas!

I'm getting a clunky and very 3rd edition vibe from these guys. Limbs and faces remind me of the 3rd ed. Carnifex and Hive Tyrant.

T

Yeah from those photos, I personally prefer the old sculpt, these ones seem a little too tall, but I won't pass judgement yet could just be the photo.

2D photos and bland studio paintjobs often don't tell the whole story. Even the Centurions looked better in person.

That said...

SWEET!!!

If these are on 60mm bases, I think they are much larger than people are anticipating. The longer limbs are probably no less "thick" than their predecessors, just less stumpy. I like that.

Why in the world would they be on 60mm bases?

Edit: If they were, they'd be almost as tall as a Carnifex, and there's no way GW are boxing three of them together then.

I think I'll still buy a third fine cast one and keep them as my impalor guard and then use the box to make 3 of the new gun variants, provided they come with enough guns to do that.


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I think I'll still buy a third fine cast one and keep them as my impalor guard and then use the box to make 3 of the new gun variants, provided they come with enough guns to do that.

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
The guard on the left seems to be armed with some kind of alien probe device, perhaps now Space Marines will know fear?

Its the Unknown Biomorph gun from the rulebook:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/d/d2/UnknownBio.jpg/250px-UnknownBio.jpg

I'm pretending it's an anal probe. Fear that space marine!

Have we had any rumours on what is going to happen to instinctive behaviour?

They'd be too big on 60mm bases and too small on 40mm. Oh, if only Games Workshop had recently released a kit on new 50mm bases and needed to justify the mass production of 50s...

Son, I am dissapoint.

I was waiting for plastic Hive Guard but now it seems I have to buy 3 finecast asap. The new ones look much worse imo.

Dominar and Karkanos that sounds helldrakish bad.

Not that I really care there is a crapton of great nid models, still a bad start though.

Plumbumbarum wrote:
Son, I am dissapoint.

I was waiting for plastic Hive Guard but now it seems I have to buy 3 finecast asap. The new ones look much worse imo.

Dominar and Karkanos that sounds helldrakish bad.

Not that I really care there is a crapton of great nid models, still a bad start though.

At least you are being reasonable, and not jumping the gun on this one.....

Yes very reasonable because it took me one look to see the models are fail. For me ofc subjective etc.

Dominar and Karkanos might be only a rumor though, there's still hope for some good names.

These seem to be taller yes. I can see why they changed the claws to hands though: the old models had the Tyrant Guard's rending claws, while in the rules the Hive Guard only have basic claws and teeth.

I still think it will be a dual kit though: we can't see the entire box, so the Tyrant Guard are most likelyfeatured on the back. Take the front of the Wraithguard box for example, it makes no mention of the alternate Wraithblade build either.

BunnyCommando wrote:
They'd be too big on 60mm bases and too small on 40mm. Oh, if only Games Workshop had recently released a kit on new 50mm bases and needed to justify the mass production of 50s...

Was skeptical, but I am going to have to agree with Bunny: 50mm bases.

If they are both on 40mm bases the new model is much too small:


With new model on 50mm base:


Tim

Nice effort, and quite convincing.

If they're on 50mm's I'd wager that increases the likelihood of a dual-kit. Unless they just rerelease the same Finecast Tyrant Guard with bigger bases, like they did at one point with Biovores.

wow i just cant belive how much better the old model is... .so disapointing start!!

also that new wepon dosent look much the uknown one form the big rulebook...other than the 3 talons its a complete diferent weapon...unless they completly failed to make the model of it!!!

Sikamikanic0 wrote:
wow i just cant belive how much better the old model is... .so disapointing start!!

also that new wepon dosent look much the uknown one form the big rulebook...other than the 3 talons its a complete diferent weapon...unless they completly failed to make the model of it!!!

You have to be kidding, surely? This is a low quality image and only one angle offered so far on a model, and yet you have already condemned it to being worse than its predecessor?
Why do people on the Warhammer Fantasy/40K forums always judge a model off of the initial leaked photos? Almost without fail they end up changing their opinions at least somewhat when they see them in person or on the website.
Calm down and wait for better pictures.

Those look like 50m bases to me, which indicates they are going to be quite a bit bulkier than the old ones. I'll reserve judgement (duh) on them and any other leaks I see, but that we can at least tell the Hive Guard are bigger than they used to be is cool to know.

The new model is fine... although the only reason I could think to buy them is if they're also a Tyrant Guard kit with all weapon options.

I already have 6 resin/metal Hive Guard and I have no doubt that I'm not alone in that.

Okay, I like those; the poses are different... though the sizing is making me look at it weird, and they have some personality to the face besides the standard "Tyranid sticking out their tongue" look.

I want to see them in hand before final judgement is passed.

Caederes wrote:

Sikamikanic0 wrote:
wow i just cant belive how much better the old model is... .so disapointing start!!

also that new wepon dosent look much the uknown one form the big rulebook...other than the 3 talons its a complete diferent weapon...unless they completly failed to make the model of it!!!

You have to be kidding, surely? This is a low quality image and only one angle offered so far on a model, and yet you have already condemned it to being worse than its predecessor?
Why do people on the Warhammer Fantasy/40K forums always judge a model off of the initial leaked photos? Almost without fail they end up changing their opinions at least somewhat when they see them in person or on the website.
Calm down and wait for better pictures.

Those look like 50m bases to me, which indicates they are going to be quite a bit bulkier than the old ones. I'll reserve judgement (duh) on them and any other leaks I see, but that we can at least tell the Hive Guard are bigger than they used to be is cool to know.

the first impressiopn is always the most accurate friend..and no i am not kidding at all... you calm down and respect the opinios of the others...

i got dissapointed byt hat picture...simple as that....even the spike rifle looks tiny and hilarius...but i have to agree that the front of that model is not that good looking like the side of it..

and how can you tell that those are 50mm?? no way to tell that they are 99% 40mm

Sikamikanic0 wrote:
and how can you tell that those are 50mm?? no way to tell that they are 99% 40mm

Scroll up and look at timd's comparison pictures. If they were on 40mm bases, they would be tiny.

Sikamikanic0 wrote:

Caederes wrote:

Sikamikanic0 wrote:
wow i just cant belive how much better the old model is... .so disapointing start!!

also that new wepon dosent look much the uknown one form the big rulebook...other than the 3 talons its a complete diferent weapon...unless they completly failed to make the model of it!!!

You have to be kidding, surely? This is a low quality image and only one angle offered so far on a model, and yet you have already condemned it to being worse than its predecessor?
Why do people on the Warhammer Fantasy/40K forums always judge a model off of the initial leaked photos? Almost without fail they end up changing their opinions at least somewhat when they see them in person or on the website.
Calm down and wait for better pictures.

Those look like 50m bases to me, which indicates they are going to be quite a bit bulkier than the old ones. I'll reserve judgement (duh) on them and any other leaks I see, but that we can at least tell the Hive Guard are bigger than they used to be is cool to know.

the first impressiopn is always the most accurate friend..and no i am not kidding at all... you calm down and respect the opinios of the others...

i got dissapointed byt hat picture...simple as that....even the spike rifle looks tiny and hilarius...but i have to agree that the front of that model is not that good looking like the side of it..

and how can you tell that those are 50mm?? no way to tell that they are 99% 40mm

Are you trolling? The first impression of nearly any leaked GW model is almost always wrong. Go back to all of the previous 6th Edition releases and look at how opinions from noted critics of the new models have changed once high quality pictures and different angles of the new models have popped up. I'm the one being calm here, mate. It's not my fault you are clearly jumping the gun on what are clearly low-res pictures taken with a low quality phone camera, but if you want to judge a new kit based off of such evidence, then all power to you. Just don't disturb rational thinkers who know from experience to wait until we get better pictures, as has been the case with every recent release. Heck, even Centurions, as derided as they are, have gotten a lot more praise since the models actually started popping up in stores.

Timd's comparison photos. That and they are a box of three in plastic in the subsequent 40K release from Space Marines that featured the new 50m base sizes for the first time in a box of three plastic models. Seems pretty obvious to me.

I'm not the biggest fan just yet but Ill hold judgement for a bit.
I don't like the unicorn like horn on the new gun, we've never really seen styling like that on tyranid models so it's a bit odd. Also the sculpt on that gun looks pretty soft and chunky to me at the moment.
Not looking forward to rebasing my hg and tg models although they will look better on that new 50mm size base. Especially as GW don't sell those seperately yet.
The tinfoil hat wearer in me wonders if it's been done as a level of protection against upgrading older model collections or using 3rd parties? eek.
It wouldn't take long for someone else to start knocking them out but hmmm.

Just in time for G.W. to nerf the unit into obscurity when the new codex hits!

 Kroothawk wrote:
First Tyranid release pic leaked to the Internet:


I like these but the feet look a little weird.

I like them, I hate that particular paint scheme and the pics aren't the best though. It looks like the rear legs are bigger and in better proportion to the body, if you look at the current model, while very nice, it is front heavy and out of proportion. The front feet seem more like long alien fingers, allowing for a more "knuckling" type movement. Slightly unsettling but cool -I think it will grow on me. Looking forward to seeing proper pics- they always look better then [and even better in your hands!]. Can't wait to see more!