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Fluff wise. Who would win? I mean can a human like me..put into the 40k world. Eventually become bad assed enough to rank up to the ultiamte warriors space marines?

I mean he DID fight Ghazzy like 3 times I think right? Loose once, Win one I think and I dunno about the third and Ghazzy is still supposedly alive after his last death.


Also is it true that some people like commisars who fall in combat but are not killed are put into like. Regen tanks or whatever as their spine and body are regrown over a long period? I heard someone saying something about that but I never heard about it before.

It matters how many orks are nearby. If there were some orks, yarrick would win out. If not, he would die from a few bolter shots.

Of course the flipside is true too.

The space marine grows taller and more unkillable/badass/bad fanfic uber the more SM fanboys are in the vicinity. Ultimate Warriors? Unless that's a new Chapter i don't know about, it's IOM PR. They're good, but there are better out there

Yarrick and Ghaz's armies have faced off several times. Not sure if they've ever ended up fighting in hand to hand. Ghaz did run him over with a freaking Battlefortress and then have him released after a while as a prisoner, so that he would have someone worth fighting later..

AFAIK Ghazzy has never been killed, but i'm not a huge fan of most BL literature so there may be some fluff on that.

Not sure on the regen tanks. IOM usually just grafts you full of augmetics instead, like Iron Hand Straken..

Difficult to say... a lot of Commissar Yarrick's power lies in his inspirational abilities and knowing more about the Ork mind than most humans, making him highly effective in combat against them. Although he has fought Ghazzy single-handed, he either only managed to delay him or else wasn't killed because Ghazzy was holding back to ensure good fighting on Armageddon in the future.

I can't see him holding out against a Space Marine for very long at all- it basically isn't his department.

Unless he gets to bring the Fortress of Arrogance with him


**edit for earlier post : Ghaz gave Yarrick a near fatal wound in the second war for armageddon (first one with ghaz) and left him for dead, ran over him on Golgotha three years later, and captured him.

They haven't run into each other since. Yarrick is trying to find Ghaz after the Third War, but as far as i can tell they didn't directly run into each other in that one.

IS it a good idea to have yarrick in my ork army if it included Ghazzy? Lol

As far as I remember Yarrick hasn't won a one-on-one fight with Ghazghkull yet. The first time he was headbutted almost unto death, with Yarrick surviving thanks to his "Iron Will". The second time they "met" was on Golgotha and Yarrick was trampled over with a Battlefortress. I don't believe after that they met in personal combat.

Also I think you're referring to rejuvenat treatment tanks when you're talking about commissars who fall in combat. Normally they wouldn't apply such arcane science to random commissars, normally it's exclusive only to members of the Inquisition and other high-ranking members of Imperial society. To me it seems like Yarrick didn't receive any considering his old age features which rejuvenat or equivalents would have rendered youthful. I think he simply got cybernetic enhancements/replacements like his power klaw arm and bionic eye.

Also in terms of combat with a space marine...well that's a very broad term. Loyalist or Traitor marine? Are you talking about a stereotypical tactical marine? A veteran? What is the marine armed with? Is he equipped with something like terminator armour and power weapons? As you can see there is a lot of variables you have to account for.

On average personally I would say no because for you to challenge them you would have to either:

A. Be a powerful enough psyker.

B. Sell your soul to gain unholy power/mutations from the Dark Gods. (which again varies because you could just get tentacley pimples)

C. Alter/enhance yourself with cybernetic weaponry like the Mechanicus does or become something like a bio-weapon ala Arco-Flagellants/Eversor Assassin

D. Have incredibly powerful, idiot-proof weaponry

And as you can in most cases it involves external modifications rather than developed skill-sets. It's not to say humans can't kill marines, the Imperial Guard does it quite routinely against Chaos Marines. It's just that one on one there are very few exceptions where a human can handle a marine, particularly a well-seasoned and armed one. Yarrick in particular is more of an orator and inspirational fighter whose will is such that he is able to keep fighting despite his injuries. Although impressive for a human I think by and large most marines (particularly Captains, Chaos Lords, Chaplains and especially Librarians) could handle him fairly well as long as they had the proper tools.

Yarrick is a battle hardended veteran and tough as nails. I could see him take down some random tactical marine easily especially with that power klaw of his.

Heck, he even has a decent chance against a terminator. But against, say, an chaplain or a captain? No. Not at all.

A named character vs an unnamed random one? Come on, this isn't even a question.

(In honesty, though, I say it depends on the circumstances - a bolter is a bolter, and if Yarrick can snap off a few shots before the Marine has time to react, then that's that. In melee, I could see it going either way, with Yarrick's power claw vs the Marine's augmented strength.)

the powerklaw is far more powerful than a marines augmented strength.

Yarrick is half-machine, half insanely experienced veteran. He wields a stormbolter one handed has a power-armor piercing laser eye and an incredibly powerful forcefield that would make a Crux Terminatus look weak.

 Ascalam wrote:
Of course the flipside is true too.

The space marine grows taller and more unkillable/badass/bad fanfic uber the more SM fanboys are in the vicinity. Ultimate Warriors? Unless that's a new Chapter i don't know about, it's IOM PR. They're good, but there are better out there

He's not talking about fanboi-ness.

The Ork psyche stuff works on a system of belief. The harder they believe something, the more true it becomes. They believe Yarrick is invicible, so he kinda is. It's like there weapons. When examined by Techpriests, they are found to be completely and utterly unfunctional, but if you take it and put it into an orks hand, he knows it's supposed to work, so it does.

This is like asking if a flyweight champion could beat up a heavyweight...not even a heavyweight champion

The answer is no.

 djones520 wrote:

 Ascalam wrote:
Of course the flipside is true too.

The space marine grows taller and more unkillable/badass/bad fanfic uber the more SM fanboys are in the vicinity. Ultimate Warriors? Unless that's a new Chapter i don't know about, it's IOM PR. They're good, but there are better out there

He's not talking about fanboi-ness.

The Ork psyche stuff works on a system of belief. The harder they believe something, the more true it becomes. They believe Yarrick is invicible, so he kinda is. It's like there weapons. When examined by Techpriests, they are found to be completely and utterly unfunctional, but if you take it and put it into an orks hand, he knows it's supposed to work, so it does.

I


I'm aware of that. I've been playing orks a long long time

I was joking about the power, abilities and height of a SM being defined by the number of SM fans in the area, until they become indestructible win button heroes...

The ork gestalt field doesn't make Yarrick unkillable, but it might well help some. Not all ork tech is unusable by non orks, though. There are fluff instances of ork tech working in human hands.

Yarrick wins easily, he has far superior plot armour.

Yarrick has a hellpistol for an eye, he'll be fine.

Yarrick could pulp a Marine without trying very hard in melee, his power field and Klaw are just that good, plus he can core the marine's brain out with his hellpistol eye. At range his stormbolter beats out a marine's regular bolter and carapace armor+shielding is plenty good enough against regular bolters, and again, LASER EYE.

I'd say that Yarrick could actually kill several marines, Spikey or Loyal, in melee. At once. A backhand from the klaw should kill plenty at a time.

Yarrick.

No contest really.

Aye, Yarrick. He's got at least as much experience as your "average" marine, and his equipment is a whole lot better. Marine HQs and other heroes is where Yarrick will have to start working very hard just in order to stay alive.

Yarrick and Uriah Jacobus need to make a buddy cop movie.

Somebody get Deffdread to draw up a poster for that!

Yarrick would win due to MUCH thicker plot armour.

Batman.


...*sigh* ok, fine. It's a tough call really, and largely rests on the circumstances. If we assume Yarrick still has the claw, eye and stormbolter, then we have to assume the Marine has power armour, bolter and bolt pistol. For starters, in the fluff stormbolters and Yarrick's eye wouldn't do bugger all against the power armour before the Marine would be able to close, so we can ignore those. In return, the bolter round might well get blocked by Yarrick's armour but there's going to be collateral damage to his limbs and possibly head - it's all exposed after all. So in a firefight, the Marine wins.

In close combat, Yarrick wins thanks to that klaw. Sure, it's slow and clumsy (klumsy?) but he's had it strapped to him for *years*, it's not a pick-up and put-down weapon like an ordinary power fist is, even with training. This thing *IS NOW HIS ARM*, he's going to hit the Marine with it. I think we have to assume that the Marine isn't going to hurt Yarrick enough to stop him before he does. An ordinary man easily, but not Yarrick who shrugs off punches like dust motes.

I do think it a bit harsh that *the* Commissar to end all Commissars is expected to fight a standard Marine, however. The Marine will be physically in better shape and likely free from long-term injuries. Surely a better fit would be putting him up against Chaplain Cassius? He's old and bionicised too.