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Not sure if anyone can predict what will happen to GW after Tom Kirby is done with it, but here you are:

anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:GW wants to limit coming Finecast releases. In the future, there will be only Characters and re-casts in Resin released

No new Finecast releases after 2016

Sounds like a total suicidal idea, but could sound reasonable to GW management.

So...plastic for everything else then?

PLEASE BE TRUE PLEASE BE TRUE

so in three years, what will everyone complain about instead?

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
so in three years, what will everyone complain about instead?

Prices, Matt Ward, poor sculpting

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
so in three years, what will everyone complain about instead?

Prices.

But seriously, this plan would require GW to make A LOT of new kits. On the other hand, maybe that means I'll finally get multipart plastic Striking Scorpions, Howling Banshees, and Vespid Stingwings.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
so in three years, what will everyone complain about instead?

That the plastic character packs will be three timss as expensive as the previous finecrud (cus they will you know lol).

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
so in three years, what will everyone complain about instead?

So people aren't allowed to complain about sub standard goods being sold for a premium price? Because that's the only issue I've ever heard about Finecast.



OT I'm not sure how I feel about this, as I like working with resin, assuming its well cast, more than plastic, but I guess it is inevitable to the point where the only question in this rumour is the timescale. On balance, I welcome our eventual new plastic overlords! There's plenty of other mini makers doing great work if they stuff it up.

Yup, likelly they are moving to full plastics. Failcost must really have bombed for them.

xxvaderxx wrote:
Yup, likelly they are moving to full plastics. Failcost must really have bombed for them.

Stupid hackneyed name for their material aside, I'm pretty sure it's been common reasoning that they wanted to move everything to plastic in the next couple years.

And what exactly is "suicidal" about only doing characters in resin? As we've seen with the last few releases, there hasn't been a new multi-model unit in Finecast in some time, just characters and bitz packs.

 Brother SRM wrote:
And what exactly is "suicidal" about only doing characters in resin?

That there will be no characters anymore after 2016, except the few in plastic.

Chaos got some unit in finecast didn't they?

I would like to see Finecast gone, just as I would like to see GW's flag torn down from their castle of money and nerd tears as artillery shells sail down upon them.

It's going to be placed by finercast, of course, because we can't have nice things.

ITT poor reading comprehension.

The OP says no more new releases in Finacast, not that they'd redo all existing models in plastic.

Not really all that controversial, given that the last few releases were already Finecast-free apart from HQs.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:
And what exactly is "suicidal" about only doing characters in resin?

That there will be no characters anymore after 2016, except the few in plastic.

There's been more plastic characters than finecast characters over the past year, hasn't there? At worst it would be close to 50/50.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:
And what exactly is "suicidal" about only doing characters in resin?

That there will be no characters anymore after 2016, except the few in plastic.

I think you are reading more into it then is said there.

I think the only saving grace about finecast, was that its composition being a plastic/resin hybrid could allow some reshaping with hot water if needed. I am pretty sure a lot would agree the failures of the guaranteed miscasts overshadowed this positive quality. Glad to hear this is happening soon.

This will only be a good thing if certain "mandatory" kits are produced that allow kitbashes for WYSIWYG modelling.

EVERY non named HQ model needs to have a multipart generic kit done in plastic a la the Space Marine Commander kit.

Every option needs to be included unless said options are abundant in other kits(I don't think any SM players have a shortage of spare bolters).

I'm 100% all for a full plastic range, as GW hasn't done anything spectacular with their little resin stop gap. Many of their sculpts are flimsy in finecast, and can only really shine in plastic or metal.

Point in case: Vilitch.


That sword is atrociously small detail for such a soft material as finecast. Normal resin would have been fine, but this piece needs to be done in plastic or metal IMO.

I'm fine with SC's being metal, as you'll only ever need 1 of them, so pinning them and dealing with the drawbacks of metal is a minor issue.

These current plastic monopose models are nicely done, but in almost every case swapping parts is nearly impossible because of stupid fitment issues and model design. The classic breakdown works just fine and allows for infinite customization: head, torso, arms, legs, accessories.

Wasn't there 'speak' that finecast was a transitional product from the onset until they had enough turnover in product redesigns to make everything plastic? I mean almost everything but characters are ending up plastic anyways, and some characters are plastic kits.

In 3 Full years, that is almost a army refresh for every single codex which means that they won't need to make anything new BUT characters.

This sounds totally reasonable, and even smart if they can get to 100% plastics (or super close to it)

"No new Finecast releases after 2016" means, no new non-plastic characters, at best old ones in Finecast are still available.

Also no new rare/elite units in finecast. What will that mean for Eldar with their abundance of elite units? What will that mean for Fantasy armies not yet transformed into plastic, like Dark Elves, since Fantasy sales are so low? Will they get badly lumped together multikits like the Skaven catapult or the High Elf archers? Will Sororitas never get a cool character?

There was a reason why there were plastic troops and metal characters and rare units some years ago. Metal was economic for low runs. So no more low run models in the future if this rumour is true.

But then again, if GW needs to double prices each year to keep revenue flat, they may not be in a position to produce anything but plastic in 2016

This is what we were hearing, finecast was simply a filler for the old metal molds while they make new ones.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Also no new rare/elite units in finecast. What will that mean for Eldar with their abundance of elite units?

You say this like it's some earth-shattering change. How many new Finecast elites did Eldar get last month?

 VermGho5t wrote:
I think the only saving grace about finecast, was that its composition being a plastic/resin hybrid could allow some reshaping with hot water if needed.

That quality was the only reason it needed reshaping with hot water, so no, that is not a saving grace of the material.

I would consider this a good thing.. Finecast is simply too inconsistent in its quality (or lack thereof), often too fragile for the fine detail on the models on which it is used, and it is far too expensive for the often low quality. GW has a premium product in its highly detailed polystyrene kits and they should make everything in that material, especially given the current price structure.

Errr...obligatory this is great news!

No really, in 3 to 4 years we can just talk about new releases (with only the occasional FC reminiscence ).

I'm all for more GW plastic characters.

Take a look at the new SM release, three plastic characters and no new Finecast in sight (if you assume the four new Captains to be part of the Apocalypse release). I expect GW are planning to get some idea of how such a release will be received.

By the sound of things what's in Finecast as of 2016 will remain in Finecast, and any new stuff after that will automatically be plastic (they're already preparing the ground with the monopose plastic HQs, traditionally done in resin or metal). It's not as though all resin kits will go in the bin, but then again, three years is plenty of time to start swapping some of them to plastic as well. Seems like good news to me.

And the plastic mono-pose are starting to get more dynamic, with flowing ribbons and cloaks that we tended to see on finecast before- compare the new Chaplain model with the Dark Apostle.

overtyrant wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
so in three years, what will everyone complain about instead?

That the plastic character packs will be three timss as expensive as the previous finecrud (cus they will you know lol).

the new plastic demons that replaced the finecast went down in price. I dont know if other packs did but theres certainly presedent for a price drop.

I heard that GW will stop producing any kind of infantry sized models after 2016 and will only produce action figure sized models and Thunderhawks with spring loaded missiles.

I'm entirely happy with moving forward without finecast, as would anyone who has had to try to work with DE Lilith or any modle that has broken would be.

I find it odd that people are excited by this. OK, sure, some people hate Finecast, some hate resin of any kind, but think about how many really fantastic GW figs would never have been made if the range was plastic-only.

Plastic moulds cost a fortune; they're great for large-run stuff because the casting process is more economical, but it's just not feasible to do anything else, the only result of which will be no new niche models.

Not only that, but the newer plastic characters figures are a colossal pain to convert because of the way they chop up the digital sculpture to get the most efficient sprue layout and to accommodate all the flow-y cloaks and fancy poses in a medium that doesn't allow for undercuts.

Crikey I hope Kirby buggers off and we get someone in who's willing to push the company in a more creative and sustainable direction, or they'll be selling mono-pose prepaints before long.