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Hello lads'n'ladies.
I am constructing a CSM army and I wanted give them weapons from other factions but which have equal statistics to them.

And now my question is there a chart with all weapons statistics all together ? Or I have to look into every single codex.

This is a little vague. Do you mean swapping a Chaos plasma gun for a loyalist one, or more like finding a way to fit in a DE agonizer?

And there is a list of all the weapons in the game in the back of the rulebook, but it is only in alphabetical order, so you'd have to root around.

Yeah, not sure what you mean by this, can you explain?

Well in longer form I wanted to give my csm's some Xeno weapons which have exact same statistics as, bolt guns, bolt pistols, plazma weapons, flamers and so on.

I am quite new to hobby so I don't know some of the weapons.

Well in that case, the big thing to keep in mind is consistency. Weapon swaps and conversions are fine, but when you put them on the table and say what is what, your opponent should know what things represent bolters, what represent plasma weapons and so on.

The way I'd do something like this is pick one xenos weapon to be your 'bolter' and use that one for it exclusively. That way, when you set the army out, you can say 'okay the guys armed with this all have bolters' and opponents can identify it. Same goes for all your other weapons.

That is why I wanted to give them weapons which have weapons exactly like bolters so there would be no difference at all.

In that case, I reiterate what I said earlier; in the back of the rulebook is a list of all the units and weapons in the game as of the release of 6th ed.

thanks.

You're probably going to have a hard time doing that. There aren't a whole lot of "equal" weapons in the game anymore.

Would probably be easier to just tell your opponent that everything "counts as" a bolter, but you wanted to have some fun with the modeling.

Damn, I have only third edition codex at hand ( to which I wasnt refering) well I looked into the gaping maw of the new codex and I seen that mess. Well thanks for help, besides attaching necron gauss gun, wont be that hard. On other hand it wont work lorewise.

Are you looking for weapons that have the same profile (including type), or just weapons with the same range/strength/AP?

I am looking for as simillar weapons possible in any way.

I have few in my bitz and I dont know their names/stats I will submit photo with them for indentification. I will upload them here.

Well I don't think it'd work out that well for the most part, since most weapons are in the style of the weilder. For example the Kroot rifle has the same stats as a bolter, but would look silly in the hands of a marine.

 Savageconvoy wrote:
Well I don't think it'd work out that well for the most part, since most weapons are in the style of the weilder. For example the Kroot rifle has the same stats as a bolter, but would look silly in the hands of a marine.

But not in the hands of an Ork. He will krump you good with dat fing if yous laughs.

My csm's theme is use what ever you can find. Epsecialy that they are actualy converted ultramarines.

Also for example, he could run out of bolts, so he took kroot rifle lying around.

The problem is that you would end up with different models doing counts as for one type of weapon and that is totaly against WYSIWYG.

It would be fine for friendly games, but could be confusing and look very odd.

For example, Eldar weapons (i think Fire Dragons have identical flamers to marine ones, and fusion guns are very similar to meltas) would look too small in marine hands.

Fusion Guns are Melta Guns. The Dragon's Breath Flamer (an upgrade for the FD Exarch) is a Heavy Flamers. Shuriken Pistols are Bolt Pistols (now with pseudo-rending), and Shuriken Catapults are short range Storm Bolters (also with pseudo-rending). Eldar Missile Launchers have Krak missiles and plasma missiles (which are slightly better than Frag). Our Flamers are the same.

Thanks mister eldar.
If it will look utterly bad I will just scrap all of that idea.

I think it is worth to mention that I am not interested in tournaments at all.

tournaments or not, I think most opponents would be very annoyed with your army. They wouldn't be able to keep stuff straight, and you probably wouldn't be able to do it either.

One or two counts-as in this fashion would be fine. IE: One squad picked up a Fusion Gun when their Melta-gun ran dry, that other squad is using a jury-rigged ork burna as a flamer, etc...

But to have every single weapon your guys carry be a counts-as with no consistency is a bad idea.

I am not going to give my every single guy xeno weapons, just few occasional.

But what about nids bits as chaos mutations?