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I am opening this thread to post my list and it will eventually be the place I post the Nova Open Tournament Report. In addition, you all can vote to see how you think I will do in the tournament. Take note I am also playing in the Nova Invitational with a separate army. Should be quite the gauntlet.

The Army I will be using for the Open:

IG/SW:
HQ:
CCS 4x melta; Chimera ML/HF

Troops:
Vet Squad 3x plasma; Chimera ML/HF
Vet Squad 3x plasma; Chimera ML/HF
Infantry Platoon
PCS 4x Flamer
Inf Squad
Inf Squad

Fast:
Vendetta
Vendetta
Hellhound Hull HF

Heavy:
2x Hydra Flak Tank Hull HB
Demolisher Tank Hull HB
Manticore Rocket Launcher Hull HF

Allies:
Rune Priest in Terminator Armor w/ Melta Bombs

Troops:
5 Grey Hunters 1 Plasma

Heavy:
6 Long Fangs 5x Missile Launchers

Before I vote, how much have you practiced NOVA format missions with this list?

 hyv3mynd wrote:
Before I vote, how much have you practiced NOVA format missions with this list?

I usually only ever play multiple missions. I actually play in GT's more then I play regular games do to my line of work. You can view some of my previous reports in my profile.

Don't run into me. I'll make you cry

Looking forward to seeing this weekend buddy!

 Hulksmash wrote:
Don't run into me. I'll make you cry

Looking forward to seeing this weekend buddy!

Likewise. I am already at the Hyatt with the wife. Just killing the days sight seeing . Cant wait til thursday. As for the crying part... I have had a lot of resiliency training lately(to include the last 2 weeks living out of a backpack enjoying the elements) so we will see.

Good luck with the 56th.

I predict 6-2.

At first I wasn't too floored with the list, but then it occurred to me that this might be a list to go against the meta. With the hydras you have something against flying MCs and flyers. Also, without FW there are not that many anti-flyer units in the game so flyer/FMC spam is probably going to be seen frequently at NOVA.

The manticore is an anti-tau unit. Prescience from the rune priest will also help the big splatter shots to land on target. And the vendettas are good for most things, but will be helpful against wraith knights and riptides.

I would guess that AV 14 spam will probably be a hard nut to crack if you run into it. You're a good general though, so I picked 6-2.

Good luck.

jy2 wrote:Good luck with the 56th.

I predict 6-2.

The 56th has only ever lost more then 1 match at a GT once. That was back when daemons where broken and I lost to a pink horror who made over 6, 4+ saves on final turn.

bogalubov wrote:At first I wasn't too floored with the list, but then it occurred to me that this might be a list to go against the meta. With the hydras you have something against flying MCs and flyers. Also, without FW there are not that many anti-flyer units in the game so flyer/FMC spam is probably going to be seen frequently at NOVA.

The manticore is an anti-tau unit. Prescience from the rune priest will also help the big splatter shots to land on target. And the vendettas are good for most things, but will be helpful against wraith knights and riptides.

I would guess that AV 14 spam will probably be a hard nut to crack if you run into it. You're a good general though, so I picked 6-2.

Good luck.

It is kind of my niche to play with strong but sometimes unorthodox list. Hell i won the INDY Open with a 365pt Daemon Prince. Appreciate the support and we will see about AV14. Not as much scared about that then I am mass bodies. I got 2 S10 templates(one d3), 6 TL Las, and 4 Melta that will almost always be twin linked or mitigate cover.

I might be missing something, but if you plan to twin link the melta guns with orders the guys have to be outside the transport. Also the fire on my target order forces cover save re-rolls. It doesn't strip cover. But yeah, you have some answers for av 14.

bogalubov wrote:
I might be missing something, but if you plan to twin link the melta guns with orders the guys have to be outside the transport. Also the fire on my target order forces cover save re-rolls. It doesn't strip cover. But yeah, you have some answers for av 14.

It doesn't if used on themselves I don't believe.

 Red Corsair wrote:

bogalubov wrote:
I might be missing something, but if you plan to twin link the melta guns with orders the guys have to be outside the transport. Also the fire on my target order forces cover save re-rolls. It doesn't strip cover. But yeah, you have some answers for av 14.

It doesn't if used on themselves I don't believe.

Unless it is specified in the faq, the codex says that orders cannot be issued to units embarked in a transport. You can issue orders out of the chimera, but not to embarked squads.

bogalubov wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

bogalubov wrote:
I might be missing something, but if you plan to twin link the melta guns with orders the guys have to be outside the transport. Also the fire on my target order forces cover save re-rolls. It doesn't strip cover. But yeah, you have some answers for av 14.

It doesn't if used on themselves I don't believe.

Unless it is specified in the faq, the codex says that orders cannot be issued to units embarked in a transport. You can issue orders out of the chimera, but not to embarked squads.

I thought it was FAQ'd.

It was not.

 pretre wrote:
It was not.

OK thanks, haven't played my guard in years and it showing

Yea they have always had to disembark. Had this come up in one of my games before where an opponent tried to issue one to the squad inside and i pointed out that you couldnt unless it had been faq'd otherwise. I know its silly that you cant order your own squad around inside a vehicle even though psychic powers can be cast on a unit inside if the psyker is with them.

How many points is this played at? Its a rather different form of guard but Ive seen lists like this come up a lot recently, The hydras are the only questionable units that I really see in the list. As Ive seen your previous reports you do vary well so I would claim 7-1.

And sorry Im not familiar with gt's, never looked up where to find them or how they are played, most I know is that they use multiple missions.

I don't get the wolves. What are they adding to the army? I guess rockets with rerolls, not the worst thing I guess.

 BigJP wrote:
I don't get the wolves. What are they adding to the army? I guess rockets with rerolls, not the worst thing I guess.

Psychic defense and prescience. Twin linked manticores are nice.

bogalubov wrote:

 BigJP wrote:
I don't get the wolves. What are they adding to the army? I guess rockets with rerolls, not the worst thing I guess.

Psychic defense and prescience. Twin linked manticores are nice.

QFT!


As for the comment about hydra's. They are great against flyers. They are also great against skimmers. Eldar and Tau have only skimmers available as far as vehicles go. So most vehicles in the meta can be shot with my normal ballistic skill and ignore cover saves from jink.

 Tomb King wrote:

bogalubov wrote:

 BigJP wrote:
I don't get the wolves. What are they adding to the army? I guess rockets with rerolls, not the worst thing I guess.

Psychic defense and prescience. Twin linked manticores are nice.

QFT!


As for the comment about hydra's. They are great against flyers. They are also great against skimmers. Eldar and Tau have only skimmers available as far as vehicles go. So most vehicles in the meta can be shot with my normal ballistic skill and ignore cover saves from jink.

Hydras have Skyfire, so wouldn't they still be snapfiring at skimmers?

 Talore wrote:

 Tomb King wrote:

bogalubov wrote:

 BigJP wrote:
I don't get the wolves. What are they adding to the army? I guess rockets with rerolls, not the worst thing I guess.

Psychic defense and prescience. Twin linked manticores are nice.

QFT!


As for the comment about hydra's. They are great against flyers. They are also great against skimmers. Eldar and Tau have only skimmers available as far as vehicles go. So most vehicles in the meta can be shot with my normal ballistic skill and ignore cover saves from jink.

Hydras have Skyfire, so wouldn't they still be snapfiring at skimmers?

Read Skyfire..

They can choose whether or not to fire at target in the sky right?

Huh, didn't know that. I guess that makes Hydras a bit better what with Eldar Wave Skimmer spam the new FOTM.

 Robbo97 wrote:
They can choose whether or not to fire at target in the sky right?

They can only snapfire ground targets, however, skimmers are mentioned as one of the valid targets for skyfire.

And FMCs. Hydras are really good in the developing meta between skimmers, daemons, and drakes. Ignoring jink saves takes away half the survivability of serpents too.

Sorry for the very late delay on this. I have feast of blades this weekend to add to that delay. I will eventually get it done but I will at least give you this. I ended 4-2 on the event and dropped to focus on the Invitational where I had made the final 4 and was still undefeated.