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**Thaylen**

Can anyone with the new codex tell me if you can still take both a bike and artificer armor?

**Skriker**

stargasm wrote:
Just noticed in this months WD some bloke in the kit bash section has kitted his tacticals out with a Heavy Flamer! are HFs going to be mor ewidely available now?

Silly as it is I really like the concept of heavy flamers and seeing them more readily usable would make me a happy camper.

Edit: Bummer to read shortly after in the thread that this is not to be the case. :(

Skriker

**davou**

Bike Squads are broken now regarding combat squads. They forgot to put in the bit about attack bikes counting as 2 bikes

Ah nevermind, they stuck it in a different section from where I was hunting.

**NickTheButcher**

My FLGS just posted that GW sent an e-mail allowing all Space Marine release products to be sold starting today. I now have the Codex in my hands!

Time to make some lists!

EDIT: It appears that this is due to the new product line going live on GW website

**zasz**

Looking at chapter relics you can take one weapon per model.

A model may replace one weapon with one of the following.

**dkellyj**

Thaylen wrote:
Can anyone with the new codex tell me if you can still take both a bike and artificer armor?

It looks like the generic CM and Captain can take Artificer AND a Bike. That then unlocks Bike squads of at least 5 models as Troops (ALL bike squads of 5 + models, not just 1 as the rumors were saying).

**MasterSlowPoke**

Where is the Stormtalon rule "Strafing Run" defined? I can't find it.

**Ascalam**

Main rulebook

Pg 42

**Ferrum_Sanguinis**

**Thaylen**

Vanilla marines never had access to divination to start with.

**Ferrum_Sanguinis**

Thaylen wrote:
Vanilla marines never had access to divination to start with.

Wow ur right, nevermind then.

**nobody**

Tigurius has access to Divination now.

**BlackSanguinor**

Tigurius is a beast

, although a bit squishy

**NickTheButcher**

zasz wrote:
Looking at chapter relics you can take one weapon per model.

A model may replace one weapon with one of the following.

The Dark Angel codex is the same way.

**Senortaco**

Has There been any price changes to SCs??

**MajorWesJanson**

Senortaco wrote:
Has There been any price changes to SCs??

Yes. Calgar and Lysander went up quite a bit.
Khan and Moondrakken went down a lot.
Tiggy went down a ton.
Most the rest stayed the same or only moved 5-10 points.

**Senortaco**

Thanks!

**RiTides**

Am I missing something, or can tactical squads take a drop pod with less than 10 models now??

It seems like they can, and if so, that makes me very happy

**Veteran Sergeant**

No mention of any limitations to dedicated transports based on model count.

**RiTides**

Woot, thought so

. Sweet!

**Drakka77**

What's this new auspex thing suppose to do?

**Henshini**

Reduces a unit's cover by 1 within 12" for a phase.

**Ravenous D**

Little pissed about the false advertising on the army builder for the iPad version, as it is not even there.

**dienekes96**

It will be. They are presumably getting it right.

**centuryslayer**

flipping through the rulebook, Am I wrong when it looks like only scouts can take the hellfire shells for the HB?

would be awesome devestators could take them and blow the living carp out of Nids >

**sennacherib**

Flinty wrote:
tyrannosaurus wrote:
My worry is that more and more people will get priced out of this hobby, in particular at the entry level, which has to be a bad thing. £140 for a starter army [before spending money on the codex, paints, brushes, glue etc.] compared to £30ish for a computer game, I know which I would choose [if I hadn't already been given the hobby bug when I was a kid myself]. Plus, it doesn't really give people the option of trying out the game to see if they like it.

You are forgetting the £400 for a console or the £700+ for a decent gaming PC. I would think that 40k stacks up quite well against almost any other hobby or sport.

Um .... NO.!
You can buy about 10 of the top board games out there for the price of one very entry level 40k army. Teach all of your freinds and play endless varied games. Not just one game with limited player base (due to price, complexity etc).
You can take up fishing. Quite a bit cheaper.
etc. etc.

There are inumerable hobbies that are cheaper than 40k.

**Martel732**

No, Starcraft is way cheaper than 40K. And it's made by devs that give a feth about the game's balance.

**Corrode**

Martel732 wrote:
No, Starcraft is way cheaper than 40K. And it's made by devs that give a feth about the game's balance.

It's a good job you can just buy SC2 on its own and don't need anything to run it on then, or your terrible comparison might not work!

**Martel732**

I can build a PC to run SC2 for 400 USD. You can't build an army of anything in 40K for 460 USD. As a game, SC2 is so far ahead of 40K it's disgusting.

**Nevelon**

centuryslayer wrote:
flipping through the rulebook, Am I wrong when it looks like only scouts can take the hellfire shells for the HB?

would be awesome devestators could take them and blow the living carp out of Nids >

What really sucks about this is the new HB in the sternguard box. If anyone else was going to get it, it should have been them! Is it wrong that I'm kinda hopeing for a UM supplement, so I get get rules for Tyranid war vets, who get this?

oh well...