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2013/09/26 00:05:18
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors .Newsletter #363 Kakophoni and The Ashen Circle page 13.
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
= Epic First Post.
2013/09/26 02:42:36
Subject: Re:Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors .Newsletter #363 Kakophoni and The Ashen Circle page 13.
On the one hand, I sort of want the Fire Raptor more than any other Forgeworld model ever.
On the other hand, I saw that Storm Eagle build walkthrough on here. I can't do what he did, not at all. I can't come close. And I don't have $152 to spend on a model that is going to look like garbage after I assemble it.
welp that post just completely turned me off from ever buying a storm eagle
I'm sorry about that, but it's probably better you know the truth while your credit card is safely in your wallet. The regret you feel, I know that feeling intimately as my heart sank, reading post after post.
yeah that entire thread is just nuts, I'm more then happy to pay forgeworld pricing for a sexy model, but I shouldnt need to have a personal forge in my house to put the damn thing together, to date I've avoided ordering large models from forgeworld as I've always been scared that it would be just like that guy lays it out. I'm more then able to deal with some problems on the smaller models but I'm not interested in having to go nuts to get a tank sized kit together.
From what I've read and seen, alot of other FW kits of that size aren't nearly as hard to put together. The Caestus Assault Ram is actually pretty straight foreword. The level of effort that goes into a Storm egal is comparable to a Thunderhawk...
Well plastic combo kits have made some FW kits easier to put together, it has had some sort of bizzaro effect on the Storm Raven!
O___o
Also on the topic of hard to put together forgeworld kits. Apparently the land raider's proteus andSpartan aren't a walk in the park either. Straightening out the tracks is apparently a paint in the ass.
Putting together a LR armoured proteus certainly isn't a cakewalk. The hardest part isn't the tracks (since it comes in sections rather than individual treads) it is getting the top and bottom sections (along with the engine block) to line up with the sides so it doesn't end up looking wonky from a front perspective (so that the entire tank is level rather than skewed to one side). That said it takes no longer to put together than any of their other resin-plastic hybrid kit (like the Achilles).
I would really like to see the pod-design on more SM vehicles, that said it's disappointing to see another dakka-ship and nothing really useful, like anti-tank weaponry. That said I am a massive fan of the Deimos Vindicator.
Also has anyone else noticed that the Kakophoni have some cloth tied around their forearms with a belt of some sort. I think I can see the right arm being tied to the weapon (how this managed to support the weapon in any way is beyond me) but doesn't really serve a purpose on the left arm. Very pedantic but why the cloth and leather belt over *power armour*. It's not a flourish like a tabard or robes so...any ideas?
just hangin' out, hangin' out
2013/09/26 04:58:21
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors .Newsletter #363 Kakophoni and The Ashen Circle page 13.
Brother Paen wrote: Stormraven , a For Sale sign and some screen shots is all it takes...and some weapon bits. Look in my gallery here on dakka. It can be done.
Or the Chapterhouse extension kit goes a long way in helping convert the Raven to an Eagle. Although I wouldn't consider the Chapterhouse kit an easy one as there are some sizing issues with the new panels that require careful trimming and filling. I have two kits on order to go with the two already built so I might build those as the new gunship...
Yes the Eagle is an advanced kit, mostly because of the way the master was cast and the poor state of FW casting these days but I really wouldn't let that put you off if you really want one. That guy is an amazingly high quality modeler and you don't have to work at the same level and probably don't with the kits you've bit in the past. If you have a good collection of mini clamps and braces. I usually soak the panels in hot water, then lay them on flat board and either lay something heavy on top of them or clamp them. This gets you about 90% of the way there then you can get the hull together and then straighten them the final 10% as its being glued. This will work with any FW resin that isn't too thick or has bracing sections on it (doesn't work too well on the top piece for the Thunderhawk).
2013/09/26 06:06:36
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors .Newsletter #363 Kakophoni and The Ashen Circle page 13.
Can't wait to see what else FW shows off at the upcoming Gamesday! I hope they's sell a version of the Vindicator with the Laser Destroyer array upgrade!
If I'm right, then tomorrow's newsletter will be the Legion Kharibydis (spelling?) assault claw. IIRC, that's the only model shown at the Horus Heresy weekender that hasn't been released yet.
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2013/09/26 17:17:22
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors. Newsletter #364 Fire Raptor, Vindicator and NL. Page 14.
The Fire Raptor is a specialised variant of the Storm Eagle known to have its origins in the Imperium’s dim and distant past. The vehicle is configured to maximise ammunition stowage in order to feed the voracious appetite of its numerous weapons and this is achieved by sacrificing the Storm Eagle’s transport capacity.
Designed by Stuart Williamson, the Fire Raptor will be available as a pre-release at Games Day UK in limited quantities.
A powerful assault tank, the Vindicator's principal armament is a heavy-calibre demolisher cannon capable of shattering fortifications and breaching the armour plates of tanks with equal ease.
Designed by Phil Stutcinskas, the Deimos Vindicator will be available as a pre-release at Games Day UK in limited quantities.
Even when the Night Lords were counted loyal, their nature and actions were ever questioned. Some argued that they were simply a function of necessity, the monsters needed to drag a barbaric age into the light. Some say that they were a mistake, a misjudgment compounded by circumstance. A few wonder if they were damned from the moment they were born, that they were destined never to be a part of the future they would help create. All such speculation is ultimately pointless; no matter the cause, they are creatures of horror and always were.
For this fallen Legion, we have created sets of doors for the Mk IIB Land Raider and Rhino. Designed by Steve Whitehead, these resin accessories are ideal for adding Night Lords iconography to your tanks and they are available to pre-order now for despatch from Monday 30th September. A limited quantity of these kits will be available at Games Day UK.
Games Day UK Forge World will be attending UK Games Day, held on Sunday 29th September at the NIA in Birmingham. The head of Forge World Tony Cottrell and writer Alan Bligh will be holding two seminars during the day, and Games Day attendees can pick up free tickets for these seminars at the Forge World Designers stand on the day. The first seminar begins at 11:30am and the second seminar is at 2:15pm – both seminars will contain the same presentation.
-Shrike- wrote: If I'm right, then tomorrow's newsletter will be the Legion Kharibydis (spelling?) assault claw. IIRC, that's the only model shown at the Horus Heresy weekender that hasn't been released yet.
Well, unless they had production issues, but other than that, it would make sense. Still, I hope it is- the Kharibydis looked awesome!
ChargerIIC wrote: If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
2013/09/26 17:19:40
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors. Newsletter #364 Fire Raptor, Vindicator and NL. Page 14.
Ehsteve wrote:Also has anyone else noticed that the Kakophoni have some cloth tied around their forearms with a belt of some sort. I think I can see the right arm being tied to the weapon (how this managed to support the weapon in any way is beyond me) but doesn't really serve a purpose on the left arm. Very pedantic but why the cloth and leather belt over *power armour*. It's not a flourish like a tabard or robes so...any ideas?
Lexicanum wrote: 'Marius had fixed wraps of skin from the Maraviglia dead to his armour with spikes'
Judging by the entry on Lexicanum for Marius Vairosean, Captain of the Emperor's Children 3rd Company, following the performance of the Maraviglia in which daemonically possessed/chaotically tainted instruments were used, the Marines present took up the instruments after the performers had orgy-ed themselves to death becoming the first Noise Marines - who were dubbed the Kakaphoni. Hence, I'm guessing the item in question is skin from the performers. Lexicanum gives the citation of 'The Reflection Crack'd' as the source of this info.
EDIT: I should probably ask as well: Any News on when we'll see some new Salamanders stuff? I'm holding out for them, but the Mk III Armour (And pretty much all of the rest of FW) is winking at me...
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The Fire Raptor is sweet looking. Hopefully it will fall into the FA slot and not the Heavy slot, not that I am in any big hurry to get one. My bank account next month is going to kick my ass from all the NL stuff I plan on getting.
If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM!
2013/09/27 17:28:02
Subject: Re:Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors. Newsletter #364 Fire Raptor, Vindicator and NL. Page 14.
Wow, I dont even like the Iron Hands, but those are pretty damn cool looking. The grumpy looking bald guy head is pretty characterful, I might have to go head hunting at a later date.
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If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM!
2013/09/27 17:32:43
Subject: Re:Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors. Newsletter #364 Fire Raptor, Vindicator and NL. Page 14.
Fugggg that is badass. Those are some great bionic parts too. Iron Hands (and Iron Warriors after they scrape off the iconography) players will be ecstatic. Hell I'm even going to buy one and I don't even play IH
Crikey! That's superb! I like the overall simplicity in the design of the overall fortification but then it's brimming with incidental little details such as access doors and windows and positions to place turret systems. No doubt it'll be pricey but it's very striking looking, I know I wouldn't mind one!
edit: Ahh £90. I should have known, going by the pricing of the other tiles at any rate
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2013/09/27 17:50:25
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors. . Page 14.
When the situation calls for a prolonged deployment, Space Marines can rapidly construct modular fortified structures, known as Castellum Strongholds, to use as forward operating bases on a planet’s surface.
Designed by Blake Spence, the Realm of Battle Space Marine Castellum Stronghold is a 24" x 24" (609 mm x 609 mm) tile which can fit the Citadel Realm of Battle board. The model features areas that can accommodate Tarantula Sentry turrets, and its design allows several boards to be put together, expanding the size of the base. The Castellum Stronghold will be available as a pre-release at Games Day UK in limited quantities.
Since the dark times of the Horus Heresy, in honour of their Primarch Ferrus Manus, the Iron Hands ritually replace their right hands with a mechanical augmentation; to them flesh has become symbolic of weakness and weakness is something that they will not tolerate.
Designed by Israel Gonzalez, Iron Hands Legion Squad the is a five man multi-part kit fitted out in Mk III Iron Armour that features many details such as cybernetic limbs, a nuncio-vox and an auspex. This kit will be available as a pre-release at Games Day UK in limited quantities.
As well as the Castellum Stronghold and Iron Hands Legion Squad, we also have a number of other pre-release products available to purchase at Games Day UK this Sunday: Ferrus Manus, the latest model in our Horus Heresy Character series, The Horus Heresy Book Two – Massacre, Erebus and Kor Phaeron, the Emperor's Children Legion Kakophoni, the Word Bearers Legion Ashen Circle, the Space Marine Fire Raptor, the Deimos Pattern Vindicator, the Giant River Troll Hag and the Tau XV107 R'varna Battlesuit. There will be a limited quantity of these pre-release products available on the day, so we suggest that you turn up early at our Sales stand to avoid disappointment
In preparation for the release of The Horus Heresy Book Two – Massacre, we have put up a series of videos in our Visual Feed about the book and the models which are featured inside it. In our latest video, designer Simon Egan talks about how he created the model of Ferrus Manus and how it can be incorporated with Fulgrim to form a stunning diorama.
You can also watch Edgar Skomorowski talking about Erebus and Kor Phaeron, our trailer for The Horus Heresy Book Two – Massacre as well as a video of writer Alan Bligh talking about what you can expect to find in this forthcoming book here .
If you would like to stay up to date with the Forge World Visual Feed of videos dedicated to our latest releases, simply select the Subscribe option in our YouTube channel. This will ensure you receive a notification every time we add new videos.
Click here to see our event exclusives, which include our 2013 Show Only models and two Horus Heresy profile posters
Forge World will be attending UK Games Day, held on Sunday 29th September at the NIA in Birmingham. The head of Forge World Tony Cottrell and writer Alan Bligh will be holding two seminars during the day, and Games Day attendees can pick up free tickets for these seminars at the Forge World Designers stand on the day. The first seminar begins at 11:30am and the second seminar is at 2:15pm – both seminars will contain the same presentation.
Also at our Designers stand will be two fantastic display tables: one depicting the Iron Hands surrounded on Isstvan V and the other showing the Imperial Fists boarding an Iron Warriors vessel.
Not sure if I like the space marine compound (kind of generic sci-fi without all that much of interest for play space), but those iron hands are gorgeous. They and Ferrus make me really interested in starting a little army of them. vEither that, or find something cool they could represent in my army.
edit: heh, I also like the pic with the dread on the wall, not sure how it got there...
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Those Iron Hands actually make the chapter look interesting! I like that fortress too, it's one of the few Imperium themed pieces of scenery I've seen that isn't covered in Gothic arches and skulls.
Oh fer...could they not even resist retconning which hand they replace with bionics? It's the left hand they replace with a bionic implant because the chapter symbol is a left handed gauntlet design.
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2013/09/27 21:14:13
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors. Newsletter#365 SM RoB and IH squad Page 15.