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Anyone got any idea what the following emblem represents? I got the badge in a box of replacement models from Forgeworld a couple of days ago, and haven't been able to ID it. The sunburst is similar to heresy era Thousand Sons, but the filled in centre and 3 minor flares per arc are significant differences. It seems vaguely familiar, but I just can't place it.

Maybe it's the badge that identifies you as a member of the secretive FW lodge.

It's the World Bearers apparently

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Word-Bearers-Forgeworld-Badge-pin-Limited-Games-Day-2013-Horus-Heresy-Massacre-/321220256303

I'm dubious of it being Word Bearers given the purple background and the fact it doesn't appear on any of the Word Bearer models that Forgeworld have just released.

That is the early eight arrowed star of chaos. On Colchis there were pagan cults that were later revived as unit markings and such during the Heresy. One of them was a Iron 4 pointed sun with a skull in the middle... that later grew a smaller point in the middles (for 8) and with that same sun burning through the skull is the 40k Word Bearer symbol.

If anyone has the HH books with them, that particular cult symbol is mentioned by name, I just don't have the book at hand

...the more you know

Horus Heresy Book Two: Massacre 70 GBP

Word of Horus’ treachery escapes Isstvan III and now the Legions loyal to the Emperor mobilise to make Horus and those who follow account for their crimes. However the depth of the betrayal is yet to be revealed.

The Horus Heresy Book Two - Massacre is lavishly illustrated in full colour and contains the dark deeds leading up to the terrible slaughter that unfolded during the Isstvan V Dropsite Massacre. Also detailed are the histories of the four legions that took part: The Iron Hands, Salamanders, Night Lords and Word Bearers, and an extensive campaign system so you can play out the battles on the tabletop. This book also contains additional entries for the Space Marine Legion Crusade Army list presented in The Horus Heresy Book One – Betrayal, as well as games rules for the Primarchs of the four newly described Legions, super-heavy vehicles and special characters featured in the story.

This book is available to pre-order now and will be despatched from Friday 18th October. More news on the Horus Heresy Book Two – Massacre can be found in the Forge World Visual Feed where we have writer Alan Bligh discussing what you can look forward to in the new book.

Erebus and Kor Phaeron 55 GBP

Erebus was once the high Chaplain of the Word Bearers and venerated the Emperor as a divine being. When the Emperor chastised the Word Bearers for worshipping him Erebus felt humiliated. His drive for spiritual knowledge led him into the arms of the ruinous powers and through their guidance he planned the downfall of the Emperor and all he had wrought.

Along with Erebus, Kor Phaeron has the ear of his Primarch and, more than any other individual, is responsible for Lorgar’s nature as a seeker after the truth, wherever that truth may lie and whatever terrible secrets it might reveal.

New additions to our Horus Heresy Character Series, Erebus and Kor Phaeron, designed by Edgar Skomorowski, are two multi-part resin kits with two scenic bases that can be incorporated into a scenic display base. This model is available to pre-order now and will be despatched from Friday 18th October. To see a video of Edgar talking about creating these infamous characters click here.

I've loved those models from the first moment I saw them but I can't help but feel some more decorations on the backpack would add character to them.

Legio Cybernetica have their own full list, it appears looking at the table of content preview.

Chrysis wrote:
Anyone got any idea what the following emblem represents? I got the badge in a box of replacement models from Forgeworld a couple of days ago, and haven't been able to ID it. The sunburst is similar to heresy era Thousand Sons, but the filled in centre and 3 minor flares per arc are significant differences. It seems vaguely familiar, but I just can't place it.

If you look at the few MK1 power armor miniatures the chest plate has the sunburst symbol. What I heard is that it's the pre-Imperial symbol of the Emperor, before he was the emperor.

If they sold Erebus seperately I would be getting him for Reclusiarch conversion fodder. Alas this is not the case.

Is that the symbol for the Serrated Sun?

Yes it is, the serrated sums are a word bearers chapter that were the first to be daemonically possesed, the sun does represent an early sigil of chaos hence the reason these guys are serrated suns. They later killed each other and there leader formed the vakra-jal (jade fire)

Anyone have any real experience with the various terminator sets?

I was wanting to make a forgeworld 10 man assault terminator squad but nothing seems viable that I could see. Thunder hammers but no storm shields, for example. That and there is only 2 claw pairs, so you cant arm all 5 as assault, legally anyhow.

 PredaKhaine wrote:
Doesn't 1 thunderwarrior beat the crap out of a load of marines in the outcast dead?

Yeah pretty much though he does get hurt himself.

 Compel wrote:
Anyone have any real experience with the various terminator sets?

I was wanting to make a forgeworld 10 man assault terminator squad but nothing seems viable that I could see. Thunder hammers but no storm shields, for example. That and there is only 2 claw pairs, so you cant arm all 5 as assault, legally anyhow.

cataphractii terminators are Slow and Purposefull with a ++4sv, over normal terminators in the HH rules. This is a free upgrade from normal terminators. Lack of Stormsheilds on these guys isn't as unviable as you might as 1st think. Also their are no Assault and tactical termies in the HH rules. They get to mix and match like CSM termies.

The preview up on the site has a full page spread shot of the Sallies rules.

Their special rite of war grants all vehicles a 5++, but they can't deepstrike anything and can only take as many heavy slots as they have troop choices.

So excited.

 Compel wrote:
Anyone have any real experience with the various terminator sets?

I was wanting to make a forgeworld 10 man assault terminator squad but nothing seems viable that I could see. Thunder hammers but no storm shields, for example. That and there is only 2 claw pairs, so you cant arm all 5 as assault, legally anyhow.

If you're aiming to run them as a standard codex marines assault termi squad for hammers/shields then using the hands from the new vanguard kit with thunder hammers and storm shields on the bodies/arms from the forgeworld terminators should work well, and likely cheaper than using forgeworld own hands.

Cheers, Lockark, but I'm more thinking about the actual models and using them as normal codex dudes.

I've got a ton of Cataphractii that I've built to have modular hands/arms. My assault terminators use the thunder hammer from the special weapons sprues magnetized and for the storm shield I got Paulson shields and used GK terminator hand to hold them which I also magnetized. to me they look excellent. You could also do something similar with the Tartaros though I haven't built mine yet so no experience there that I can share.

Chrysis wrote:
Anyone got any idea what the following emblem represents? I got the badge in a box of replacement models from Forgeworld a couple of days ago, and haven't been able to ID it. The sunburst is similar to heresy era Thousand Sons, but the filled in centre and 3 minor flares per arc are significant differences. It seems vaguely familiar, but I just can't place it.

I cant say....

It's gotta be T-sons

Anyone else seeing the pic of the Iron Hands Contemptor with the missilea, CCW and Siege Drill? Does that mean there's a siege drill arm coming out for the contemptor in the near (ish) future?

Check the preview up on the FW site.

There's a page with the title 'Serrated Suns' and a picture of a Thunderhawk with that symbol on the side.

The Dark Apostle and Ifurita called it a little earlier in the thread.

 Blacksails wrote:
Check the preview up on the FW site.

There's a page with the title 'Serrated Suns' and a picture of a Thunderhawk with that symbol on the side.

The Dark Apostle and Ifurita called it a little earlier in the thread.

This image:


It's tough to make out the symbol.

Madocyw wrote:
Anyone else seeing the pic of the Iron Hands Contemptor with the missilea, CCW and Siege Drill? Does that mean there's a siege drill arm coming out for the contemptor in the near (ish) future?

Probably so. When I built my Contemptor I used a FW dreadnought siege drill for the MkIV its immediately compatible, you just use the Contemptor's shoulder instead. That is just to say it's not at all difficult for FW to do a repackage or a new bit if they want.

Yeah, that picture confirms it as Serrated Suns. Which would also explain why it doesn't show on any models to date, as none of them have been clan specific. If they do models and a unit for the first possessed however...

I would love me some Gal Vorbak !

Spare a copper gov'na?

Meanwhile Dr Jekyl scrounges through the rubbish looking for a hat.

Chrysis wrote:
Anyone got any idea what the following emblem represents? I got the badge in a box of replacement models from Forgeworld a couple of days ago, and haven't been able to ID it. The sunburst is similar to heresy era Thousand Sons, but the filled in centre and 3 minor flares per arc are significant differences. It seems vaguely familiar, but I just can't place it.

that is the badge for the serrated suns or gal vorbak, the first deamonically possessed SMs. It would make sense as they are currently releasing the word bearers legion.

CSM players are gunna be emptying their wallets when FW release the possessed marine.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
What about the Tau R'varna?

Was thinking the same myself and found this on Tautactica (don't think anyone else has put anything on here regarding the XV107, so interesting for us Tau guys )-

gr1m_dan-
Just got back from Games Day in the UK (Apart from a couple of areas, it was rubbish, never going again) and spoke to the chap who has done the XV107 rules and got a few little tidbits from him.

It has:

Higher toughness value - he said one point higher so T7.

More wounds - Didn't say how many but I think 6.

Nova Reactor has different effects to the normal one BUT can still hurt itself.

Weapons - Submunition Cannons (Plasma I think he said) - the bigger the target it hits, the higher strength of the weapon. Two 5" blasts also I think, he said 5" blast but I forgot to ask if two or one but model would suggest two. He said it is great against all infantry but if it hits a tank then it REALLY excels due to "size" of target hit. Wasn't really clear but could be a winner.

Few weeks yet as they need to be play tested accordingly he said. Shouldn't be too long though as he was willing to give quite a bit away!

Not sure how the weapon will work :-S He just said "bigger targets take higher strength hits" so maybe it works on Infantry/MC/Vehicle etc etc??? He mentioned it would make a mess of light armour (like we needed help with that but hey). 60" Range for definite though.

100% no jump pack.

Didn't mention anything about it being Stealthy either. Just higher toughness and more wounds.

It will be interesting to see what the Nova Reactor does though!

EDIT :-

Sorry I couldn't get everything I was just listening to what he said. Should have asked a lot more Sad

I hope they make some conversion kits/new rules for different versions of Wraithknight as well.