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Hi guys

I have had a few games with the list below with Dark Eldar and I seem to be getting stomped by Imperial Guard and I'm unsure whether it's my list, my use of them or that my opponent has the perfect counter list.

Lelith Hesperax
4x blood brides w/haywire grenades
Venom w/cannon upg

3x mandrakes

6x wyches w/haywire grenades

10x kalabite w/blaster w/dark lance
Raider w/flickerfield + splinter rack

3x reavers w/blaster + cluster caltrops

5x scourges w/haywire + darklance

Razorwing w/darklance + flickerfield + splinter cannon


This is my list more or less. I run most things as tank hunters which kinda worked in our first game as by turn 4 all tanks were toast but now they can't seem to get close enough without biting the dust.

I've only played a handful of games with my DE and was hoping someone can help guide me in the right direction. Except for an Archon, all the models above are all I own (and 2 mandrakes) so any changes would need to be passengers or wargear as I am unable to drop everything for new models though I may be able to get one maybe two.

Cheers guys

P.s. I have no interest in running spam lists.

It does seem to be your list, to a fair extent. Dark eldar do not fare well on foot, and you lack reliable AT from a distance. However, with what you have it can be done.

Lilly is a good looking model, but she rarely justifies her points. Consider using her as a succbus. I would use your archon as an HQ instead. They are cheap, and quite killy for the points.

Bloodbrides are just overpriced wytches that don't score, and really need special weapons to be useful. Like wytches, they need to be meched up as they will die the minute any gun is pointed at them.

Mandrakes are quite possibly the worst unit in the codex, but they do look cool. Run them as wracks, they will fare better.

Kabbies do well in raiders, but not with a dark lance. Generally kabbies are in raiders to shoot infantry using just their rifles and splinter racks on the boat. Since you don't have another raider, have them sit back and snipe with the dark lance, giving their raider to the wytches(run them 10 strong, or 9 plus an archon or succbus).

Reavers are good.

Scourges should never take a dark lance as it is a heavy weapon. Give them two haywire blasters, or 2 heat lances/blasters. The haywire blasters are ok, but the other 2 guns can actually destroy armor reliably and work well with the shardcarbine range.

Razorwing can grab night shields instead of a cannon. Since you are probably using the 2 lances and 2 missiles until you run out of missiles, the cannon won't come into play till turn 5 minimum. Shatterfield missies are decent if you want to upgrade.

With what you have, I would run something like this.

Archon: Shadow field, blast pistol, venom blade, drugs

5X wracks w/liquifier(use your mandrake models). In a venom with 2 splinter cannons, night shields

9X wytches: haywire grenades. Raider w/night shields, aethersails.

10X kabbies: dark lance.

5X scourges: 2 blasters, solitaire w/blast pistol

3X reavers: cluster caltrops, blaster

Razorwing: night shield, flickerfield.

Not totally optimal, but good for what you have. I threw the blast pistols in there for some extra anti tank. It comes out below 1k so you can add some stuff as well. Maybe a hekatrix with stuff.

 Dr. Serling wrote:
It does seem to be your list, to a fair extent. Dark eldar do not fare well on foot, and you lack reliable AT from a distance. However, with what you have it can be done.

Lilly is a good looking model, but she rarely justifies her points. Consider using her as a succbus. I would use your archon as an HQ instead. They are cheap, and quite killy for the points.

Bloodbrides are just overpriced wytches that don't score, and really need special weapons to be useful. Like wytches, they need to be meched up as they will die the minute any gun is pointed at them.

Mandrakes are quite possibly the worst unit in the codex, but they do look cool. Run them as wracks, they will fare better.

Kabbies do well in raiders, but not with a dark lance. Generally kabbies are in raiders to shoot infantry using just their rifles and splinter racks on the boat. Since you don't have another raider, have them sit back and snipe with the dark lance, giving their raider to the wytches(run them 10 strong, or 9 plus an archon or succbus).

Reavers are good.

Scourges should never take a dark lance as it is a heavy weapon. Give them two haywire blasters, or 2 heat lances/blasters. The haywire blasters are ok, but the other 2 guns can actually destroy armor reliably and work well with the shardcarbine range.

Razorwing can grab night shields instead of a cannon. Since you are probably using the 2 lances and 2 missiles until you run out of missiles, the cannon won't come into play till turn 5 minimum. Shatterfield missies are decent if you want to upgrade.

With what you have, I would run something like this.

Archon: Shadow field, blast pistol, venom blade, drugs

5X wracks w/liquifier(use your mandrake models). In a venom with 2 splinter cannons, night shields

9X wytches: haywire grenades. Raider w/night shields, aethersails.

10X kabbies: dark lance.

5X scourges: 2 blasters, solitaire w/blast pistol

3X reavers: cluster caltrops, blaster

Razorwing: night shield, flickerfield.

Not totally optimal, but good for what you have. I threw the blast pistols in there for some extra anti tank. It comes out below 1k so you can add some stuff as well. Maybe a hekatrix with stuff.

I agree as with what you have this is the best you can get. work on geting another raider and some warriors with a splinter cannon and another venom

Cheers guys this is a great help. I will try to get a few practice games in before taking on the dreaded IG.