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Characters have their own Special Rules.
But they don't have the "If you take this, do X instead of the Chapter Trait."-rule any more.

So if you want Salamanders, you will say the army picks the Salamander-trait and all your flamers get upgraded, etc.

 Vaktathi wrote:
So, I may be missing something here, but it looks like the Grav Cannon is only available to Centurion Devastators if I'm reading this correctly. If so, that makes the "Salvo" weapon type rather...pointless doesn't it?

Consistency and forward compatibility? I could easily see Forgeworld doing man-portable grav cannon, for example.

Can you mastercraft krak grenades?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
So, I may be missing something here, but it looks like the Grav Cannon is only available to Centurion Devastators if I'm reading this correctly. If so, that makes the "Salvo" weapon type rather...pointless doesn't it?

Consistency and forward compatibility? I could easily see Forgeworld doing man-portable grav cannon, for example.

It really feels like they're pushing salvo simply because they wrote a new firing type in the core book and really want to remind people about it. Which explains sonic blasters being salvo.

Bikes have twin-linked Boltguns. Swap them out and you have your Special Weapon. Why is this an issue?

Kangodo wrote:
You don't "pick" traits.
You pick a Chapter and then get all the traits from that Chapter.

I for one am not looking forward to the count as nightmares to come.

 Ravenous D wrote:
I for one am not looking forward to the count as nightmares to come.

I don't see the problem?

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Bikes have twin-linked Boltguns. Swap them out and you have your Special Weapon. Why is this an issue?

1) No other loyalist-biker works like that.
2) Chaos works like that because they say "swap the weapon from the bike!"

Eventually something else might get a grav cannon. Just not now. Because you need to buy those crappy Centurions.

As far as the previous question:

Special Characters are tied to Chapter Traits. So if you pick Chapter Tactics: Imperial Fists, you cannot field Tigurius, for example, because he has Chapter Tactics: Ultramarines.

You pick one Chapter Tactics for your primary detachment. The only way to mix and match is to take an allied detachment with a separate Chapter Tactics. But any Special Characters chosen will only affect their detachment.


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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Bikes have twin-linked Boltguns. Swap them out and you have your Special Weapon. Why is this an issue?

Two reasons:
1. In 25 years, it has never worked like that. The bolt guns are built into the models, and everybody's existing models are probably built with the boltguns as part of them.
2. The wargear is Space Marine Bike, not twin-linked boltguns. It's still swapping out an item that doesn't technically exist.


The entry for Scouts very explicitly says that there is an option to trade out your bike's twin linked bolters for the Astartes grenade launcher. The regular bike squadron does not use that wording for the special weapons. How is it so hard for people to realize that this is an error? I don't even run bikes because I don't like the aesthetic. But I can see a proofreading error for what it is.