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The Administratum and High Lords define this alien race as a subset of humanity (regardless of composition and origins).

Job done.

As a general policy, no. Suffer not the alien to live.

They wouldn't even call in the Space Marines necessarily; remember that the bulk of the work is done by the Imperial Guard.

In practice, aliens which aren't sentient are allowed to exist for food, industry and so on.

Quietly, on the fridges and behind closed doors, expect aliens to be used as mercenaries and for dealings to be had with them. It's a fact of galactic life that there are loads and loads of aliens, and it's just not always practical to kill them all on sight right away. Consider the example of the Imperium vs the Tau; they flipflop from genocidal crusades to diplomacy, as and when it suits them.

Given the opportunity though, no. Death to all aliens.

Well,an alien mind cannot have the emperors blessing

 Daba wrote:
The Administratum and High Lords define this alien race as a subset of humanity (regardless of composition and origins).

Job done.

That's simply not going to happen, though. There are "Genetic Purity Tests" run by the Sisters of Battle and Adeptus Arbites to judge whether a given population is still considered "human" or has strayed too far, and must be eradicated to preserve the purity of the human genome. This is how they detect whether or not someone is a mutant, a xeno, an abhuman, or just an ugly homo sapiens sapiens. In the latter two cases, they'll be allowed to live (dependent on local custom for the abhumans)... the first two will be exterminated.

The rules say no, but considering the inefficiency of the Imperium I am sure some planets/solar systems have had alliances and dealings with alien species that lasted a thousand years before it was ever discovered by the Imperium proper. The same reason planets can suddenly revolt. And by revolt I mean they just stop sending troops and taxes. And no one notices cause that particular space transmission got lost in the warp.

Everyone acts like the Imperium is this all controlling entity but the limits of the technology of this gim dark universe make it nothing but pathetic posturing. In countless worlds with countless people in a mess of a government, what are the odds that your planets trangressions would even be noticed?

Off course they can serve the Imperium.
The mechanicus need to test their new weaponry on something.
The inquisition need to test their torture technices.
The space marines need to test the CC capabillities of their new recuits.
The Imperial Guard need to test their flame throwers.
Serve the Imperium Aliens!

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Off course they can serve the Imperium.
The mechanicus need to test their new weaponry on something.
The inquisition need to test their torture technices.
The space marines need to test the CC capabillities of their new recuits.
The Imperial Guard need to test their flame throwers.
Serve the Imperium Aliens!

Hand this man a prize! This is the right attitude to have regarding xeno scum!

No alien would serve the Emperor of Mankind, it's a trick. Best to kill them and prevent corruption or worse. Also if it were somehow possible then they're with the God Emperor and it's still all good.

And let's be honest, it is REALLY fun to kill orks

Aliens as Aliens, no.
Aliens as Abhumans, yes.
Radical Inquisitors see them, maybe.

In an ideal future there would be humans and animals/plants that they could use

(which would have zero chance of becoming sentient)

but that's not (40K) now

at the moment the Imperium will look to exterminate all aliens as soon as it's convenient.

Low tech races on single planets will be low priority, zap them if there's a convenient IG army nearby, but otherwise wait.

The higher the tech level of the aliens (or the presence of psychic powers or anything else that will attract chaos) the more effort the imperium will put in to eliminating them as soon as they become aware of them

up to the point where it would take too much effort to eliminate them in one blow like the Tau are now, focusing enough force to eliminate them would fatally weaken the imperium on one or more of their other fronts

so for now use diplomacy, study their tech (in order to better defeat it) use them against common enemies where you can and wait until a great crusade can wipe them out

Yes, we already have examples of it in the lore. See: Jokaero.

 Melissia wrote:
Yes, we already have examples of it in the lore. See: Jokaero.

Wrong.

Jokaero are not a sentient species, and thus not Xenos in the sense of "Do not associate with Xenos"

Jokaero are no more Xenos than a Grox is. They're no more than animals that build tools. A monkey that can build a typewriter is still a monkey.

 Grey Templar wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Yes, we already have examples of it in the lore. See: Jokaero.

Wrong.

Jokaero are not a sentient species, and thus not Xenos in the sense of "Do not associate with Xenos"

That's debated within the Imperium and even within the Inquisition.

Maybe some debate for the purposes of internal fluff, but the official stance would be what I said.

And we as the omnipresent third party know they are not sentient.

As others have said, the official position is to wipe all of them out.

The practical situation is that aliens are effectively ignored unless they have something the IoM wants. Once that alien race is officially noticed then an IG detachment will be sent to deal with them. Though it might be 100 years or a 1000 years before they show up.

Some IG governors have been known to trade with xenos. Ts usuall overlooked unless its in the IoM's interest to stop it. Even then it might be years before anything is done.

Rogue traders will exist. Their job is to locate, spy on and trade with various aliens. This is a good way to keep an eye on them so that when resources are eventually available the aliens can more easily be wiped out.

Some inquisitors might call extermninatus on sight, but those guys are usually new at the job.

Forgive me if this has been mentioned, but the fluff for the Inquisitor game has Sanctioned aliens in it. It´s not a matter of entire races getting accepted, but rather usefull individuals that are granted temporary amnesty by the Inquisition in return for loyal service.

Yea, there are several aliens in Inquisitor that are sanctioned. Off the top of my head, there's a kroot and also a bounty hunter xenos of an unnamed species that's the last of his kind (his species actually died out for some cause other than the IoM, surprisingly enough).

An entire race would still be questionable, although as stated before, the concept was at least brought up in Fulgrim with the Laer. Given that Fulgrim didn't execute the suggestors on the spot (to my recollection), I'm not sure the idea is particularly heretical, either, but I've seen heresay from non-canon sources that xenocist sentiments are worse in modern 40k than they were during the Heresy (I don't know if that's canon or not).

Depends on the day of the week.

No.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Maybe some debate for the purposes of internal fluff, but the official stance would be what I said.

And we as the omnipresent third party know they are not sentient.

They are sentient. A cat is about as sentient as a human. A cockroach is only slightly less sentient. A carnivorous plant is still (barely) sentient.

Sentience is the ability to subjectively feel, scientifically represented by the relationship between the information processing rate of each individual neuron, their weight/size, and their total number.

You are thinking about sapience, which is the ability to form judgement. Even that isn't the sole perview of humanity, and, if GW writers knew anything about cognitive sciences or epistemology, they would know that it would be impossible for an animal to perform the tasks Jokaero performs without a high degree of sapience, even if they had some sort of highly advanced genetical knowledge. That would simply allow an individual to know without learning, and he/she/it would still have to form judgements in order to act appropriately.

I thought Sapience was referring to a Human based physique.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I thought Sapience was referring to a Human based physique.

Nope, actually, it's the other way around ; Homo Sapiens means Wise Man. We no longer double the Sapiens, btw, that was introduced to distinguish between modern men and Cro-Magnon, and we know since 2003 that we're the same specie.

The Imperium of Man allowing the existence of inferior life forms as our equals? That is heresy!


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The Imperium of Man allowing the existence of inferior life forms as our equals? That is heresy!


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Slavery or vassalage isn't equality.

The more obvious question is why would xenos want to enslave themselves voluntarily to a political entity which would be likely to, some day, change it's mind and just viral bomb the gak out of them on principle?

Exterminate order issued ...
100-1000 years later the IG shows up and finds itself without enough to finish the fight quickly. So they call for reinforcements. Aliens find that worshiping the GIOM to be detrimental to their health and hire Ork, Kroot, and DarkEldar Mercs ..May even hire some Human and AbHuman Mercs to fight the Imperium..and then there is only Warrr....

No. "Suffer not the Alien to live" is basic Imperial Law. Breaking that law is punishable by death. The law is enforced by the Adeptus Arbites. Every Imperial world has an Arbites precinct. So No!

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Maybe some debate for the purposes of internal fluff, but the official stance would be what I said.

And we as the omnipresent third party know they are not sentient.

They are sentient. A cat is about as sentient as a human. A cockroach is only slightly less sentient. A carnivorous plant is still (barely) sentient.

Sentience is the ability to subjectively feel, scientifically represented by the relationship between the information processing rate of each individual neuron, their weight/size, and their total number.

You are thinking about sapience, which is the ability to form judgement. Even that isn't the sole perview of humanity, and, if GW writers knew anything about cognitive sciences or epistemology, they would know that it would be impossible for an animal to perform the tasks Jokaero performs without a high degree of sapience, even if they had some sort of highly advanced genetical knowledge. That would simply allow an individual to know without learning, and he/she/it would still have to form judgements in order to act appropriately.

Now guess how strong the role of cognitive science is when the average Inquisitor forms his (basically His) judgement on your heretical views
No really, look at the attitude of the imperium and its organisations, they're probably miles behind in this regard.