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From another thread:

Command Squad
+Bikes
+5x Grav-gun
+Apothecary
225 points for 5 models that can shoot anything down, clear them in assault when they 'fail' and have T5, 5++ and FnP

And you can pick Melee weapons too!
And cheap Storm Shields! Although you already have a 4+ with White Scars.
White Scars would be even better:
-Autopass DT-test.
-4+ Jink
-S5 HoW
-Hit and Run

So what do you think?

EDIT: Ignore what was written here before, I only just saw the speedy FAQ now.

Good to see the Bike Special Weapon debacle is over too.

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I have given it some thought and I would not take any special melee weapon.
But 2+ << You have 15 Grav-shots
But vehicles? << You have 15 Grav-shots.

Okay, okay! Maybe one Power Fist MAX!

 Godless-Mimicry wrote:
EDIT: Ignore what was written here before, I only just saw the speedy FAQ now.

Good to see the Bike Special Weapon debacle is over too.

Check the FAQ

I don't understand, why quote my edited post where I corrected myself, and then correct me?

Looks like the forum automatically updates quotes of edited posts now? I posted 30 seconds after your edit, BTW.

So that makes Bike Command Squads extremely good.

Now we all need grav bits.... sigh.

Martel732 wrote:
Now we all need grav bits.... sigh.

I'm not buying it.

The army doesn't need a ton of Grav Bits.

Granted though, it does make bike squads the universal Swiss Army tool to take against all infantry.

4+ or better, use the Gravs.
5+/6+, use the Boltguns.

Not a ton, no. But more than the tac box comes with. I'm not buying more than one new tac box.

Maybe you could try eBay?

Already been there. They are too new I think. The bitz guys have to do their stuff.

I still think RW w/dakka banner & tons tl plasma +rad grenades will out perform anything white scars can bring to the table. RW can always ally in a TFC.

Kangodo wrote:
<SNIP>

I have given it some thought and I would not take any special melee weapon.
But 2+ << You have 15 Grav-shots
But vehicles? << You have 15 Grav-shots.

Okay, okay! Maybe one Power Fist MAX!

I'm not convinced by grav guns against vehicles, I will still be running some units of plasma in my bike army to cover the middle ground between grav and melta.
If you think 15 with shots, you hit with BS on average 66%, which means 10 hits, which gives on average 1-2 hull points of damage for your 50 points investment. This might be ok if you are taking down a land raider, but then again it will do exactly the same thing to a rhino, so YMMV.

Edit: Grav cannons with grav amps on the other hand get so many shots and re rolls that they can strip armour pretty efficiently, its just the guns I have difficulty seeing in an anti armour role.

Martel732 wrote:
Already been there. They are too new I think. The bitz guys have to do their stuff.

One UK eBay bitz seller put up 10 of them for sale. They were all gone in 6 minutes.

I bought 6.

It's going to be like that for a while. I'll proxy until it dies down.

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
I'm not convinced by grav guns against vehicles, I will still be running some units of plasma in my bike army to cover the middle ground between grav and melta.
If you think 15 with shots, you hit with BS on average 66%, which means 10 hits, which gives on average 1-2 hull points of damage for your 50 points investment. This might be ok if you are taking down a land raider, but then again it will do exactly the same thing to a rhino, so YMMV.

But you're forgetting the most important thing!
Hit 1: Immobilize, so it can't move any more!
Hit 2: Now he lost a total of 3 Hullpoints.
So they average on 1 or 3, they can't even deal "only 2" HP's of damage.

Well I'm likely to bring at least one tri las pred, so I'm not just counting on grav for that. Not to mention scouts with meltabombs assaulting from storms.

I'm planning of buying the sternguard box just so that i get all the special weapon variants, then tons of green stuff and stalt making sculpts. After a successful sculpta and a paintjob, who knows it is homemade

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Looks like the forum automatically updates quotes of edited posts now? I posted 30 seconds after your edit, BTW.

Guess you are right, that's a strange new feature, though I understand why they implemented it. Will make a lot of people look like fool though

Bits and kits still have a few grav guns - they're charging five pounds each!!!

Just use alternative models people.

I ordered 16 of these on Saturday.

 labmouse42 wrote:
Just use alternative models people.

I ordered 16 of these on Saturday.

Unfortunately you're right. Why GW can't get a clue and at least sell weapons bits is a mystery.

I just ordered some as well. They look great and GW just keeps dropping the ball.

 ArbitorIan wrote:
Bits and kits still have a few grav guns - they're charging five pounds each!!!

I saw this. They have always been one hell of a rip-off site though. I'll just wait until some hit ebay. I intend to buy a Sternguard kit anyway to convert my Bike Command Squad, so that gives me a Grav Gun and 2 Combi-Gravs.

Chinese copyright laws ftw!
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w1017-149313044.53.35YxId&id=20100861342&

Edit: 5 rmb is about 50p.

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
Chinese copyright laws ftw!
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w1017-149313044.53.35YxId&id=20100861342&

Edit: 5 rmb is about 50p.

That would be great if I could read the page.

Those grav guns don't look too hard to build if you are against third party options. It's a gun with a cone on the end of it pretty much.