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Help! My attempts to paint a Bad Moonz battlewagon are proving disastrous.

Our Orc boyz are going pretty well thanks to More Dakka's gide.. But the battelwagon is proving much trickier. If I can get a decent base colour, maybe it will come together.

I was attempting to get results similar to this. but it's ot working.

I've done several variants, and an OK turret, which came out like this pic. It looks rough, ok, orkish, and I think would be acceptable .But I wanted to get a smoother finish on the larger services of the wagon itself and can't seem to do it.

Yellow is a pain in the butt......Painting it over black primer is more of a pain. I would paint it over white or brown, for smooth yellow an airbrush is always the way the go.

My main problem is, I think a base colour.

I've tried using the GW yellow base. No good at all. For the turret, I tried Vallejo Green Ochre, which gives us a good result with tyranids. But it's patchy over black.

For future battlewagon I think I'll prime white, then spray AP Daemonic yelow, which is the best aerosol I can find. (I"ve tried Tamiya and Humbrol). THen I'll wash. But what the heck can I base with, that will give me a smooth base? And do you know of any other rich yellows that might give better coverage than P3?
The GW are no better, and the AP is much worse.

IN the photos below, you'll see on the test area inside the vehicle, I've tried basing with green ochre, two coats of the darker P3 are still patchy, and the other P3 looks patchy over that.

I would have used GW tausept ochre, but of course it's no lagner available and balor brown seems a good deal darker. THis chap seems to get a good result priming black, then using tausept ochre.

Maybe it's bad brush technique? I could only get a smooth-ish finish on the turret wiht a humbrol brush, which has died, I was recommended the one I'm using which works well for figures, but gives really bad streaking on vehicles.



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 darefsky wrote:
Yellow is a pain in the butt......Painting it over black primer is more of a pain. I would paint it over white or brown, for smooth yellow an airbrush is always the way the go.

I can't really re-prime this vehicle, altho I will prime future ones white I reckon. What brown basecoat would you recommend? If I can get a smooth basecoat, I think I might be able to get the mid yellow smooth with a couple of thin coats? What's a brown that gives good coverage? Anyone used the new GW range?

A cheap air brush will solve all your problems. They have kits on ebay that run $110 in change for a good compressor and a decent brush. Worth it for painting yellow tanks.

Buy some Vallejo Yellow Ochre instead of the green. It covers everything and is the perfect base for yellow. That yellow is yellow ochre over black/brown/rust base coat with Vallejo golden yellow and a pale yellow over the ochre. I used it on my dread in my gallery.

BuyPainted uses it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsqDx0GResc

Have you tried just doing casandra yellow over white primer? Its not a great complex technique but I have been getting really good results with it for my Iyanden army.

Here is the GW way:

Prime white.
Base with Averland Sunset
Shade with Seraphin Sephia (optional step)
Layer with Yriel Yellow
Either layer with Flash Gitz yellow or highlight (depending on how bright you want your yellow)
If you layered with Flash Gits, mix some with white and use that for highlights.