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So I'm going to my first tourney in October and I'm looking to tweak my list.

Warboss on a bike with power klaw and cybork armor. 135

Elite

Biker nobz x5 1 power klaw with boss pole. 1 painboy. 1 waaaagh banner. 2 big choppas. (All cyborked) 335

Troops

6x 12 boyz, nob upgrade with boss pole and power klaw. Trukk with ram. 152x6 912

Dakka jet with extra supa shoota. 120


I end up with 1502. I don't know what to take away to make this work.
I was also thinking of getting rid of a trukk and boyz to make the nobz troops and adding another dakka jet both with fighta ace upgrades. And the supa shoota. But that would put me at around 1490 points.

Any suggestions I could do to improve this list?

Dump the big choppas. Not really usefull now. Same number of wounds as choppa/slugga vs marine at a higher cost.

The rams may not be too usefull on the trukks may be better off with red paint job or no upgrades.

If you dump one boys squad you can make your nobs troops. (you do not have force org room atm) Could use those extra points to beef up the nob squad or add in something else such as a second dakkajet.

Check out the flyboss upgrade for the dakkajet.

Just one ram or one boy.

Another thoughrt. My friend and I played an 875 game the other day and he thought he would over budget short range anti horde stuff. Just so happened that my trukk boyz units were each armed with a big shoota. This helped turn "backup and shoot 24 shots a turn at 30+ inches for two turns" a thing. Kinda thing that ate up several bikes on some bad saves and good ork shootin.

holymist wrote:
So I'm going to my first tourney in October and I'm looking to tweak my list.

Warboss on a bike with power klaw and cybork armor. 135

Elite

Biker nobz x5 1 power klaw with boss pole. 1 painboy. 1 waaaagh banner. 2 big choppas. (All cyborked) 335

Troops

6x 12 boyz, nob upgrade with boss pole and power klaw. Trukk with ram. 152x6 912

Dakka jet with extra supa shoota. 120




I end up with 1502. I don't know what to take away to make this work.
I was also thinking of getting rid of a trukk and boyz to make the nobz troops and adding another dakka jet both with fighta ace upgrades. And the supa shoota. But that would put me at around 1490 points.

Any suggestions I could do to improve this list?

I am wondering why you borked the nob bikes? You have +4 armour save for being a biker +4 Cover save for being on an ork bike and then the +5 FNP from pain boy. Is the bork just for the chance that the enemy has a PowerFist in CC or something?

osirisx69 wrote:

holymist wrote:
So I'm going to my first tourney in October and I'm looking to tweak my list.

Warboss on a bike with power klaw and cybork armor. 135

Elite

Biker nobz x5 1 power klaw with boss pole. 1 painboy. 1 waaaagh banner. 2 big choppas. (All cyborked) 335

Troops

6x 12 boyz, nob upgrade with boss pole and power klaw. Trukk with ram. 152x6 912

Dakka jet with extra supa shoota. 120




I end up with 1502. I don't know what to take away to make this work.
I was also thinking of getting rid of a trukk and boyz to make the nobz troops and adding another dakka jet both with fighta ace upgrades. And the supa shoota. But that would put me at around 1490 points.

Any suggestions I could do to improve this list?

I am wondering why you borked the nob bikes? You have +4 armour save for being a biker +4 Cover save for being on an ork bike and then the +5 FNP from pain boy. Is the bork just for the chance that the enemy has a PowerFist in CC or something?

You always do for any ap 4+ or str 10. It sucks to just pull 50-80 point models off the table if they have no save.

My buddy plays BA and tau. Many times I lost my armor and cover save. He drops his furioso naught. Bunch of ap4 flamers. As silly as it seems. I had to charge that naught with my nobz once since if I ignored him. He would have killed all my boyz with those bloody flamed weapons. On the charge I saved against his attacks with my cybork. 5 Pts to save anything is too good to pass up.

I could drop a big choppa to make the points work. Then add a ammo runt just to make my points 1500 exact. But I like the the fact of wounding on 2s at the cost of 1 attack.

 Da Squig wrote:

osirisx69 wrote:

holymist wrote:
So I'm going to my first tourney in October and I'm looking to tweak my list.

Warboss on a bike with power klaw and cybork armor. 135

Elite

Biker nobz x5 1 power klaw with boss pole. 1 painboy. 1 waaaagh banner. 2 big choppas. (All cyborked) 335

Troops

6x 12 boyz, nob upgrade with boss pole and power klaw. Trukk with ram. 152x6 912

Dakka jet with extra supa shoota. 120




I end up with 1502. I don't know what to take away to make this work.
I was also thinking of getting rid of a trukk and boyz to make the nobz troops and adding another dakka jet both with fighta ace upgrades. And the supa shoota. But that would put me at around 1490 points.

Any suggestions I could do to improve this list?

I am wondering why you borked the nob bikes? You have +4 armour save for being a biker +4 Cover save for being on an ork bike and then the +5 FNP from pain boy. Is the bork just for the chance that the enemy has a PowerFist in CC or something?

You always do for any ap 4+ or str 10. It sucks to just pull 50-80 point models off the table if they have no save.

What does str 10 have to do with anything? Also in the example above, ork exhaust cloud is a cover save so it is not effected by ap value. In CC I could see the points paying back in spades.


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holymist wrote:
My buddy plays BA and tau. Many times I lost my armor and cover save. He drops his furioso naught. Bunch of ap4 flamers. As silly as it seems. I had to charge that naught with my nobz once since if I ignored him. He would have killed all my boyz with those bloody flamed weapons. On the charge I saved against his attacks with my cybork. 5 Pts to save anything is too good to pass up.

I could drop a big choppa to make the points work. Then add a ammo runt just to make my points 1500 exact. But I like the the fact of wounding on 2s at the cost of 1 attack.

Well you would have used your exhaust cloud save when you charged which is a cover save of 4+ in CC I can see the use of borked bodies for 5 points per model though.

Anything ap 4 in combat sucks. Ap4 flamers means I only get my feel no pain save. Any type of power weapon can deny armor save. Tau generally negates cover save. And would use ap4 or better against my nobz since they are the biggest threat. 5 pts is a good investment I think

holymist wrote:
Anything ap 4 in combat sucks. Ap4 flamers means I only get my feel no pain save. Any type of power weapon can deny armor save. Tau generally negates cover save. And would use ap4 or better against my nobz since they are the biggest threat. 5 pts is a good investment I think

Is this a tau weapon that can be used in CC that is ap4? Forgive me but I have never faced Tau and so I am very ignorant on there weapons and such.

I mean any army in general for close combat. Tau crumple if you get into melee with them. Just good luck doing so lol.

Example. Had 10 boyz and a nob charge a firewarrior group. He had 3 other squads overwatch them. Had the ethereal. They killed all but my nob who had 1 wound left. Lol challenged his ethereal. Killed it. Ran him off. Killing his full squad lol.

His firewarriors will weight of dice the nobz. The riptide would do good damage to them as well as hammerheads I believe they are called.

The first thing I thought of looking at this list was "that warboss needs an attack squig"
Other then that I'd probably drop one trukk for a couple of 5man squads of Lootas, maybe even drop the dakkajet for 5 more lootas and a squad of 3x kannons
Other then that this list looks awesome, I love trukk lists in general

osirisx69 wrote:

 Da Squig wrote:

osirisx69 wrote:

holymist wrote:
So I'm going to my first tourney in October and I'm looking to tweak my list.

Warboss on a bike with power klaw and cybork armor. 135

Elite

Biker nobz x5 1 power klaw with boss pole. 1 painboy. 1 waaaagh banner. 2 big choppas. (All cyborked) 335

Troops

6x 12 boyz, nob upgrade with boss pole and power klaw. Trukk with ram. 152x6 912

Dakka jet with extra supa shoota. 120




I end up with 1502. I don't know what to take away to make this work.
I was also thinking of getting rid of a trukk and boyz to make the nobz troops and adding another dakka jet both with fighta ace upgrades. And the supa shoota. But that would put me at around 1490 points.

Any suggestions I could do to improve this list?

I am wondering why you borked the nob bikes? You have +4 armour save for being a biker +4 Cover save for being on an ork bike and then the +5 FNP from pain boy. Is the bork just for the chance that the enemy has a PowerFist in CC or something?

You always do for any ap 4+ or str 10. It sucks to just pull 50-80 point models off the table if they have no save.

What does str 10 have to do with anything? Also in the example above, ork exhaust cloud is a cover save so it is not effected by ap value. In CC I could see the points paying back in spades.


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holymist wrote:
My buddy plays BA and tau. Many times I lost my armor and cover save. He drops his furioso naught. Bunch of ap4 flamers. As silly as it seems. I had to charge that naught with my nobz once since if I ignored him. He would have killed all my boyz with those bloody flamed weapons. On the charge I saved against his attacks with my cybork. 5 Pts to save anything is too good to pass up.

I could drop a big choppa to make the points work. Then add a ammo runt just to make my points 1500 exact. But I like the the fact of wounding on 2s at the cost of 1 attack.

Well you would have used your exhaust cloud save when you charged which is a cover save of 4+ in CC I can see the use of borked bodies for 5 points per model though.

Strength 10 is instant death meaning if you have no cybork you just pick up a model, no fnp no 2 wounds. Ideally you want to avoid any str 10 especially if it has ap 4+ which is everything str 10 that I can think of. Nobs even biker nobs are far better in CC then shooting. Dakkaguns are good but not better then power claws or 5 str 5 ws 5 attacks on the charge so use then guns then pound in for the kill.

If you are not willing to pay 5 points per 45+ point model then there is no point in using them. They will underperform.

On big choppas, you lose 1 attack per model since they are 2 handed. vs marines on the charge you inflict 2.22 wounds with slugga/choppa and 2.22 with big choppa so they are exactly the same vs t4 anything less then t4 and slugga choppa will be better and costs you nothing as opposed to 5 ppm.

That is true. But if your going against anything tougher than 4 toughness then they are great. MCs or naughts or nurgle anything and they are better. Although shouldn't try to attack MCs or naughts. But if you have to then you arent just relying on your 2 pks

I've run almost this exact list. The outcome was that it needed more dakka and less choppy.

I'd drop a trukk, make the Bikers troops, and then use the points for some cheapo kannons

holymist wrote:
That is true. But if your going against anything tougher than 4 toughness then they are great. MCs or naughts or nurgle anything and they are better. Although shouldn't try to attack MCs or naughts. But if you have to then you arent just relying on your 2 pks

I have found Dreads and MCs to be a lost cause with nobs. They swing before you and cause id so you are pretty far behind the power curve to start off. I like to run 1 painboy 1 pk/banner/pole and an extra pk if 6+ models. The rest I just give a bike and cybork and leave them up front to be the first casualties. Some will die and you might as well keep the loss to a minimum. The only reason I see to use big choppas is if you already paid for a combi scorcha and just happen to have 5-10 points left over for the big choppa. Even then I would make sure I put the scorchas on the pk nobs first since they are already missing out on the +1 attack for cc weapon/pistol due to specialist weapon.

^This

I do take Big Choppas with my Biker Nobs, but only because it brings them back up to speed when I take away their +1A with a kombi skorcha. But going up against Dreads or MC means going up against S10 and they hate that gak