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 -Loki- wrote:

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:

 Qcbob wrote:
This make so much sens! You got +1 from me!

There's very clearly 7 Devastator Squads in the 9th company.

The problem is there isn't 100 Space Marines. There's 12 Centurions taking the place of 30 normal Marines (2 squads of 3 and one of 6). Whenever they've swapped out a Devastator or Assault squad for Centurions, they've left it at 3 or 6 Marines, when it should still be 10 going by squad and company numbers. So wherever they swap in Centurions they really should be swapping in 10, not 3 or 6, regardless of how the squad works in game, since they're meant to be selling a full chapter. They're quite frankly not doing that.

They died

Okay so i just calcluated
so 90 x 12 = 108000
so
1052100 / 108000= 9.741 per model (give or take, minus tanks)

So....
A tactical squad = 45$
45 x 10800 = 486000

Its cheaper to buy 45$ packs than to buy the astartes ultra complete chapter

Well my my. Math nerd ftw!

Why isn't GW offering a life time membership with this purchase as well as a three year discount on all their products and a hobbyist pension to go with it?? You'll be living in a cardboard box eating 2 minute noodles for the next 3 years after that purchase.

 Asherian Command wrote:
Okay so i just calcluated
so 90 x 12 = 108000
so
1052100 / 108000= 9.741 per model (give or take, minus tanks)

So....
A tactical squad = 45$
45 x 10800 = 486000

Its cheaper to buy 45$ packs than to buy the astartes ultra complete chapter

Well my my. Math nerd ftw!

All I got out of that was 1080 which is a type of poison.
1080 btw is what 90 x 12 is, whatever 90 and 12 refer to, not 108000 or 10800.

One click seems like a lot of work to me. GW should work out a way to auto-fill your shopping cart with this as soon as you land on their site.

I've been laughing uproariously at this "deal" for the past 15 minutes straight.

On a more somber note, there is something fundamentally wrong with their accounting and marketing strategy...

The others are driving the vehicles.

Besides, 1k marines is a nominal strength.

Does this thing have Land Speeders? If not, there's something more significant to bitch about (frankly, any bitching in this thread about this "deal" is sadly misplaced...)

It has 11 land speeders and 5 land speeder storms. It has no scout bikes though, otherwise it pretty much has everything in the non-Chapter specific range.

Wait until the BT one comes out you don't know how many models you get until it arrives.

 -Loki- wrote:

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:

 Qcbob wrote:
This make so much sens! You got +1 from me!

There's very clearly 7 Devastator Squads in the 9th company.

The problem is there isn't 100 Space Marines. There's 12 Centurions taking the place of 30 normal Marines (2 squads of 3 and one of 6). Whenever they've swapped out a Devastator or Assault squad for Centurions, they've left it at 3 or 6 Marines, when it should still be 10 going by squad and company numbers. So wherever they swap in Centurions they really should be swapping in 10, not 3 or 6, regardless of how the squad works in game, since they're meant to be selling a full chapter. They're quite frankly not doing that.

9th Company per bundle:

Command Squad: 5 Marines
Squad 1-7: 70 Marines
Squad 8-10: 12 Marines
Rhino x4: 4 Marines (driver)
Razorback x4: 4 Marines (driver & remote/auto guns) or 8 Marines (driver & gunner)
Land Raider: 2 Marines (driver, commander)
Land Speeder x3: 6 Marines (driver, gunner)
Whirlwind x3: 6 Marines (driver, gunner)
Hunter x2: 4 Marines (driver, gunner)
Captain
Chaplain
Librarian
Techmarine

Total: 117 Space Marines in the 9th Company.

Or you know, maths.


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Quick total number of the Chapter:

1st Company: 123
2nd Company: 125
3rd Company: 105
4th Company: 117
5th Company: 120
6th Company: 120
7th Company: 126
8th Company: 118
9th Company: 117
10th Company: 133

Total: 1204 Space Marines

There are two extra companies in there! Somebody call the Codex Police! This is heresy!

Personally, I'd like to know what the additional cost is to totally pimp it out into a BT crusade.

Say, two BT upgrade packs per 10 marines.

'Cause then it would be SO worth it

Techmarines, drivers, pilots, support and command personnel aren't counted towards the total.

It's 100 battle brothers, the basic marines and their sergeant.

 Civik wrote:
Techmarines, drivers, pilots, support and command personnel aren't counted towards the total.

It's 100 battle brothers, the basic marines and their sergeant.

Got a source for that?

More of a plug than an advertisment. But you know how Battlefoam PACK system numbers their bags acroding to the number of infintary minitures you can fit into the bag? Well, the PACK1520 should be able to fit the entire infintary portion (1100 minitures) of the Ultramarine 1 click bundle, even accounting the larger terminators and special characters

It gives some perspective on how many minitures you are getting from GW and really how much minitures you can cram into a BF PACK1520 bag.

Tanks/Vehicles, that's another story.... anyone willing to do the match on how many extra cases you will need to fit all the vehicles?

 d-usa wrote:

 Civik wrote:
Techmarines, drivers, pilots, support and command personnel aren't counted towards the total.

It's 100 battle brothers, the basic marines and their sergeant.

Got a source for that?

I always thought it was just the accepted thing?

cadbren wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:
Okay so i just calcluated
so 90 x 12 = 108000
so
1052100 / 108000= 9.741 per model (give or take, minus tanks)

So....
A tactical squad = 45$
45 x 10800 = 486000

Its cheaper to buy 45$ packs than to buy the astartes ultra complete chapter

Well my my. Math nerd ftw!

All I got out of that was 1080 which is a type of poison.
1080 btw is what 90 x 12 is, whatever 90 and 12 refer to, not 108000 or 10800.

Thats Marines
so 1200 x 90 = 108000 so divide it by 10 for squads. 10800 x it by 45$ per a squad. and you have 486000$ in total

The drivers are usually taken from the Reserve companies. If every single marine took to the field you'd have a lot of 8 man tactical squads.

Logic.

Because if a company was at full strength, they would have closer to 130 marines.

Ten squads of ten = 100 marines
Commander and command squad = 11 marines (possibly more if there are more than a single apothecary.
Chaplain = 1 assuming he doesn't have any reclusiam marines at his side
Rhino drivers = 10 marines
Techmarine (just one? We can assume chapter serfs and servitors) = 1
Predator drivers and gunners = 6-10 marines
Dreadnaughts = usually from 0-4 marines.

Speeders and bikes aren't counted because these are usually drawn from assault brothers.

It would seriously deplete the strength of a company if there were only 100 maines. That would be 10 of 10 without any command support and their vehicles would be inert or running on machine spirit alone leaving them without fire support.

 d-usa wrote:

 Civik wrote:
Techmarines, drivers, pilots, support and command personnel aren't counted towards the total.

It's 100 battle brothers, the basic marines and their sergeant.

Got a source for that?

The latest codex for a start, its in another room and I'm too lazy to go and get it for a pg ref, but I remember noticing how it mentioned it, because I thought "ah, there's the answer to why 1000 Marines doesn't work when you factor in all the support roles"

 Civik wrote:
Logic.

Because if a company was at full strength, they would have closer to 130 marines.

Ten squads of ten = 100 marines
Commander and command squad = 11 marines (possibly more if there are more than a single apothecary.
Chaplain = 1 assuming he doesn't have any reclusiam marines at his side
Rhino drivers = 10 marines
Techmarine (just one? We can assume chapter serfs and servitors) = 1
Predator drivers and gunners = 6-10 marines
Dreadnaughts = usually from 0-4 marines.

Speeders and bikes aren't counted because these are usually drawn from assault brothers.

It would seriously deplete the strength of a company if there were only 100 maines. That would be 10 of 10 without any command support and their vehicles would be inert or running on machine spirit alone leaving them without fire support.

Stories and fluff talk about battle brothers driving. One of the books talked about other marines being offended that a serf has learned to fly one of their craft instead of a battle brother.

Crew are often seconded from reserve companies as well to support the regular companies in battle.

Crew are part of the regular Space Marine numbers, that's why there is a variance in chapter strength.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:


all hand deliverded by Kayden Kross....

Lol, better order it quick before she is a blimp! She is pregnant with the Porn Star she is dating's child!

I've been bored enough to work this out, I've gone off the list above and it's a saving of about £900. Surely not?!

I'm sure some poor GW minion will find a P45 winging its way in the post as we speak

2 of these and you can buy at least a 300 square meter house inside a nice, gated subdivision in the Philippines. Either the cost of living here is really low, or this is just really expensive. Or both.

Wonder how much it would cost if they do Black Templars.

 heartserenade wrote:
2 of these and you can buy at least a 300 square meter house inside a nice, gated subdivision in the Philippines. Either the cost of living here is really low, or this is just really expensive. Or both.

Wonder how much it would cost if they do Black Templars.

60,000$
From my Calculations

 d-usa wrote:

 Civik wrote:
Logic.

Because if a company was at full strength, they would have closer to 130 marines.

Ten squads of ten = 100 marines
Commander and command squad = 11 marines (possibly more if there are more than a single apothecary.
Chaplain = 1 assuming he doesn't have any reclusiam marines at his side
Rhino drivers = 10 marines
Techmarine (just one? We can assume chapter serfs and servitors) = 1
Predator drivers and gunners = 6-10 marines
Dreadnaughts = usually from 0-4 marines.

Speeders and bikes aren't counted because these are usually drawn from assault brothers.

It would seriously deplete the strength of a company if there were only 100 maines. That would be 10 of 10 without any command support and their vehicles would be inert or running on machine spirit alone leaving them without fire support.

Stories and fluff talk about battle brothers driving. One of the books talked about other marines being offended that a serf has learned to fly one of their craft instead of a battle brother.

Crew are often seconded from reserve companies as well to support the regular companies in battle.

Crew are part of the regular Space Marine numbers, that's why there is a variance in chapter strength.

SM drive them. but they're marines whose job it is to drive them. Most regular marines could probably drive a rhino for example if they were called upon to do so.

And most drivers could pick up a bolter and fight on the front line.

I think that the great primarch figured out that people could go "we will hide our regular marines in tanks, nobody will know that they are there" and counted them in their numbers.

They go through all the same training, all the same implants, all the same battles. But because they can drive a stick they don't count?

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
The drivers are usually taken from the Reserve companies. If every single marine took to the field you'd have a lot of 8 man tactical squads.

The 1-click bundle by GW is:

the Ultramarines chapter deployed at 888M41 at Orar.

Because the fluff at the GW site says so.

Count the infantry models. There is no one left to act as crew if there isn't more personnel than just 1k...
hint: they offer fieldable models ... not representations of models who may be fielded but some have to be spared because you "need" them to drive the vehicles they sold you.

The 1k was explained as: 10 companies > 10 Squads > 10 marines.
GW pics: 10 companies > 11 squads .....

Yes, because their duties to the chapter lie outside the scope of a battle brother. Many could drive it, but these marines have the technical aptitude to maintain their vehicles.

Drivers and gunners are beginning initiation into the machine cult(which is why they have the cog symbol on their shoulder pad opposite the chapter symbol) A very few move on to become techmarines.

For that money I would buy literally everything I ever wanted from GW and all other miniature companies and still save most of the money.

Really the volume alone of this deal is ridiculous, you would need to build a new room in your house just to store this...


We need to see a Nid full fleet now.