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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 07:52:43
Subject: Re:Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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It's one of those things - if you had the money and could justify it - you'd probably do it. Though you'd need the mini painter equivalent of the A-team to help assemble and paint it, then make the scaled fleet it all goes in
Hell apart from the signed stuff, the least they could do is throw in 2 dozen cans of the blue paint and plastic glue bottles as part of the deal.
Still it's impressive to see at least but almost wholly impractical unless you and 10 very good/reliable friends split the cost and took a Company each, maybe
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 07:56:58
Subject: Re:Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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I think the thread was locked because it was a duplicate?
As peregrine says really the only thing you can say about it is that.. well, it's just dull. I can't imagine, even if you had the money and wanted to collect a truck-load of marines, why you would want to buy it.
There is also the ineffable law of wargaming, that says games with that many troops in a game should not be played at 28mm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 07:57:34
Subject: Re:Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Leigen_Zero wrote:I've got a feeling that this deal (well, I called it a 'deal', more of a 'convienent way to pay retail on a large order) is meant more to drum up discussion than to actually make money.
But it's pretty disappointing if that's the goal. Besides the fact that the entire discussion is "wow, GW is really stupid" it's just not a very interesting news item. They picked the absolute blandest way to make a full marine chapter, with nothing at all to inspire you to dream about owning it. It's got all of the "thrill" of managing a game store and ordering your monthly inventory.
warspawned wrote:It's one of those things - if you had the money and could justify it - you'd probably do it.
No, I really wouldn't. I could think of countless better ways of spending that much money, even if I had to spend it all on 40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 08:00:20
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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You are right of course. It gets people talking, and hey, if someone actually buys it - then great - they made a bunch of sales they wouldn't have otherwise got.
Why people choose to get all bent out of shape over what is essentially a publicity gimmick truly escapes me...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 08:05:04
Subject: Re:Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This is the kind of stuff GW needs to have on their website just in case someone's 2 year old accidentally taps the Ipad a couple of times too many.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 08:25:42
Subject: Re:Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Peregrine wrote: Leigen_Zero wrote:I've got a feeling that this deal (well, I called it a 'deal', more of a 'convienent way to pay retail on a large order) is meant more to drum up discussion than to actually make money.
But it's pretty disappointing if that's the goal. Besides the fact that the entire discussion is "wow, GW is really stupid" it's just not a very interesting news item. They picked the absolute blandest way to make a full marine chapter, with nothing at all to inspire you to dream about owning it. It's got all of the "thrill" of managing a game store and ordering your monthly inventory.
But it's got us all talking about space marines...
It's a gimmick (regardless of it's quality) that is designed to get people to visit the GW online store, and while all of us on Dakka may scoff haughtily in our parlours over a snifter of brandy, the bean-counters over at GW HQ know that for every X number of people that go to the store to look at the £7000 uber-deal, Y fraction of those people will think 'well I don't want a whole chapter, maybe just a battleforce and a few pots of paint'.
Its the same principle as those 'extreme eating' challenges at restaurants, they know that 90% won't attempt the burger the size of a car tyre, but enough people will have heard about it to want to eat there, just so they can say they ate a restaurant that served a burger the size of a car tyre.
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My P&M Log: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/433120.page
Atma01 wrote:
And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!
Phototoxin wrote:Kids go in , they waste tonnes of money on marnus calgar and his landraider, the slaneshi-like GW revel at this lust and short term profit margin pleasure. Meanwhile father time and cunning lord tzeentch whisper 'our games are better AND cheaper' and then players leave for mantic and warmahordes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 08:33:44
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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I shudder to think of how many mold lines that is to file.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 08:45:38
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Kelne
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This is exactly like the 1 million USD Saints Row IV deal where you had 2 cars and a trip overseas and a mansion stay included.
They don't intend you to buy this.
They want you to talk about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 09:10:31
Subject: Re:Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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If you buy this and you see the big box full of similar grey plastic arms, leggs and torsos, you realise you have bought yourself a depression.
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8000 points fully painted
hive fleet belphegor 3500 points
1k sons killteam
Dakka is the ork word for shooting, but the ork concept of shooting is saturation fire. Just as there is no such thing as a "miss" in a target-rich environment, there is no such thing as a "dodge" in a bullet rich one
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 10:24:46
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Here's part I don't understand. The description states, "4 Space Marine Drop Pods" but the picture of the 3rd Company shows 10 drop pods. Was "4" a misprint? Or are we being shorted?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 10:30:54
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The price is silly of course, if anything it highlights exactly how expensive plastic space marines have become, however, as a modeler foremost and a gamer only part time, I would love that big box.
The sheer amount of parts you would have to make a custom space marine force is just a converters wet dream really.
Too expensive for anyone who works to pay their bills I should think, but if you had real money and were into space marines, why not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 10:41:23
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Fixture of Dakka
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Breotan wrote:Here's part I don't understand. The description states, "4 Space Marine Drop Pods" but the picture of the 3rd Company shows 10 drop pods. Was "4" a misprint? Or are we being shorted?
There's a Drop Pod in the 6 Space Marine strike forces. - That makes the numbers up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 10:46:02
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Confessor Of Sins
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No Thunderhawks.. what mockery is this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 10:49:08
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'm going to lay my hand on my heart and be honest about something...
I'm pretty sure I've got near enough 3 companies of marines already...
With very few purchases, and if you include things like bikers, I'm pretty sure I'm theoretically close to having a 1st Company, Assault Company and Battle Company. Yes, I am slightly concerned...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 10:56:14
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Compel wrote: Breotan wrote:Here's part I don't understand. The description states, "4 Space Marine Drop Pods" but the picture of the 3rd Company shows 10 drop pods. Was "4" a misprint? Or are we being shorted?
There's a Drop Pod in the 6 Space Marine strike forces. - That makes the numbers up.
Ah, yes. I forgot about that. Thanks.
So, assuming I didn't fat-finger anything the total retail in USD is $13182.00. The deal is listed at $11,690.00. Discount on buying separate is 11.4%
So, as exciting as this all is and as rare as discounts from GW are, I'm not going to lose any sleep because of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 10:57:50
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Alkasyn wrote:This is exactly like the 1 million USD Saints Row IV deal where you had 2 cars and a trip overseas and a mansion stay included.
They don't intend you to buy this.
They want you to talk about it.
The difference is that the Saints Row IV deal was ridiculously expensive because they were just throwing in a ton of crazy gak like cars, week-long international holidays and a trip into space. The Ultramarines deal is ridiculously expensive because individual miniatures are ridiculously expensive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 11:01:23
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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A short while back, I tried to compile the inventory for a fully manned Space Marine Chapter. I based it off the Ultramarine list in 3rd Ed but excluded fliers as they're supposedly part of the Fleet and not a specific Battle or Reserv Company. The actual cost of a fully stocked Chapter will blow your mind. Link to that discussion below:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/549095.page#6049388
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 11:07:55
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior
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If anyone here is buying this, feel free to shout one to me - it'd be a nice gesture y'know...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 11:14:42
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Well I for one think this is very appealing. We are talking about owning an entire Space Marine Chapter. An entire one. It is the ultimate collection, pretty much the pinnacle of what it is to be a part of the miniature wargaming hobby. When you think about it like that, ~10,000-20,000 £/$/€ for the whole package is an awesome offer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 11:19:36
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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KirbyFan wrote:Well I for one think this is very appealing. We are talking about owning an entire Space Marine Chapter. An entire one. It is the ultimate collection, pretty much the pinnacle of what it is to be a part of the miniature wargaming hobby.
I do not believe those words mean what you think they mean.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 11:24:50
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Regular Dakkanaut
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WTF ROTFL!
I suppose there's no economical crisis in Nottingham...
this, or they're plain trolling us. they can't be serious...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 11:40:28
Subject: Re:Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Rapacious Razorwing
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Just calculated it all, in Europe you save
*drums for tension*
1186,50 euro
And that's excluding the free codex and all the other signed stuff it comes with...
(Atleast GW got a little tiny bit of sense out of the Iyanden 24 hour failure)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 11:53:29
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Ouze wrote:KirbyFan wrote:Well I for one think this is very appealing. We are talking about owning an entire Space Marine Chapter. An entire one. It is the ultimate collection, pretty much the pinnacle of what it is to be a part of the miniature wargaming hobby.
I do not believe those words mean what you think they mean.
Don't feed it.. !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 11:53:46
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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You're thinking too small, Chapters have a fleet. I want a 28mm scale Battlebarge before I even consider this 'generous' offer.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 12:03:42
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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I think it is a fun idea and it certainly got us talking about it, though the value of that in a group of people that already passes a lot of time talking about GW/Space Marines is debateable.
Value wise it seems a good deal for someone who has $13,000 to spare and wants the kudos of owning an entire chapter, essentially a piece of low utility conspicuous consumption.
Unlike a sports car, though, it won't help you get girls.
If I was to open a wargames campaign centre, I would certainly consider this as a good way to get all the SMs needed even for very large games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 12:10:17
Subject: Re:Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Wowzers, my lil bro showed me this earlier.... I'm speechless really, but just imagine how many points that sucker is in 2nd Ed? (The only edition worth playing btw).
I'm currently saving to buy a house at the moment and have nearly £4,000 after just 3 months of saving.... If I waited for another 3 months and 'Lost' the deposit, do you guys reckon that the wife would notice
I could have it sent to my parents house and claim it was hackers....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 12:41:09
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Ruglud wrote:This made me laugh
These kits comes supplied unpainted and require assembly - we recommend using Citadel Plastic Glue, Citadel Super Glue and Citadel Paints... and you're going to need lots!
£7,065 and they can't throw in a few pots of glue...
Or the Sculpted Shoulder Pads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 12:42:11
Subject: Re:Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Prospector with Steamdrill
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Oops... accidentally purchase it. Dam One-Click Deal, it is too easy to purchase...
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Grrr.... Cheese make me fart... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 14:09:20
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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I don't know what FLGS you attend, but pretty much the only reason I got into wargaming was the women. It's a little tiresome after a while though; you're all OK, "lets do 1500 points of Ultramarines"; and who shows up tipsy and looking to score? Emma Watson, again. Come on, Hermione, I'm trying to get my warhams on.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/14 14:15:31
Subject: Ultramarines Chapter One-Click
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Ouze wrote:
I don't know what FLGS you attend, but pretty much the only reason I got into wargaming was the women. It's a little tiresome after a while though; you're all OK, "lets do 1500 points of Ultramarines"; and who shows up tipsy and looking to score? Emma Watson, again. Come on, Hermione, I'm trying to get my warhams on.
You too huh?
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