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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 11:12:14
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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'Revenge porn' victim devotes life fighting to change nation's laws
When Holly Jacobs sent nude photographs of herself to a long-distance boyfriend she loved and trusted, the 22-year-old woman never imagined the horror that would befall her.
In August 2009, less than a year after the pair mutually ended their three-year relationship, Jacobs did a Google search of her name and discovered the naked photos on a so-called "revenge porn" website.
"I just went completely into shock," said Jacobs, who hired a lawyer and eventually changed her birth name from "Holli Thometz" to Holly Jacobs.
"This is cyber-rape," Jacobs, now 30, told FoxNews.com. "It's all about the guy having control over the woman and exploiting her in a sexual way -- the same way real-life rape does that. It violates you over and over again."
What came next was perhaps more shocking to Jacobs. Police in Miami, where she lived at the time, took no action. They told her that "because you are over 18 and you consented, technically they are his property and he can do whatever he wants with them," she recalled.
Jacobs, a 2005 graduate of Boston College who managed to earn a Ph.D during her ordeal, channeled her pain into advocacy for women similarly victimized by ex-boyfriends, who -- without their knowledge or consent -- posted photos meant to be private in the most public and humiliating way. Jacobs created the website "End Revenge Porn" and formed the group Cyber Civil Rights Initiative (CCRI), under which she serves as CEO and executive director.
With the advancement of technology, millions of people -- mostly teens and young adults -- turn to "sexting" pornographic or inappropriate photos to their boyfriends or girlfriends, with little or no foresight into what may one day become of them.
"At this time, 49 states do little or nothing to stop malicious individuals from endangering lives and reputations by distributing sexually graphic pictures of people without their consent," said Mary Anne Franks, a professor at University of Miami School of Law. "Both state and federal criminal laws are needed to prevent and address this form of sexual abuse."
For Jacobs, the initial discovery of nude photos on a website called "AmIHotOrNotNude.com" was only the beginning of her nightmare.
The young woman hired a lawyer, who wrote a letter to Jacobs' ex-boyfriend, Tampa resident Ryan Seay, to "just kind of scare him." The photos immediately came down, Jacobs said.
In November 2011, Jacobs began dating someone new, and posted a picture of the two on her Facebook page. Hours later, she was bombarded by emails from strangers saying, "There are pictures of you all over 'revenge porn' websites."
"My material went viral within three days. It was on over 200 websites, with my full name, my e-mail address, the school I attended, and a link to where I worked," said Jacobs, who at the time was a teaching assistant at Florida International University.
And then a chilling e-mail arrived in her inbox from a fake Yahoo e-mail address that was created using her name. The writer told her to "get in touch concerning your photos" and warned her that a "nice video" was awaiting distribution, she recalled.
"Have your boss and co-worker seen it?" the taunting e-mail read.
The sender wrote that if Jacobs did not respond by a certain time, he would upload the video, titled, "“Masturbation 201 by Professor Holli Thometz." And he did, she said.
According to Jacobs, the video was an old Skype interaction between her and Seay, which was recorded without her knowledge.
In April 2013, Jacobs filed a civil lawsuit against Seay as well as websites and servers that posted the photos and personal information. The lawsuit claims that Seay and the other defendants violated her privacy by posting such photos and information without her consent. The complaint also seeks a court order prohibiting additional publication by the defendant, and to retrieve or destroy all the photos in Seay's possession, Jacobs' Miami-based attorney, Patrick McGeehan, told FoxNews.com.
Seay, 28, could not be reached for comment. He has reportedly claimed someone hacked into his computer and stole the photos from him. In an e-mail to FoxNews.com, his attorney, Charles Arline, denied any wrongdoing by his client.
"At this time I can only relate that my client is eager to answer these charges and defend himself in the proper forum, i.e. the court system," Arline wrote. "He adamantly disputes the allegations and is in no remote way affiliated with any type of revenge porn and has previously extended his support to Ms. Thometz or Ms Jacobs efforts."
"The laws have not kept up with technology, that's the bottom line," Jacobs said.
In New York, for example, such behavior would be criminal if the plaintiff could prove the video was secretly taken, according to legal sources.
"If a person was surreptitiously recorded or unaware that the video was being made, and the recording is then disseminated on one of these websites, this is a crime," said Mark Bederow, a New York-based criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. "In New York, posting a video made in such a manner would constitute Unlawful Surveillance in the Second Degree, which is a felony."
"Even if the person was aware she was being recorded, dissemination of this material in a manner designed to humiliate may constitute aggravated harassment. Other states have similar statutes," Bederow said.
But University of Maryland School of Law Professor Danielle Keats Citron notes that such dissemination would only be criminal if the defendant engaged in a "harassing course of conduct as an ongoing harassment campaign."
"One posting, even two, as damaging as it will be, would not constitute a crime in New York and other states," Citron said. "It can't be an isolated event."
New Jersey remains the only state that makes it a felony to share an individual's nude images without that person's consent. That law came about in 2004, and was used when Rutgers University student Tyler Clementi jumped to his death, distraught over a secret video that emerged of him kissing another man inside his college dorm room. To date, the state's law remains the toughest on revenge porn.
Legislation is currently pending in California that, if signed into law, would criminalize revenge porn – despite concerns from free speech advocates. But the legislation there does not cover "self-shots," images men or women take of themselves.
In Wisconsin, however, state lawmakers are drafting a comprehensive bill that appears to strike a balance between protecting victims of revenge porn and free speech rights.
"Wisconsin's law is carefully crafted so that it both protects victims and respects First Amendment values," said Franks, who is helping state lawmakers draft the bill. "It avoids the mistakes we've seen other states make, such as imposing arbitrary requirements on victims, like the existence of 'serious emotional distress' or 'personal identifying information,' or excluding from protection images taken by the victims themselves."
But First Amendment attorneys warn that revenge porn legislation, while well-meaning, might have unintended consequences on free speech rights.
"If the law goes beyond this specific prohibition against posting nude photos of someone without their consent, then you run the risk of unforeseen factual situations to which that legislation might apply that would violate the First Amendment," said Wayne Giampietro, a Chicago-based attorney and general counsel of the First Amendment Lawyers Association.
"The law ought to be very carefully and narrowly drawn. You have no idea to what kinds of concrete, specific situations the legislation might apply that might be different from this," he said.
UCLA Law Professor Eugene Volokh said people who take or allow others to take private photos of themselves put themselves at risk. But he believes a well-conceived law could pass Constitutional muster.
"The fact that you take a photo to share it with your lover doesn't mean that you are agreeing to let him show it to the whole world," Volokh said. "But of course there is this risk in allowing such photos to be taken."
For Jacobs, the drive to change the nation's laws has helped her triumph over an ordeal that would have defeated most people overwhelmed by self-blame.
"We have to shift the blame to the men that are maliciously distributing this material to ruin lives," Jacobs said. "If I can help just one other woman, then that is an amazing thing."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/12/florida-woman-victimized-by-nude-photos-fights-against-cyber-rape/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz2f9AZKCuf
I think Holly's being a bit single minded here, especially when we do have such a famous example over the malicious distribution of pornographic material causing a young man to suicide but her point is solid. When someone is taking malicious action against you there should be a form of legal redress or recourse for you. The distribution of this material is clearly targeted to hurt the individual shown in the photos of video's reputation and can have a significant impact on their careers. While there is certainly an argument to be made that one shouldn't do such things in the first place someone is still actively making a choice to target this individual and do damage to them. A mugging victim can do a lot to not get mugged when they walk home at night, but the mugger's choice to take malicious action against them is still a crime, even if they don't take the best path to walk home.
But this is Dakka OT, so culpabit victima!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 11:16:20
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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When a few opf these guys get stabbed in the neck for posting this stuff, it will moderate.
Wimminz, you know what to do.
(and by that I mean don't send pictures of yourself to anyone, ok maybe me).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 11:18:33
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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It can go both ways just as easy.
The real way to not fall victim to this is to not take silly pictures like that in the first place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 11:18:47
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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Revenge Porn is pretty much a sign of tiny dick syndrome but, gawd, I love a bit of victim blaming....
She shouldn't have ended their relationship and not been video/camera friendly.
Maybe it was her fault she got involved with an obvious doucher in the first place.
Her fault for being born...Is that cyber bullying? well if it she should toughen up abit.
Most of the bases covered there I think.
Seriously though are there that many insecure guys out there ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 11:27:01
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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n0t_u wrote:It can go both ways just as easy.
The real way to not fall victim to this is to not take silly pictures like that in the first place. 
Ding ding ding! We have our winner, and it only took three posts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 11:29:36
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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Revenge Porn is a big thing out there I guess. Doesn't really do it for me, it's not right. Not right at all. The men who do it deserve to be repeatedly dick punched.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 11:41:00
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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Goliath wrote: n0t_u wrote:It can go both ways just as easy.
The real way to not fall victim to this is to not take silly pictures like that in the first place. 
Ding ding ding! We have our winner, and it only took three posts.
If I were as stupid as them I probably would have been in the same position, I have no sympathy for the stupid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 11:50:25
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Goliath wrote: n0t_u wrote:It can go both ways just as easy.
The real way to not fall victim to this is to not take silly pictures like that in the first place. 
Ding ding ding! We have our winner, and it only took three posts.
Two posts. You need a Kindergarten math refresher. Automatically Appended Next Post: djones520 wrote:Revenge Porn is a big thing out there I guess. Doesn't really do it for me, it's not right. Not right at all. The men who do it deserve to be repeatedly dick punched.
recommended that too.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 11:52:47
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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I should have thought such cases could be prosecuted under a variety of existing laws, such as violation of copyright, issuing threats, menacing behaviour, harassment, and so on.
Many things that happen in the cyber world are just an updated version of an existing crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 11:58:14
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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And yet it doesn't seem to. It happens to women in far larger numbers.
It doesn't seem to matter how many times you tell people not to do this kind of stuff (nude photos over the net) they always think it is going to be someone else that gets burned.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 12:01:00
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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Kilkrazy wrote:I should have thought such cases could be prosecuted under a variety of existing laws, such as violation of copyright, issuing threats, menacing behaviour, harassment, and so on.
Many things that happen in the cyber world are just an updated version of an existing crime.
I think the difficult part would be proving who actually uploaded the photos. I've personally lost three phones in bars over the past two years, and if memory serves all three of them had scandalous pictures of my chick on them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 12:15:03
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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It would depend on the facts of the individual case.
In this case the supposed perp claims to have had his computer hacked into, and some third party did the deeds.
It would be fairly easy to examine his PC, his ISP records and cross-match with other relevant information to see whether he or a random third party was most likely to have done it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 12:16:23
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Shrug, I've had girls I was seeing send me nude photos. When the relationship ended, I deleted em. It's the courteous thing to do. Then again, not all peopls are willing to do something like that. I guess it comes down to trust. Sucks though. Hope they can strike a medium. Very sad for the guy who committed suicide especially.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 12:20:49
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Seaward wrote: Kilkrazy wrote:I should have thought such cases could be prosecuted under a variety of existing laws, such as violation of copyright, issuing threats, menacing behaviour, harassment, and so on.
Many things that happen in the cyber world are just an updated version of an existing crime.
I think the difficult part would be proving who actually uploaded the photos. I've personally lost three phones in bars over the past two years, and if memory serves all three of them had scandalous pictures of my chick on them.
I think we've all learned a valuable lesson today.
1. Seaward gets so hammered in bars, he loses his cellphone (and probably wakes up in a ditch in just his underwear).
2. Seaward parties harder than you do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 12:24:22
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Frazzled wrote:I think we've all learned a valuable lesson today.
1. Seaward gets so hammered in bars, he loses his cellphone (and probably wakes up in a ditch in just his underwear).
2. Seaward parties harder than you do.
I'm a sailor, pal. When I wake up in a ditch, it's stark raving naked.
I do lose/break a lot of phones, though. Dunno why.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 12:24:22
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timetowaste85 wrote:Shrug, I've had girls I was seeing send me nude photos. When the relationship ended, I deleted em. It's the courteous thing to do. Then again, not all peopls are willing to do something like that. I guess it comes down to trust. Sucks though. Hope they can strike a medium. Very sad for the guy who committed suicide especially.
>_>
So we're not supposed to keep those in our hard drive folders marked, "printer drivers" for future enjoyment?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 12:37:52
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And if I believed you, I would be the type of woman that would end up seeing those photos on the internet a few years later.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 13:09:45
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Ahtman wrote:
And if I believed you, I would be the type of woman that would end up seeing those photos on the internet a few years later.
Nah, you wouldn't. I'm a man of my word *insert insane Joker cackle here*
Seriously though, I've had a couple girls tell me they decided they didn't want those pics out, so I immediately deleted them. Haven't leaked a pic yet. And I had some pretty scandalous ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 13:14:16
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Frazzled wrote: Goliath wrote: n0t_u wrote:It can go both ways just as easy.
The real way to not fall victim to this is to not take silly pictures like that in the first place. 
Ding ding ding! We have our winner, and it only took three posts.
Two posts. You need a Kindergarten math refresher. 
Meh, I was including the OP in my post count. As in, it was the third post on the page.
Still, this stuff is bad. I'm all in favour of porn, but only when the people making it want to be making it, and consent to it being out on the interwebs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 13:15:37
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timetowaste85 wrote:Shrug, I've had girls I was seeing send me nude photos. When the relationship ended, I deleted em. It's the courteous thing to do. Then again, not all peopls are willing to do something like that. I guess it comes down to trust. Sucks though. Hope they can strike a medium. Very sad for the guy who committed suicide especially.
I've never seen why you wouldn't delete them... just asking for trouble with your next chick.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 13:21:37
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If my current relationship ever comes to an end..... we will have mutually assured destruction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 13:40:06
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Hallowed Canoness
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Suicide isn't the answer dude.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 13:43:41
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Isn't the entire point of moving on deleting everything that connected you to that person? But maybe I am just too reasonable of a human being to understand having vengeful thoughts of someone I have broke up with. But anyway.... The Revenge Pron thing is kind of silly on its own. Just sayin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 13:48:10
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If you have a problem with naked pictures of yourself getting out there, then don't send them to people plain and simple. Sounds like a classic case of trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube...
I don't work anywhere where people would care. I send pictures to my girlfriend all the time. I wouldn't distribute her pictures, but if we broke up, and she distributed mine, I'd thank her for the free advertising.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 13:55:08
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NuggzTheNinja wrote:If you have a problem with naked pictures of yourself getting out there, then don't send them to people plain and simple. Sounds like a classic case of trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube...
This really ^^
On the other hand, someone that does distribute "revenge porn", deserves to be dickpunchedbodyslammed repeatedly because he is ruining it for the rest of us!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 14:02:03
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I'd say this thread title was oddly prophetic... but we all knew this was going to happen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 14:08:44
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I really do not understand the mentality of someone who uploads nude pictures of his/her ex because the relationship ended. Just move on with you life and let the other person move on with theirs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 14:10:07
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Dreadclaw69 wrote:I really do not understand the mentality of someone who uploads nude pictures of his/her ex because the relationship ended. Just move on with you life and let the other person move on with theirs.
You've clearly not been chased by your girlfriend wielding a very large knife before. Ah sweet memories.
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Frazzled wrote:You've clearly not been chased by your girlfriend wielding a very large knife before. Ah sweet memories.
At this stage if a girlfriend was chasing me with a very large knife my wife may be a little bit upset, and be chasing us with a bigger knife sans Benny Hilly music
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 14:17:22
Subject: Revenge Porn aka the how many ways can we blame the victim thread
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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Dreadclaw69 wrote:I really do not understand the mentality of someone who uploads nude pictures of his/her ex because the relationship ended. Just move on with you life and let the other person move on with theirs.
Some relationships end... badly...
Open a newspaper and odds are that you'll find some news regarding a man or women that was killed by a vengeful ex, and you don't understand how someone could take revenge by posting nude pictures of their ex online?
If everyone took your advise and just moved on with their lives after a break up, divorce lawyers all over the world would find themselves without a job overnight! (and the world would be a better place for it)
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