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While Free to Play has it's upside, it also has it's downside as well. When playing a subscription game at least you know the other people are invested and try. While you can never get rid of jerks and/or total incompetents in an online game, it does tend to help weed them out a bit.

It is the difference between playing a cash poker game and a free one. In a cash game people actually try, whereas poker games with no stakes you have an obscenely high number of people who just go all in every hand no matter what cards.

The internet/planet is full of egotistical and arrogant people. P2P invests in the rich echelon of them with indifference to the poorer masses.

Its not a "gated community", its pick your posion.

 DemetriDominov wrote:
The internet/planet is full of egotistical and arrogant people. P2P invests in the rich echelon of them with indifference to the poorer masses.

Its not a "gated community", its pick your posion.

Pretending that there is no difference between having no stake in something and having a stake in something seems a bit obtuse. I never said there were not unpleasant people in either form, but the attitude a P2P takes to a game will generally be different from that of a F2P.

 Ahtman wrote:

Pretending that there is no difference between having no stake in something and having a stake in something seems a bit obtuse. I never said there were not unpleasant people in either form, but the attitude a P2P takes to a game will generally be different from that of a F2P.

I'll say that my own experiences in MMOs tend to lean toward both being equally full of donkey-caves, so you'll have to explain to me how to tell the difference in quality of jerk between the two. I've run guilds/clans/corps in most major MMOs with the exception of WoW, and I've found it's all pretty much the same whether f2p or p2p. or p2w for that matter.

 BaronIveagh wrote:
difference in quality

I did not make a qualitative statement, just that they tend to have different attitudes toward the community; do not conflate different with better or worse. People tend to treat things that cost them nothing differently then things that cost them something.