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Ok it's been a while but this is what I've come up with from the feedback of my previous thread:

125 - Librarian (Divination) Jump Pack
235 - Assault Squad (10) 2x Meltagun, Power Fist

230 - Tactical Squad (10) Meltagun, Multi-Melta, Rhino
230 - Tactical Squad (10) Meltagun, Multi-Melta, Rhino

This comes to 820 points now this is where I'm indecisive: (180 points left)

180 - Scout Squad (10) ML, 9x Sniper, 10x Camo Cloaks

075 - Sanguinary Priest (1) Jumpack
100 - Scout Squad (5) ML, Snipers, Camo Cloaks
Meltabombs on the assault sargent

Those are the two main options I'm considering. There is also the lascannon pred or a fragiroso in drop pod but neither really fit in with the tempo of the rest of the units, both would be high priority targets. The 10 man scouts would mean two combat squads sitting on out of the way objectives, always useful. With the second option its trading basically one 5 man scoring unit for FnP on 10 assault marines. I'm not sure if its worth it if I can play tactically and to cover......?

So what do you think? - Thanks!

Mephiston33 wrote:
Ok it's been a while but this is what I've come up with from the feedback of my previous thread:

125 - Librarian (Divination) Jump Pack
235 - Assault Squad (10) 2x Meltagun, Power Fist

230 - Tactical Squad (10) Meltagun, Multi-Melta, Rhino
230 - Tactical Squad (10) Meltagun, Multi-Melta, Rhino

This comes to 820 points now this is where I'm indecisive: (180 points left)

180 - Scout Squad (10) ML, 9x Sniper, 10x Camo Cloaks

075 - Sanguinary Priest (1) Jumpack
100 - Scout Squad (5) ML, Snipers, Camo Cloaks
Meltabombs on the assault sargent

Those are the two main options I'm considering. There is also the lascannon pred or a fragiroso in drop pod but neither really fit in with the tempo of the rest of the units, both would be high priority targets. The 10 man scouts would mean two combat squads sitting on out of the way objectives, always useful. With the second option its trading basically one 5 man scoring unit for FnP on 10 assault marines. I'm not sure if its worth it if I can play tactically and to cover......?

So what do you think? - Thanks!

Always go with the priest.

Ok thanks would you care to expand on your reasoning there please?

The priest is a force multiplier. It makes your assualt sqaud and liby more survivable.


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and hit harder.

Ok thanks, that makes sense, plus there's the 5 man scouts w/ ML anyway for an out of the way objective....

Any other ideas/options that I haven't considered?

Well, I'd give the Librarian shield and blood lance instead of powers from the rule book.
I'd replace the Rhinos by Razorbacks and add two Predators. This gives you four tanks giving cover fire.

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I'd give the Librarian shield and blood lance instead of powers from the rule book.
I'd replace the Rhinos by Razorbacks and add two Predators. This gives you four tanks giving cover fire.

And from where should the points come from? It's really not that good advice if you don't explain it well. Your suggestion takes about 250 points and therefore need something to be taken off.

As for the list: I'd change one Tac squad for Assault squad with flamers. THEN if you find the points (for example by taking off the single scout squad) you can combat-squad the remaining Tacs and give both sides Razorback or leave the other one for objective-babysitting.

125 - Librarian (Divination) Jump Pack
075 - Sanguinary Priest (1) Jumpack

235 - Assault Squad (10) 2x Meltagun, Power Fist
205 - Assault Squad (10) 2x Flamer, Melta bomb

285 - Tactical Squad (10) Meltagun, Multi-Melta, 2x Razorback
75 - Scout Squad (5) Snipers

This is what I'd run but I also like your current list. Take the priest instead of 5 additional scouts. Still, a single Assault squad will be crushed. 2 squads of 10 men is already a huge threat.
And with Assault marines, concider Codex powers. Shield of Sanguinius gives your squad 5+/5+ FnP against low AP-weapons and The Sanguine Sword makes your Librarian dangerous is challenges (or you can go with Unleash Rage)

 soomemafia wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I'd give the Librarian shield and blood lance instead of powers from the rule book.
I'd replace the Rhinos by Razorbacks and add two Predators. This gives you four tanks giving cover fire.

And from where should the points come from? It's really not that good advice if you don't explain it well. Your suggestion takes about 250 points and therefore need something to be taken off.

As for the list: I'd change one Tac squad for Assault squad with flamers. THEN if you find the points (for example by taking off the single scout squad) you can combat-squad the remaining Tacs and give both sides Razorback or leave the other one for objective-babysitting.

125 - Librarian (Divination) Jump Pack
075 - Sanguinary Priest (1) Jumpack

235 - Assault Squad (10) 2x Meltagun, Power Fist
205 - Assault Squad (10) 2x Flamer, Melta bomb

285 - Tactical Squad (10) Meltagun, Multi-Melta, 2x Razorback
how does he take 2 razor backs for 1 sqaud
75 - Scout Squad (5) Snipers

This is what I'd run but I also like your current list. Take the priest instead of 5 additional scouts. Still, a single Assault squad will be crushed. 2 squads of 10 men is already a huge threat.
And with Assault marines, concider Codex powers. Shield of Sanguinius gives your squad 5+/5+ FnP against low AP-weapons and The Sanguine Sword makes your Librarian dangerous is challenges (or you can go with Unleash Rage)

you can't take two razor backs for 1 squad.

I would give SPriest a power weapon -- his WS5 should not be wasted.

I think people need to realise that razorbacks can carry only 6 people... That's the difference between them and rhinos, allowing razorbacks to take an on board weapon system.

I'm not sure about switching a tactical squad for another assault squad. My goal is to create a more tactical army that has the blood angel theme, (I still want to use the BA codex not the new SM one). As far as I can see a BA tac squad has the same speed as an assault squad so the two rhinos should be able to flank the single assault squad, librarian and priest. Then I suppose the scouts allow the rest of the army can advance while holding an out of the way objective. Anyway that was my thinking......

Yes the SPriest should have a powersword but at 1000 points it has to be made an add on like meltabombs, if the points are avaliable.

We know RB only carry six - so why/how are you taking 2 for the 1 Tac Squad?

Lucarikx

Well there's a good question... Sorry guys, my brains decided to take a vacation

However, that leaves you with 55 points and now two squads on backfield (three if you keep the second Tac and give it a razorback as well).

But the tac squads have 10 men! Therefore the one tac squad is combat squadded and travel in the the two razorbacks.

I'm going to rethink this a bit....

Is there any other suggestions than razorbacks?

Heres the list at the moment. I haven't checked the points but maybe the two tac squads could untilise four razorbacks....?

125 - Librarian (Divination) Jump Pack
075 - Sanguinary Priest (1) Jumpack
240 - Assault Squad (10) 2x Meltagun, Power Fist, Meltabombs

230 - Tactical Squad (10) Meltagun, Multi-Melta, Rhino
230 - Tactical Squad (10) Meltagun, Multi-Melta, Rhino

100 - Scout Squad (5) ML, Snipers, Camo Cloaks

Update: Four razorbacks would end up at 1010 removing the scout squad. (This would be acceptable at my flgs)

the problem is you would have to drop them down to 5 man squads to get the razor backs. you can only buy one transport per squad.

Ahhh right thank you for telling me I didn't know that. Hmm that throws a spanner in the works.... Any suggestions? Thanks

Here is how i would run my 1000pt list.

--HQ---
Libby --- 125
JP

-----Elites---
Furioso --- 170
Heavy Flamer
Drop Pod w/ Storm Bolter

Sanguinary Preist - 105
JP
PW
Infernus Pistol

Sanguinary Preist - 105
JP
PW
Infernus Pistol

---Troops---
Assualt Squad --- 235
(10 Man)
Flamer
Flamer
SGT W/power weapon and Storm Shield

Assualt Squad --- 245
(10 Man)
Melta Gun
Melta Gun
SGT W/power weapon and Storm Shield


I personally Don't even bother running libbys anymore, but it seems you are set on using it. So give him powers from the blood angels list. (Shield and the one that gives him the STR 10 hit.)




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Other people are going to say this list is full of holes but try play testing it first. Similar lists work really well for me.

Ok will have a look at. I'm not set on a libby but everytime I suggest something else, the majority say the libby is better....?

Unless you want to take sanguinary guard as troops, then dante, or drop of a crazy killer mephiston from a stormraven, or run a dc astorath led maniac charge, or a footslogging/podding bravest of the brave tycho led army or an assasin of high calibre in the form of the sanguinor... none of these are ultra competative but i find ALL are much more fun tuan a libby... saying that... i usually take a libby :-p. (And NEVER a captain)

haha i usually take the chaplain. or dante been a fan of the sanguinary guard as of late.

Ok well what about a chaplain to lead the assault squad

155 - Reclusiarch (1) Jump Pack
235 - Assault Squad (10) 2x Meltagun, Power Fist

225 - Tactical Squad (10) Meltagun, Multi-Melta, Rhino
225 - Tactical Squad (10) Meltagun, Multi-Melta, Rhino

160 - Furioso Dreadnought (1) Frag Cannon/Blood Talons?

This looks quite fun, what do you think? Also if I built up past 1000 points then those tactical squads could be interchanged for other assault squads at will (though either with flamers or a power weapon) Do you think the Assault squad should have flamers instead? Then a thunder hammer and meltabombs could be given to the sarge......?

Personally i still fee l you need to fit a priest in there somewhere.



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but that list could work.

I suppose a priest would be beneficial but then 75 points for one model at 100 points is quite a lot. Previously I always had a priest in my lists on dakkadakka but in the list above i was surprised just how much more options I felt I had without having 75/150 points set away (plus the points for an HQ)

I would definitely include at least one at 1500 but not sure about before.....

up to your list.

Yeah i suppose so, but I value everyone's ideas on here.


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How would you suggest to get a priest in there while still keeping the majority of the units? Thanks