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 ClockworkZion wrote:
Also I'm at the point I'm going to start calling the "Order of Our Matryed Lady" the "Ultra Sisters" instead. Mostly because they get most of the special characters, and the majority of the studio's focus.....just like the Ultramarines.

Eh. At least nobody's gone around saying things like "all Sororitas Orders want to be like the Order of Our Martyred Lady", yet.

I'm hoping that a new codex will give the other Orders some attention. A Canoness from a different Order would be especially great.

Seraphim aren't really cross compatible with basic Sisters due to the jump packs and need for pistols out the bum.

Dominions on the other hand would be fine.


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 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Also I'm at the point I'm going to start calling the "Order of Our Matryed Lady" the "Ultra Sisters" instead. Mostly because they get most of the special characters, and the majority of the studio's focus.....just like the Ultramarines.

Eh. At least nobody's gone around saying things like "all Sororitas Orders want to be like the Order of Our Martyred Lady", yet.

I'm hoping that a new codex will give the other Orders some attention. A Canoness from a different Order would be especially great.

Cue "spiritual liege" being used in the next codex!

For gw's self interest hey better get these done before dreamforge releases their black widows.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Also I'm at the point I'm going to start calling the "Order of Our Matryed Lady" the "Ultra Sisters" instead. Mostly because they get most of the special characters, and the majority of the studio's focus.....just like the Ultramarines.

Eh. At least nobody's gone around saying things like "all Sororitas Orders want to be like the Order of Our Martyred Lady", yet.

I'm hoping that a new codex will give the other Orders some attention. A Canoness from a different Order would be especially great.

Can we not start this? That'd be great. There's enough derp in the Space Marine threads, I think we can keep it out of the SOB threads.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Cue "spiritual liege" being used in the next codex!

The Sisters already have a "spiritual liege": the God-Emperor of Mankind.

 Theophony wrote:
For gw's self interest hey better get these done before dreamforge releases their black widows.

I'm waiting for Sisters, not some 3rd part knock off, and I bet I'm not alone.

 pretre wrote:
Can we not start this? That'd be great. There's enough derp in the Space Marine threads, I think we can keep it out of the SOB threads.

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We're just joking around, bud. It's a fact that ML does get much more attention than any other Order. That's all that's being said.

To clarify, I do like Martyred Lady. My own Minor Order is derived from them, in fact. My only issue is the others not getting any real attention.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Cue "spiritual liege" being used in the next codex!

That wouldm't even be as weird in the context of the Sisters, anyway. They most likely would consider all of the original Sororitas Saints to be spiritual lieges, they'd just focus on their founding Saint and Dominica more than the others.

 pretre wrote:

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Also I'm at the point I'm going to start calling the "Order of Our Matryed Lady" the "Ultra Sisters" instead. Mostly because they get most of the special characters, and the majority of the studio's focus.....just like the Ultramarines.

Eh. At least nobody's gone around saying things like "all Sororitas Orders want to be like the Order of Our Martyred Lady", yet.

I'm hoping that a new codex will give the other Orders some attention. A Canoness from a different Order would be especially great.

Can we not start this? That'd be great. There's enough derp in the Space Marine threads, I think we can keep it out of the SOB threads.

I'm just trying to have fun with the obvious favoritism towards on particular sub-faction of our army is all. No need to get upset.


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 Troike wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Can we not start this? That'd be great. There's enough derp in the Space Marine threads, I think we can keep it out of the SOB threads.

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We're just joking around, bud. It's a fact that ML does get much more attention than any other Order. That's all that's being said.

To clarify, I do like Martyred Lady. My own Minor Order is derived from them, in fact. My only issue is the others not getting any real attention.

I'm planning on Argent Shroud myself. Just need some paints. And time. Lot's of time.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I'm planning on Argent Shroud myself. Just need some paints. And time. Lot's of time.

Ah, the paladin-esque Sisters. A nice choice. They've got some interesting fluff and a nice colourscheme.

I'll be going for Valorous Heart, myself. Their fluff of being over-repentant about the whole Vandire thing, and having an excess of Repentias, is both characterful and fittingly over the top.

Order of the Bloody Rose. I picked the color scheme long before there was a lot of fluff for them. Although, we do have Aspira as our Saint.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I'm planning on Argent Shroud myself. Just need some paints. And time. Lot's of time.

Ah, the paladin-esque Sisters. A nice choice. They've got some interesting fluff and a nice colourscheme.

I'll be going for Valorous Heart, myself. Their fluff of being over-repentant about the whole Vandire thing, and having an excess of Repentias, is both characterful and fittingly over the top.

My own made up order is derived from them as well. I like the repentant angle a lot. Very Medieval.

I based Our Lady of the Generous Heart Minor Order off of Saint Emillia from the Ciaphas Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM novels. Their color scheme is green, blue, and hazel, because I wanted something bright (my blog has a pic of one for the curious.)

But yeah, painting Sisters is time intensive. Fortunately dry-brushing is easy, it just takes forever.

Hoitash wrote:
I based Our Lady of the Generous Heart Minor Order off of Saint Emillia from the Ciaphas Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM novels. Their color scheme is green, blue, and hazel, because I wanted something bright (my blog has a pic of one for the curious.)

But yeah, painting Sisters is time intensive. Fortunately dry-brushing is easy, it just takes forever.

Argent Shroud isn't THAT bad since it's bolt gun and a black wash for most of it, but I want to do something to make the robes pop a bit more, as well as potentially putting their order's symbol on the robes as well.

Am I the only one with a custom order, and who never bothered naming them as descendant of any major order ?
I mean, they are no space marines, there is no genetic descent, so it doesn't even seem so implausible that some random cardinal or canoness just look through the Schola Progenium data, and notice “Hey, since the giant ork invasion on Tarsonis was barely repealed, there are many many orphans, most of which are pretty pissed, might be a good occasion to create a new order, let's just send in some instructor/higher echelon hierarchy over there”. In which case the local culture and the best member of the first recruitment are going to forge the new Order's identity just as much as the foreign elements. Which is admittedly not a lot, since all orders are supposed to be very close compared to IG regiments or SM chapters.

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:Am I the only one with a custom order, and who never bothered naming them as descendant of any major order ?
I mean, they are no space marines, there is no genetic descent, so it doesn't even seem so implausible that some random cardinal or canoness just look through the Schola Progenium data, and notice “Hey, since the giant ork invasion on Tarsonis was barely repealed, there are many many orphans, most of which are pretty pissed, might be a good occasion to create a new order, let's just send in some instructor/higher echelon hierarchy over there”. In which case the local culture and the best member of the first recruitment are going to forge the new Order's identity just as much as the foreign elements. Which is admittedly not a lot, since all orders are supposed to be very close compared to IG regiments or SM chapters.

I'm sure there are plenty of people with custom orders with that have no descent from the Major Orders, Just as there are plenty of custom 'First Founding' legions/chapters that people have. Most folks stick with an establish chapter/order and use the existing fluff, building off it rather than bypassing or creating something new though.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Am I the only one with a custom order, and who never bothered naming them as descendant of any major order ?
I mean, they are no space marines, there is no genetic descent, so it doesn't even seem so implausible that some random cardinal or canoness just look through the Schola Progenium data, and notice “Hey, since the giant ork invasion on Tarsonis was barely repealed, there are many many orphans, most of which are pretty pissed, might be a good occasion to create a new order, let's just send in some instructor/higher echelon hierarchy over there”. In which case the local culture and the best member of the first recruitment are going to forge the new Order's identity just as much as the foreign elements. Which is admittedly not a lot, since all orders are supposed to be very close compared to IG regiments or SM chapters.

ALL Orders Militant descend from a Major Order. It's actually a really big deal for them that they can all point back to that small little covent the Daughters of the Emperor hailed from and say that it's their spiritual birthplace.

And I was working on my own Minor Order, but gold is a right pain in the neck to paint well, especially with white robes. I was a bit too ambitious in what I was doing and just couldn't make it work like I wanted. So I shifted gears and picked a Major Order instead.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
potentially putting their order's symbol on the robes as well.

You get transfers of their symbols with Immos and Exorcists, enough for a ten woman squad. The arm robes would be a good place to put the transfer, and that's where the transfers go on the studio painted minis.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I mean, they are no space marines, there is no genetic descent, so it doesn't even seem so implausible that some random cardinal or canoness just look through the Schola Progenium data, and notice “Hey, since the giant ork invasion on Tarsonis was barely repealed, there are many many orphans, most of which are pretty pissed, might be a good occasion to create a new order, let's just send in some instructor/higher echelon hierarchy over there”. In which case the local culture and the best member of the first recruitment are going to forge the new Order's identity just as much as the foreign elements. Which is admittedly not a lot, since all orders are supposed to be very close compared to IG regiments or SM chapters.

Not quite how Minor Orders are made. In the fluff, they basically form when a detachment from a Major Order "settles down" somewhere, establishing their own identities whilst still being nominally under the control of their parent Order. They couldn't just found a new Order out of freshly made Sisters, since the way Novices graduate into Sisters is that they're "adopted" by a Superior from an existing Order.

But hey, if you want an Order of unknown descent, just say that they've forgotten who their parent Order was, though destruction of records, passage of time or isolation. Something like that. It'd make for interesting fluff, since such an Order would be in a unique position.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
potentially putting their order's symbol on the robes as well.

You get transfers of their symbols with Immos and Exorcists, enough for a ten woman squad. The arm robes would be a good place to put the transfer, and that's where the transfers go on the studio painted minis.

Yeah, I don't really dig it being there. And I've seen minis with the symbol on their front robe section, so it's not like it hasn't been done. Looks pretty decent too.

EDIT: GW art actually puts it in both places:



If I did the sleeves though I'd do both of them. It just looks off to me being only one sided like that.

Argent Shroud is my parent Order, and a close contender for my paint option, but the writer in me refused to use an established order, and I was worried my paint job wouldn't be worthy of the fluff.

Same reason I'm not going Scourged or Thousand Sons for my CSM. Heck, one of the things that drew me to orks first was their ease of painting.

I find transfer sheets kinda fiddly, but they do the job if you're careful.

I went with OoM as my "founding" order for my custom order, just liked the fluff, etc, and the color scheme.

Since the topic seems to be what order we play, mine is a desert-themed army that has been half forgotten on a desert planet that has been favoured by thousand sons. My sisters have been fighting skrimishes against the sons since the Emperor knows when, using mostly guerilla warfare tactics.

So I put it to you who have a better idea of the fluff than I do... is there any major order they would more likely be descendant from than the rest?

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Seraphim aren't really cross compatible with basic Sisters due to the jump packs and need for pistols out the bum.

Dominions on the other hand would be fine.

Oh you mean like how the GK power armor sprue has the teleporter backpacks and falchions out the wazoo?

Like that yeah? That'd be sooooooooo hard.



Oh wait. No its not. They can pack sprues tight nowadays

 HisDivineShadow wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Seraphim aren't really cross compatible with basic Sisters due to the jump packs and need for pistols out the bum.

Dominions on the other hand would be fine.

Oh you mean like how the GK power armor sprue has the teleporter backpacks and falchions out the wazoo?

Like that yeah? That'd be sooooooooo hard.



Oh wait. No its not. They can pack sprues tight nowadays

Cute. Next time pay attention to actual model asthetics. Seraphim have more going on in what they look like and how they're posed than a PA unit who is using some kind of teleporter instead of an actual jump pack.

COULD GW do it? Yes. SHOULD they? No.

I keep clicking on this hoping someone will have posted the release date of the digital dex.....So disappointed so far....

 Hulksmash wrote:
I keep clicking on this hoping someone will have posted the release date of the digital dex.....So disappointed so far....

We've got signs that it'll be this weekend.

Depends. If they are treating it like a supplement or like a digital transfer. Transfer = no real pre-order time. Supplement means a week pre-order. Fingers crossed you're right and it's this weekend.

 Hulksmash wrote:
I keep clicking on this hoping someone will have posted the release date of the digital dex.....So disappointed so far....

As long as I'm alerted, it will be in the thread title and OP when confirmed as is the usual practice on this site.

 Troike wrote:
I'll be going for Valorous Heart, myself. Their fluff of being over-repentant about the whole Vandire thing, and having an excess of Repentias, is both characterful and fittingly over the top.

Valorous Heart is mine as well. Have two units of Repentia though never had the nerve to use both together. The only time they have come seriously unstuck is against Noise Marines

 Hulksmash wrote:
Depends. If they are treating it like a supplement or like a digital transfer. Transfer = no real pre-order time. Supplement means a week pre-order. Fingers crossed you're right and it's this weekend.

Good point. Well either way we'll know when they're coming out this weekend!

Bloody Rose for me too:



BTW re the paint set mentioned on the last page - today every army gets a paint set.