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 Melissia wrote:

 Therion wrote:
The pictures of UFC athletes

You only used a male UFC athlete, and then claimed that women are the same.

Perhaps you should start another thread elsewhere if you really insist on making such unproven claims.

Ronda Rousey is the women's division's champion, and I provided a picture of her (and her previous challenger), therefore you're either lying or not paying attention. In short I've no idea what you're talking about right now, but my guess is that this is the quality of debate you try to maintain in order to increase your post count.

I predict the following.

Celestine will be more expensive. There's no way she's getting by at 115 pts again.

Sisters will be cheaper or overhaul of faith system will give them their pts worth of faith powers. Currently they are 12.5 ppm while Marines are at 14 ppm

Faith System will scale in some way, and the system will be slightly different and or more reliable.

Will most likely be touching on and making changes to : Confessors/Preists, Henchmen Squads, Cannoness, Celestians, Repentia and Penitent Engines.

I'm expecting the inclusion of some sister specific wargear as well.

They're not going to charge us $40+ for a rehash of the WD dex. I'm pretty sure of this.

 Therion wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 Therion wrote:
The pictures of UFC athletes

You only used a male UFC athlete, and then claimed that women are the same.

Perhaps you should start another thread elsewhere if you really insist on making such unproven claims.

Ronda Rousey is the women's division's champion, and I provided a picture of her (and her previous challenger), therefore you're either lying or not paying attention. In short I've no idea what you're talking about right now, but my guess is that this is the quality of debate you try to maintain in order to increase your post count.

TO THE MODS: How did my post get removed as spam yet all these pages are still here?

 Kreedos wrote:
I predict the following.

Celestine will be more expensive. There's no way she's getting by at 115 pts again.

Agreed, especially not with how she abuses "Slay the Warlord".

 Kreedos wrote:
Sisters will be cheaper or overhaul of faith system will give them their pts worth of faith powers. Currently they are 12.5 ppm while Marines are at 14 ppm

And models get over 30 with a heavy flamer. Marines at least balanced out by needing to pay for their weapons now, but still, the points are just too clost.

 Kreedos wrote:
Faith System will scale in some way, and the system will be slightly different and or more reliable.

I would love this.

 Kreedos wrote:
Will most likely be touching on and making changes to : Confessors/Preists, Henchmen Squads, Cannoness, Celestians, Repentia and Penitent Engines.

Henchmen squads? Do you mean Battle Conclaves?

 Kreedos wrote:
I'm expecting the inclusion of some sister specific wargear as well.

There is some stuff in 2nd and 3rd I'd like to see come back but I'm not putting money on this.

 Kreedos wrote:
They're not going to charge us $40+ for a rehash of the WD dex. I'm pretty sure of this.

Agreed. Maybe $30 USD.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
The sad part is, all GW needs to do is release one plastic SoB box for the basic squad, and they'll sell truckloads of them. I've been watching the SoB auctions on Ebay, but they end up being just a little too pricey for me to go in on them. But that's mostly because I keep spending money on my Red Scorpions space marine legion.

I will be getting the new ebook when it comes out.

Living in Canada, it coasts me around $100 to make ONE SoB troop choice. I would love to start a Sister's Army. I love their fluff and back story. But let's be honest here, thows modles are ancient and are starting to show their age. For that kind of money I could collect one of the Forgeworld armies such as DeathKorps of Krieg, Chaos Dwarfs, or even a HH army and end up with something alot nicer looking to show for it.

Personally I've found that I warmed up to their design after I'd been collecting them for a while. I mean, I never thought they were BAD, but I've gotten more accepting of their looks in time.

But that might be Stockholm Syndrome speaking.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Personally I've found that I warmed up to their design after I'd been collecting them for a while. I mean, I never thought they were BAD, but I've gotten more accepting of their looks in time.

But that might be Stockholm Syndrome speaking.

I love the design of the sisters of battle, it's more that the sculpts of the models that are starting to show their age, being that most of them came from 2nd ed.

I've painted enough to realize that most of the modles look more like "Drag Queens of Battle" instead of Sisters of Battle. Some of them have some REALLY mannish faces.

It's the models I was talking about. The art (for the most part) is fantastic!

I find myself in the unlikely position of feeling optimistic about the addition of relics. Cruddace did a good job (gasp!) with those in the new SM codex and I am hopeful some of that inspiration remained when he turned his hand to the Sororitas update.

And can people kindly shut up with the UFC and related discussion? Take it to the General forum, or wrestle it out between yourselves if you feel so strongly about it.

Anyone Notice in the Pic that the sister has the Inqusitorial I on her chest?

Tyrs13 wrote:
Anyone Notice in the Pic that the sister has the Inqusitorial I on her chest?

Actually that is the symbol of the adeptus ministorum which looks similar to the Inquisition but is slightly different.

If I'm right it is still the Adeptus Ministorum symbol. they are close in appearance though. here is a comaprison, the first one is the Adeptus Ministorum, 2nd the Inquisitor symbol

Tyrs13 wrote:
Anyone Notice in the Pic that the sister has the Inqusitorial I on her chest?

All branches of the Imperium (save the Marines) are represented by some variant of the Imperium "I" symbol. Sisters share theirs with the Ministranium (that is the Ecclesiarchy).

Most or many of the various Imperial organisations have the "I" as base, which I reckon stands for "Imperium". You can also see it on the Psyker minis, or rather their staffs - the Adeptus Astra Telepathica has an eye in it.

ClockworkZion wrote:All branches of the Imperium (save the Marines) are represented by some variant of the Imperium "I" symbol. Sisters share theirs with the Ministranium (that is the Ecclesiarchy).

The Imperial Guard and the Adeptus Mechanicus don't have an "I" either. I'm not sure about the Navy, but IG has a sword with wings, and the Marines have a skull with wings. It is interesting to note that the left shoulder pauldron on the Battle Sisters' Angel armour has wings as well, but with an "I" in the center. It might be the symbol of the Orders Militant, whereas the right pauldron bears the symbol of the Adepta Sororitas as a whole (the fleur-de-lis).

Edit: Got ninja'd like crazy while looking for those symbols!

 conker249 wrote:
If I'm right it is still the Adeptus Ministorum symbol. they are close in appearance though. here is a comaprison, the first one is the Adeptus Ministorum, 2nd the Inquisitor symbol

Yeah, it's closer to the first.

The "I" is often thought to be the Inquisitorial symbol (both starting with I of course), but the I is used in a large number of the Imperial symbols (maybe I = Imperial)

The Adeptus Astra Telepathica:
Adeptus Astronomica:
Adeptus Arbites:
Imperial Nave:

The majority of time most people see the "I" symbol is while playing with (or against) the Inquisition forces, so it's an easy mistake to make.

 Lynata wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:All branches of the Imperium (save the Marines) are represented by some variant of the Imperium "I" symbol. Sisters share theirs with the Ministranium (that is the Ecclesiarchy).

The Imperial Guard and the Adeptus Mechanicus don't have an "I" either. I'm not sure about the Navy, but IG has a sword with wings, and the Marines have a skull with wings. It is interesting to note that the left shoulder pauldron on the Battle Sisters' Angel armour has wings as well, but with an "I" in the center. It might be the symbol of the Orders Militant, whereas the right pauldron bears the symbol of the Adepta Sororitas as a whole (the fleur-de-lis).

Guard fall under the Administranium though, who I think does has an "I". But yes, the Adeptus Mechanicus doesn't use the I, but they're special.

ClockworkZion wrote:Guard fall under the Administranium though, who I think does has an "I". But yes, the Adeptus Mechanicus doesn't use the I, but they're special.

Technically, Space Marines are Administratum, too.

Come to think of it, I guess the Assassinorum doesn't have the I either...

 Lynata wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:Guard fall under the Administranium though, who I think does has an "I". But yes, the Adeptus Mechanicus doesn't use the I, but they're special.

Technically, Space Marines are Administratum, too.

Come to think of it, I guess the Assassinorum doesn't have the I either...

Everybody uses the I.

Unless they can kill you, then they can do what they want...

 d-usa wrote:
Everybody uses the I.

So in the Imperium do they say that a girl "wants the I" then?

Man euphemisms in 40k get weird.

On a more topical noted I'm almost, but not literally, dying just to see the pre-order on this thing.

It'd also be nice if GW: DE would just come out and tell us how much it costs.

 d-usa wrote:

 Lynata wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:Guard fall under the Administranium though, who I think does has an "I". But yes, the Adeptus Mechanicus doesn't use the I, but they're special.

Technically, Space Marines are Administratum, too.

Come to think of it, I guess the Assassinorum doesn't have the I either...

Everybody uses the I.

Unless they can kill you, then they can do what they want...

AdMech doesn't, probably due to their affiliation with the Cult of the Machine Spirit over the Imperial Cult

 Squidmanlolz wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Lynata wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:Guard fall under the Administranium though, who I think does has an "I". But yes, the Adeptus Mechanicus doesn't use the I, but they're special.

Technically, Space Marines are Administratum, too.

Come to think of it, I guess the Assassinorum doesn't have the I either...

Everybody uses the I.

Unless they can kill you, then they can do what they want...

AdMech doesn't, probably due to their affiliation with the Cult of the Machine Spirit over the Imperial Cult

And they can kill you, after they take all your guns and tanks away!

Well, the I-symbol doesn't have to do anything with the Ministorum or the Imperial Cult. I've not read much about the origins, but I'd assume that all those icons are way older than the Ecclesiarchy, which is pretty much the youngest of the big Imperial institutions.

Also, just about everybody can kill everyone in the Imperium, and has done so at various points in the timeline. Gotta love the politics.

 Kreedos wrote:
I predict the following.
Snip

They're not going to charge us $40+ for a rehash of the WD dex. I'm pretty sure of this.

I think you may have too much faith.

Adeptus Mechanicus is older than the Imperium itself, so maybe they're just using their original symbol instead of the I

 Lynata wrote:
Well, the I-symbol doesn't have to do anything with the Ministorum or the Imperial Cult. I've not read much about the origins, but I'd assume that all those icons are way older than the Ecclesiarchy, which is pretty much the youngest of the big Imperial institutions.

Hang on...the "I" doesnt just stand for the Imperium of Man? Awww damn, I was running under the assumption that the Imperium based organisations used the I with different additions (the eye for the Astropaths etc)

Though that might explain why the Ad-Mech use their dual Imp/Cog-God logo as they were pre-existing.

Apologies if this has been noted elsewhere, but I see that Kyrinov is gone from the webstore...

Like it how the sisters on the cover art finally have realistic... bodies as opposed to previous elements for art. Not to say that the old art wasn't bad.

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Apologies if this has been noted elsewhere, but I see that Kyrinov is gone from the webstore...

That happened a few months ago. Seraphim superior is also gone [not sure of any others].

Well, we can all agree on the obvious changes though?

-The saint will cost more. (unquestionably the most OP warlord in the game, and it won't stay that way.)
-Heavy bolters will cost more. (they are cheaper then anywhere else, and on a potentially rending platform its nuts.)
-Heavy Flamers will cost less. (they are more expensive then the new SM codex, and the same as the IG codex-where it is never used.)
-Cost per sister will get 1-2 points lower, unless faith rework is really extensive. (most basic infantry got a 1-2 point reduction lately, at times alongside a small buff)
-The new relics mentioned means that the Canoness (and maybe others) gets some new options.
-Altar of war is (so far) 3 non-mirrored missions who follows the army playstyle, and "hijack" the Eternal War missions.
-Penitent Engines will likely get cost reduction, or total overhaul.

-Warlord traits, so far the supplement-level ones are unimpressive, farsight for example have 2 of them being a direct downgrade of two from the "strategic" table, one who is merely a +1 to WS, 2 others mismatch the army, and only one was really good. other supplements did not have it much better.
I expect at least one, if not two of them will be faith related (reroll faith amounts, reroll faith activation, ways to gain faith, etc.). one-use traits are also popular in GW nowdays.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Well, we can all agree on the obvious changes though?

-The saint will cost more. (unquestionably the most OP warlord in the game, and it won't stay that way.)
-Heavy bolters will cost more. (they are cheaper then anywhere else, and on a potentially rending platform its nuts.)
-Heavy Flamers will cost less. (they are more expensive then the new SM codex, and the same as the IG codex-where it is never used.)
-Cost per sister will get 1-2 points lower, unless faith rework is really extensive. (most basic infantry got a 1-2 point reduction lately, at times alongside a small buff)
-The new relics mentioned means that the Canoness (and maybe others) gets some new options.
-Altar of war is (so far) 3 non-mirrored missions who follows the army playstyle, and "hijack" the Eternal War missions.
-Penitent Engines will likely get cost reduction, or total overhaul.

-Warlord traits, so far the supplement-level ones are unimpressive, farsight for example have 2 of them being a direct downgrade of two from the "strategic" table, one who is merely a +1 to WS, 2 others mismatch the army, and only one was really good. other supplements did not have it much better.
I expect at least one, if not two of them will be faith related (reroll faith amounts, reroll faith activation, ways to gain faith, etc.). one-use traits are also popular in GW nowdays.

Faith needs an absolute overhaul. And the living saint... I still have nightmares... Ate a laspred for 7 turns straight. Died every single turn.