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 wowsmash wrote:
That's interesting. What does horse taste like. I remember the news talking about selling it in the us until some people started freaking out. Is it have a similar flavor to beef or stronger flavor like lamb?

It does have a bit of a strong flavor. Although the only horse I had was sausage in Kazakhstan so it was probably old horse.

I personally don't know why there's such a big uproar over horse slaughtering in the US. How is it any different from cows or pigs? It wouldn't even be primarily for human consumption anyway, mostly animal food.

If I'm buying one from somewhere, generally a bacon double cheeseburger.

If I'm making my own, from scratch, I almost always go for a double quarter pounder, with a layer of Chorizo, a bacon weave, and two layers of extra mature cheddar, with a side of cheesy fries.

Because who needs to eat healthily?

 Grey Templar wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:
That's interesting. What does horse taste like. I remember the news talking about selling it in the us until some people started freaking out. Is it have a similar flavor to beef or stronger flavor like lamb?

It does have a bit of a strong flavor. Although the only horse I had was sausage in Kazakhstan so it was probably old horse.

I personally don't know why there's such a big uproar over horse slaughtering in the US. How is it any different from cows or pigs? It wouldn't even be primarily for human consumption anyway, mostly animal food.

I've eaten horse a few times, I'd compare it to fusion of well aged beef and mutton.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
The greatest fast food burger ever made is the glory of In N Out (Double double, animal style) and 5 Guys is a close second. Especially with their Cajun fries.

Don't burn me at the stake for heresy, but I honestly felt that Five Guys fries are better than their burgers. There is a local run bar near here that does the best burgers that I have ever tasted, they're so good I haven't had a burger since I was last there

A Five guys burger is dependent on two things1.) Toppings 2.) location.

1.) The Toppings make the burger at Five guys, the toppings add a lot to any burger but at Five guys they determine it's greatness

2.) I spent the later part of my teen years in Arlington, VA so I went to their first resturants pretty often, now when the franchise expanded and they went from the first 5 to across the dam country overnight the quality of the burger varied from location to location but the Fries always stayed the same.

But this thread is about Burgers

The best burger i've had in a while has to be the Royal Red Robin burger (That fried egg yummmmmm!)

 Necros wrote:
Never tried an egg on a burger.. i keep seeing it on TV a lot.. is it really that yummy? To me eggs have always been breakfast food so I never think of them for burgers that are (usually) lunch and dinner for me.

The fried egg adds SO MUCH flavor to the burger and if people on this site haven't had a burger with a Fried egg on it, you need to try it

Actually I just remembered one of my all time favorites was fathers burger from fathers office.

the 5 guys I used to go to was always pretty good.. but ever since I started watching Diners, Driveins & Dives I've been really, really bummed that there's just nowhere good near me :( the places they have on that show are super awesome and around here all we get are chains and the same old carbon copy pizza & chinese places. If I was rich I'd open the bestest burger joint ever.

I guess I'm gonna have to try this egg-on-a-burger thing one of these days

 Necros wrote:
the 5 guys I used to go to was always pretty good.. but ever since I started watching Diners, Driveins & Dives I've been really, really bummed that there's just nowhere good near me :( the places they have on that show are super awesome and around here all we get are chains and the same old carbon copy pizza & chinese places. If I was rich I'd open the bestest burger joint ever.

I guess I'm gonna have to try this egg-on-a-burger thing one of these days

You're half an hour from Philly... there's like 12 places that were featured on Triple-D.
http://www.flavortownusa.com/
run a search on your city you'll get some places.

Yeah, but they're all *in* philly. Yuck. I'd rather sit home in the burbs and complain about not having any good restaurants, then go to a good restaurant downtown. I hates it.

You also assume you'd have to be rich to open a burger joint. Really all you'd need is good credit, and of course a solid business plan and killer food.

Grey Templar wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:
That's interesting. What does horse taste like. I remember the news talking about selling it in the us until some people started freaking out. Is it have a similar flavor to beef or stronger flavor like lamb?

It does have a bit of a strong flavor. Although the only horse I had was sausage in Kazakhstan so it was probably old horse.

I personally don't know why there's such a big uproar over horse slaughtering in the US. How is it any different from cows or pigs? It wouldn't even be primarily for human consumption anyway, mostly animal food.

It is because we generally see them as pets and not as a food source. If they were a food source it would be different. Also they make a horrible food source (even for animal food) because they are much more expensive to feed and raise. Even though hay is used to feed both, horses need it dried, while cows are fed silage, which is fermented. Fermented grass will kill a horse.

My girlfriend is a big horse person (what with her fancy degree) and big into animal welfare, but even she is all for slaughter plants and for trying horse meat. It is on our list of things to try sometime.

Necros wrote:the 5 guys I used to go to was always pretty good.. but ever since I started watching Diners, Driveins & Dives I've been really, really bummed that there's just nowhere good near me :( the places they have on that show are super awesome and around here all we get are chains and the same old carbon copy pizza & chinese places. If I was rich I'd open the bestest burger joint ever.

I guess I'm gonna have to try this egg-on-a-burger thing one of these days

I am lucky in that 2 of the best burger places they have ever been to are only like 20 minutes away (I am biased). They have been to a bunch of other restaurants in the area too.

We are also the birthplace of the Jucy (or Juicy) Lucy. Lots of good places around here that make their own variety (the Nook being the best in my book)

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I use horse meat, mixed in with Montreal steak seasoning, and onion soup powdered mix.

Do they ration beef up in Canada as well!? remind me to never head that far north

I would pass on eating horse. Too close to them for too long. Funnily I've eaten dog and I suppose that wasn't too bad.

I have to admit I like the California burger with avocado and just about any cheese(prefer gouda though)

As for the fried egg burger. We have many awesome food joints in Baltimore, and I decided to try the fried egg burger at one of my favs. The egg was over medium which I love, but it just didn't taste right to me on a burger. It took too much away from the gourmet burger experience for me. It wasn't "bad" per se, just not the way I like my burgers.

GG

Horse is a bit more gamey than beef, for sure. But it is also a lot less fat. I don't know about price, I guess it varies locally, because here horse is just a bit less expensive, or around the same price as beef. I love horse meat in my meat loaf, burgers, pate chinois, anywhere really. A nice horse bavette (flank?) is also delicious on its own. And they are usually older horses indeed, no joke.

Even leaner is bison. But that almost tastes like deer or caribou.

I have to say I love my burgers spicy. Typically pepperjack, sriracha, Grilled jelepenos(Grill those puppies in butter and they get fiery) Grilled onions.
I also iscovered something amazing, Coleslaw on a burger

Apparently that is the rage at the moment, yes.

I'd insist on homemade slaw though. The stuff at the store is probably too soggy.

I like to make my burgers with lots of onion and garlic, with a bit of soy sauce.

Then have them on naan bread with lots of home-made red pepper aioli (made with lots of black pepper and sriracha sauce), chedder, lettuce, and bean sprouts.

It's almost euphoric.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Horse is a bit more gamey than beef, for sure. But it is also a lot less fat. I don't know about price, I guess it varies locally, because here horse is just a bit less expensive, or around the same price as beef. I love horse meat in my meat loaf, burgers, pate chinois, anywhere really. A nice horse bavette (flank?) is also delicious on its own. And they are usually older horses indeed, no joke.

Even leaner is bison. But that almost tastes like deer or caribou.

Can you just buy horse at any grocery store? Or do you have to go to special stores for that? Doesn't seem like something you'd just get off the shelf.

From south to north: 1/2 kaiser, lightly seasoned homemade patty, ketchup, cheddar, tomato, lettuce, mayo, 1/2 kaiser.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Lettuce, tomato, cheddar cheese, fried onions, pickles and a giant all beef patty. Katsup, and a little mustard and mayo. Mmmm.

The greatest fast food burger ever made is the glory of In N Out (Double double, animal style) and 5 Guys is a close second. Especially with their Cajun fries.

I actually think Five Guys is a step above In N Out, though I hear In N Out is better in Cali, than the ones in Texas.

I'm going to be having a Five Guys Burger this Friday for my "Cheat" meal. Can't wait!

 Sasori wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Lettuce, tomato, cheddar cheese, fried onions, pickles and a giant all beef patty. Katsup, and a little mustard and mayo. Mmmm.

The greatest fast food burger ever made is the glory of In N Out (Double double, animal style) and 5 Guys is a close second. Especially with their Cajun fries.

I actually think Five Guys is a step above In N Out, though I hear In N Out is better in Cali, than the ones in Texas.

I'm going to be having a Five Guys Burger this Friday for my "Cheat" meal. Can't wait!

Maybe its just the one where I'm at, but if I am going to pay as much for a full meal as I do at 5 guys, there are a bunch of restaurants I'd rather go to to get it than there. I seriously wish there was a Red Robin near me, but Tennessee sucks as a state and doesnt have any

 Fafnir wrote:
I like to make my burgers with lots of onion and garlic, with a bit of soy sauce.

Then have them on naan bread with lots of home-made red pepper aioli (made with lots of black pepper and sriracha sauce), chedder, lettuce, and bean sprouts.

It's almost euphoric.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Horse is a bit more gamey than beef, for sure. But it is also a lot less fat. I don't know about price, I guess it varies locally, because here horse is just a bit less expensive, or around the same price as beef. I love horse meat in my meat loaf, burgers, pate chinois, anywhere really. A nice horse bavette (flank?) is also delicious on its own. And they are usually older horses indeed, no joke.

Even leaner is bison. But that almost tastes like deer or caribou.

Can you just buy horse at any grocery store? Or do you have to go to special stores for that? Doesn't seem like something you'd just get off the shelf.

You can do both. But even the vacuum-packed horse meat at the grocery is pretty awesome. Any butcher will have horse on hand, though.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Horse is a bit more gamey than beef, for sure. But it is also a lot less fat. I don't know about price, I guess it varies locally, because here horse is just a bit less expensive, or around the same price as beef. I love horse meat in my meat loaf, burgers, pate chinois, anywhere really. A nice horse bavette (flank?) is also delicious on its own. And they are usually older horses indeed, no joke.

Even leaner is bison. But that almost tastes like deer or caribou.

I never liked horse personally. It seems to taste off to me.

Standard Aussie burger with bacon, without the fried egg.

Its heaven

http://www.blazingonion.com/menu?menu_page_id=Gourmet Burgers and Chicken

I cooked up pork belly burgers one time, on sourdough bun with some tomato relish, one of the best things I've ever eaten, but maybe it doesn't really count as a burger because you had to eat it with a knife and fork.


In terms of burgers you can eat like burgers need to be eaten, I don't think I've ever made the same burger twice Basically they always work out pretty good as long as you've got decent meat and a good bun, and from there you either go as salty and greasy as possible (some combination of bacon, cheese, egg, fried onions, jalapenos, and then you put on every condiment you have in the house) or light (some combination of lettuce, tomato, pineapple, beetroot, topped with tomato relish or possibly ketchup and mayo).

When I grill burgers I do a combo of ground Bison meat and 80% lean ground beef. Awesome

Lets see... if we're talking a standard burger I like lettuce, some onion, mustard, and mayo.

I am a fan of "western" burgers, with some onion strings and bbq sauce on them.

And I'll never turn down bacon on a burger.

As for the horse thing floating around, I've only had horse once. It was raw, served at a sushi bar. I had mistaken it for tuna (deep red color). I don't exactly recall what the flavor was like, but at the same time I was a bit mortified at what I had just done. Horses are a pet animal to me, and as such they are not to be consumed. I understand their value as food to other cultures, and don't begrudge that, but I just make the personal decision to not eat them, unless absolutely necessary.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:

 Fafnir wrote:
I like to make my burgers with lots of onion and garlic, with a bit of soy sauce.

Then have them on naan bread with lots of home-made red pepper aioli (made with lots of black pepper and sriracha sauce), chedder, lettuce, and bean sprouts.

It's almost euphoric.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Horse is a bit more gamey than beef, for sure. But it is also a lot less fat. I don't know about price, I guess it varies locally, because here horse is just a bit less expensive, or around the same price as beef. I love horse meat in my meat loaf, burgers, pate chinois, anywhere really. A nice horse bavette (flank?) is also delicious on its own. And they are usually older horses indeed, no joke.

Even leaner is bison. But that almost tastes like deer or caribou.

Can you just buy horse at any grocery store? Or do you have to go to special stores for that? Doesn't seem like something you'd just get off the shelf.

You can do both. But even the vacuum-packed horse meat at the grocery is pretty awesome. Any butcher will have horse on hand, though.

You'd probably have a better chance of finding something really weird, like Snake or Guinea Pig, than Horse in the US though. Stupid laws and stuff.

If I had to I could probably find any number of exotic meats fairly easily, but I wouldn't have the foggiest idea where to start looking for Horse.

Ostrich burgers are good, Bison was too lean for me.
Venison makes a good burger.

My favourite burger locally - we have an american diner not too far away. Unfortunately, we have the english version of an american diner (service takes forever, £10 for burger and chips, served by a grumpy waiter)
But the burgers are good - Cheese, Bacon, mushrooms, onion rings, bit of bbq sauce and 1/4 pound of fairly lean burger.
We have another american diner much nearer - the staff are all a lot happier, the food is cheaper and they do better milkshakes. I love bakewell tart milkshake. But the food is pretty much deathburgers (burgers served from a van at 4.30am outside a club...

Ostrich and Bison burgers are good but I prefer the classic beef patty. For home grilled I go for avocado and cheddar at minimum, with extras depending on mood. For commercial burgers I have to go with In-N-Out burger most definitely (California/Nevada/Utah/Arizona burger chain, voted best burger chain in the US)