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Seems that the various comparisons to the starships of other sci-fi settings have been unfairly balanced towards 40K.

This site has a chart of just about all of them. (Note: You will need a *really* big monitor to see it in full size)

http://std3.ru/4a/1b/1379725710-4a1b907105eb778df6c19974333f118c.jpg


Not going to post the actual picture, because I think it will break the forum software by forcing the page to be like 10 feet wide.

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Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagann beats anything 40k has to offer by a landslide, but then again it beats everything.

   
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Pic is missing the Phalanx, Roboute Guilliman's 22 kilometer flagship, and the Emperor's epic totally not compensating for micropenis starship that was the size of a country
   
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Shred City.

I didn't know a Kroot Sphere was so large. Them beaked tree people can build.

I like how the ultimate EvE ships are all so large. I used to think I was so cool with my Apoc back in the day. Ooohh, the memories.
   
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 Void__Dragon wrote:
Pic is missing the Phalanx, Roboute Guilliman's 22 kilometer flagship, and the Emperor's epic totally not compensating for micropenis starship that was the size of a country

Also, superstructures are not included in that and it annoys me.

   
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The list seems to be mostly ships that are still in service in their respective universes.

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 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
I like how the ultimate EvE ships are all so large. I used to think I was so cool with my Apoc back in the day. Ooohh, the memories.


Apocs were pretty cool. But me and my buddies in T1 frigs were way cooler when we popped your 100M ISK carebear battleship.

 
   
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 darthnatus wrote:
Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagann beats anything 40k has to offer by a landslide, but then again it beats everything.


Prettty typical of anime. Ridiculous proportions and no concept of scale is a trademark of the vapid Japanese genre...

And where is it claimed by anyone that 40k is the "biggest thing in the sky"? Two Star Wars ships are larger than the largest Imperial ships. And no where on here is the Dyson Sphere from ST:TNG Relics, nor the 2 Death Stars. The Imperium only makes up for the "lack" of size by the fact that there are hundreds of them. There were only 3 Super Star Destroyers and one Eclipse Star Destroyer; similarly, the Borg Cube is a mid-size on this chart, but there are thousands of them.

And where is the Space Hulk? Isn't it supposed to dwarf a Battleship? or The Rock?

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It misses out many of the largest ships. A Blackstone Fortress would dwarf everything on there, as would a death star.

I think the larger craftworlds would dwarf all of them.

And, ye, anything from anime dose not count. People say GW have no idea of scale, but at least they try.

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Gurren Lagaan intentionally told the scale to feth itself.

The World Engine and Iori Delta Tove are also considerably larger than anything on that list.
   
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 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
or The Rock?


Dwayne Johnsons there, he's just very, very tiny compared to a space ship

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 Pilau Rice wrote:
 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
or The Rock?


Dwayne Johnsons there, he's just very, very tiny compared to a space ship


Hah hah hah... I was referring to the Dark Angels' warp-equipped fragment of Caliban.
   
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I'm fairly sure a CSO-class Covenant SuperCarrier from halo is about 28km according to the Wiki.

I'm pretty sure its the big one from Halo Reach.



   
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Exactly how big is a craftworld anyway? Considering that the things can also grow in size too.

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Halo, Star Wars, 40k, the Culture, Star Trek, Mass effect

Amateurs I say!

You want big?




Star Ruler gives you larger than the arm of a god damn galaxy (and ridiculously more massive) big!

You could fit the fleets of every faction in the above six scifi universes and they'd still be microscopic in comparison.

Sheer scale means that all four universes working in concert would not be able to penetrate the hull of the ship, much less destroy it.

Of course Star Ruler was a needlessly complicated game that ultimately was full of wasted potential.

But building a ship larger than the entire game universe was not only doable, but actually fairly easy.

As a note: 40k ship sizes are extremely inconsistent.

The upper end interpretations put battleships at over 20 kilometers, low end at seven or under, average at about fourteen or so.

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 Void__Dragon wrote:
Pic is missing the Phalanx, Roboute Guilliman's 22 kilometer flagship, and the Emperor's epic totally not compensating for micropenis starship that was the size of a country


Dorn's ship, not Guilliman's .

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Nice find!

It's missing the quite iconic Retribution, as well as other battleship-class ships. Also Abbaddon's planet buster, which may tip the scales to the 40k side a bit. Still not the biggest around, though, but compared to other fictional universes, the 40k universe is consistently big. "Our" frigates and corvettes sit (un)comfortably amongst the heavy cruisers of Star Wars. Our ships of the line rival in size with the space monsters, gigantic battle platforms and superdreadnoughts of other universes.

It'd be wrong to attempt to rationalize it, but still each of those ships play a different role in their respective universes, some of them as narrative or worldbuilding devices, some as gameplay elements. In that sense, the ships of 40k all reinforce the notion that, in this universe, there's no shortage of resources, manpower, and, most importantly, time.



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Where the System Class GSVs at? One of those, 200km long, rocks into a roughly Earth equivalent system and DOUBLES THE POPULATION.

Population? Seven or eight billion. Crew? Seven. (Minds)
   
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 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
 darthnatus wrote:
Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagann beats anything 40k has to offer by a landslide, but then again it beats everything.


Prettty typical of anime. Ridiculous proportions and no concept of scale is a trademark of the vapid Japanese genre...

And where is it claimed by anyone that 40k is the "biggest thing in the sky"? Two Star Wars ships are larger than the largest Imperial ships. And no where on here is the Dyson Sphere from ST:TNG Relics, nor the 2 Death Stars. The Imperium only makes up for the "lack" of size by the fact that there are hundreds of them. There were only 3 Super Star Destroyers and one Eclipse Star Destroyer; similarly, the Borg Cube is a mid-size on this chart, but there are thousands of them.

And where is the Space Hulk? Isn't it supposed to dwarf a Battleship? or The Rock?

Nope all the primarch's ships were bigger than the Eclipse, and the emperor had his Texas sized pimp ship. This is also missing the planet sized craft worlds.

 
   
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Anyone know anything more about the Rak'Gol (I'm new so this was the first time hearing of them)? Was kind of surprised to find their ships on there but not Necrons or Tyranids. Were they from way back or a more recent race? What books are the featured in?

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Straight out of the package new to 40k models & gaming. Though know the lore pretty well. 
   
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 Cold wrote:
Anyone know anything more about the Rak'Gol (I'm new so this was the first time hearing of them)? Was kind of surprised to find their ships on there but not Necrons or Tyranids. Where they from way back or a more recent race? What books are the featured in?


http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rak%27Gol#.UkRcuYasjeg

From the FFG RPG "Rogue Trader".

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 Cold wrote:
Anyone know anything more about the Rak'Gol (I'm new so this was the first time hearing of them)? Was kind of surprised to find their ships on there but not Necrons or Tyranids. Where they from way back or a more recent race? What books are the featured in?


Rogue Trader: Edge of Abyss of Rogue Trader RPG by Fantasy Flight Games

OT: What, no Honorverse ships in chart?!

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The real question is how are over a thousand people living and working on a Galaxy class Federation ship when its only 642 meters long, and yet the interior shots show it being quite spacious.


 TheSaintofKilllers wrote:
 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
 darthnatus wrote:
Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagann beats anything 40k has to offer by a landslide, but then again it beats everything.


Prettty typical of anime. Ridiculous proportions and no concept of scale is a trademark of the vapid Japanese genre...

And where is it claimed by anyone that 40k is the "biggest thing in the sky"? Two Star Wars ships are larger than the largest Imperial ships. And no where on here is the Dyson Sphere from ST:TNG Relics, nor the 2 Death Stars. The Imperium only makes up for the "lack" of size by the fact that there are hundreds of them. There were only 3 Super Star Destroyers and one Eclipse Star Destroyer; similarly, the Borg Cube is a mid-size on this chart, but there are thousands of them.

And where is the Space Hulk? Isn't it supposed to dwarf a Battleship? or The Rock?

Nope all the primarch's ships were bigger than the Eclipse, and the emperor had his Texas sized pimp ship. This is also missing the planet sized craft worlds.


Of course those were all nearly all one off ships. Unique constructions of which there aren't multiple examples.

The ships shown in the picture are basic ships of the line for their respective factions.

Craftworlds are basically small planets.

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no eldar craftworld????

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 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
I didn't know a Kroot Sphere was so large. Them beaked tree people can build.

I like how the ultimate EvE ships are all so large. I used to think I was so cool with my Apoc back in the day. Ooohh, the memories.


The Warspheres are so large because they are both a warship and a colony ship.

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Would be one heck of a fight.....

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There's stats for the Warspheres in Rogue Trader as well.
   
 
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