Reaper Bones II: Closed at $3,169,610

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**lord_blackfang**

Is it just me or is Expansion 2 really, really lousy right now? $50 for 3 cavalry and 4 grunts?

**Vain**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Is it just me or is Expansion 2 really, really lousy right now? $50 for 3 cavalry and 4 grunts?

You mean like how Expansion 1 was, before it got boosted up by a fair few stretch-goals?

This is the very beginning of what it will become. I certainly wouldn't want to buy it just yet, but it is a visible way of showing what molds have been earmarked for creation by this kickstarter money.
Hell, if the kickstarted ended right now you might not get a single person to buy a Expansion 2, but there would still be the benefit that the molds would have been paid for so the company can sell them individually to people after the kickstarter ends etc.

Edit: That said, looking back at Update 28 or so, it is looking like the weedy younger brother compared to a Dragon + Extras.

**ced1106**

E2 will have *six* options total. It's already worth $15 - $20 retail.

Any thoughts on the second paint set? One backer mentioned the softer colors are good for basing. I'm not sure about the black and white, since I have these hobby color paints already?

**gunslingerpro**

fullheadofhair wrote:
I just made the decision to cancel. The core set just isn't appealing enough and doesn't seem to be getting better - I was tempted to stay in for a few dragons but in the end I thought better of it.

I may not be far behind you. Especially after hearing the AVP rumors from Prodos.

**Sasori**

Yeah, I'm sure expansion 2 will pick up as time goes on. I do wish they had included a little more to get people to start backing it sooner.

That said, I really loved expansion one, so I don't think this one will be any different!

**JWMarines**

I feel like the expansion sets should be more single themed. I like the undead in the first expansion, but I don't care for anything else in it.

**Krinsath**

JWMarines wrote:
I feel like the expansion sets should be more single themed. I like the undead in the first expansion, but I don't care for anything else in it.

Kind of where I'm at on the expansion as well; really like the Barrow Wardens, don't have much interest in hardly anything else in there. I think there's just enough in the core set to keep me in, but even it's on the edge at the moment.

I'm sure the crazy final day will improve that though.

**highlord tamburlaine**

Eh, we got some generic town guards and a few random cavalry. Reaper said it themselves that they're going to dole out the stretches to fill this expansion to create a bit more momentum (and less of us whining about things not moving).

When all is said and done there will be plenty in this expansion.

Are there more figures yet this time around compared to the first campaign?

**nkelsch**

Will they itemize the bonus packs too? I want a few of the models of the 50$ part 1.

**Hulksmash**

I'm getting pretty meh about it but there is while left so I'll stick around to the end and see if it's still worth it to me or not depending on how my hobby is going at the moment

**czakk**

A deal on paint and some bone cavalry. I'm happy. And some shorter stretch goals coming up as well.

We need the thread title updated again

**Sway**

As much as I don't understand people waiting to pledge until late in the game, I really REALLY don't understand people dropping out this early.

Whether or not you think the deal is worth it right now, the deal is only going to get better. Dropping out on the last day is no different for your wallet than dropping out right now. So why give up your earlier ship date? Dropping out because there aren't enough of a certain type of figure seems crazy. For all you know the last dozen stretch goals will be the exact models you wanted.

**JWMarines**

Sway wrote:
As much as I don't understand people waiting to pledge until late in the game, I really REALLY don't understand people dropping out this early.

Whether or not you think the deal is worth it right now, the deal is only going to get better. Dropping out on the last day is no different for your wallet than dropping out right now. So why give up your earlier ship date? Dropping out because there aren't enough of a certain type of figure seems crazy. For all you know the last dozen stretch goals will be the exact models you wanted.

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Also, I don't think they'll do piece-meal offerings for things in the expansion sets as it might remove the incentive for people to pick those up. I figure the main reason there are set expansions is so that they can have them packed up at the manufacturer just like the base pledge box and it will make shipping calculations and pick/pack/ship easier once everything is in Texas. I do wish they would, even if it costs more per figure to get them separately. The zombies look pretty great.

Exp2 looks like it could get interesting if they don't put too much random crap in it.

**Sean_OBrien**

czakk wrote:
A deal on paint and some bone cavalry. I'm happy. And some shorter stretch goals coming up as well.

We need the thread title updated again

Had an early morning - so didn't have a chance to update it before I left for work. All done now.

nkelsch wrote:
Will they itemize the bonus packs too? I want a few of the models of the 50$ part 1.

The word is, yes. The will likely do that around the same time that we move to Expansion #2 - bit of time finalizing graphics and double checking math on costs, plus loading that new data into the pledge calculator thing.

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Eh, we got some generic town guards and a few random cavalry. Reaper said it themselves that they're going to dole out the stretches to fill this expansion to create a bit more momentum (and less of us whining about things not moving).

When all is said and done there will be plenty in this expansion.

Are there more figures yet this time around compared to the first campaign?

More figures total - yes, I think so already (would need to recount...but it is pretty close if not). However, the Core package is lower by a good bit still. RIght now there are 140 or so in the core while KS1 finished with 200+ in the core. This one has more add-ons though, which increase the total figure count by a good bit - plus you have the Expansions to the Core which are their own sets.

Even more than the actual figure count though is the sizes. These are generally much bigger than the first time. That first campaign had a lot of things which were smaller than people - this one, not so much. Even the smallest figure this time is still about people sized in a round about way.

Sasori wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure expansion 2 will pick up as time goes on. I do wish they had included a little more to get people to start backing it sooner.

That said, I really loved expansion one, so I don't think this one will be any different!

Bunches - assuming my first set of mumblings were correct, this will be a wargamer friendly expansion - both as a way to get some of those things in without upsetting the RPG crowd as well as a way to gauge the wargamer's interest in Bones. Expect to see more like what is there now in terms of more cavalry and sets of figures which are more slanted towards multiples versus single heroes and monsters. Granted they do flex and bend - so those bits I had gathered from a week ago may be different now.

**Krinsath**

Yeah, I see no reason at all to give up my early bird shipping slot before the last day. It might happen in the final hour or so once the full extent of the core set is more or less revealed, but I *think* there will be just enough in there to be worthwhile.

And if not, one pledge disappearing during the last-day surge will hardly be noticed.

**Sean_OBrien**

And since it hasn't been done yet...

Update #43

Oct 14, 2013

$1,687,000 Achieved!

Expansion One fully unlocked!

And next we're adding Under the Sea to your Core Set!

But what's after Under the Sea?
How about another set of Paints? These 12 NEW colors were formulated for our Master Series Paint HD line to work with Bones, and an expanded new color palette.
Once Funding is reached, you'll be able to add these new colors for just $18.

Oh! But wait! There's more!
It's been a while since we've added two things at once, so here we go!

This is the opening shot for this Expansion Pack - we'll continue to add more to it as future goals are met! We're opening up with 3 new cavalry models - Ursula, Dwarven Bear Rider, Heroic Crusader Sir Herne, and The Dark Count Lorenth. And adding to the pile is assortment of our Town Guard - perfect for soldiery, militia, mercenaries, or any fighting force! They come equipped with Bow, Crossbow, Spear,or Sword, and are ready to stand watch over the battlements against the demons and dragons you've already unlocked, plus the vile things you know we have coming!

To make it easier for you to track, dark purple images will be added to your Core Set, light purple are Extra copies of those rewards, ochre ones are Expansion 1, orange ones will be available as additional rewards simply by increasing your pledge, and the new Expansion set is on a Blue background! If it gets overwhelming the Pledge Claculator can help you keep track of it all at https://ks.reapermini.com/ It saves your pledge, so you don't have to remember what you werepledging for, but it;s flexible enough that you can make changes to your pledge at any time!

Follow along with us on the map, as Mister Bones goes Trick-or-Treating, and be sure to follow us on twitter @Reapermini, talk about the Kickstarter using #ReaperBones, Like us on FaceBook, and join our forums at reapermini.com/forum to join in the conversation!

THANK YOU!

~Reaper

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-ii-the-return-of-mr-bones/posts

The paint deal is something which I would not be surprised if it gets picked up heavily...more than Reaper might be expecting it to. Those HD paints are pretty popular, and this is a pretty cheap way for people to stockpile them. At $1.50 each, I don't think any of the discounters come close to that price.

Of course you also have cavalry, which is something that people have been wanting to see for quite awhile.

**czakk**

That dwarf on a bear is going to fight my Tre Manor goblin on a bear.

Another little mini stretch goal:

Once again we've drawn a Trick- another surprise miniature added to your Core Set!
This time, It's Trick-or-Treat Mr. Bones! If we can reach $1,745,000, every Core Set gets a our little mascot added - there's no need for you to do anything else!

To help you calculate your pledge, you can use this link: https://ks.reapermini.com/ Simply register or log in, and start playing around! It won't permanently lock in your choices at this time, it's a tool to help you calculate your pledge and (if applicable) postage.

To make it easier for you to track, dark purple images will be added to your Core Set, light purple are Extra copies of those rewards, ochre ones are Expansion 1, orange ones will be available as additional rewards simply by increasing your pledge, and Expansion Set #2 is on a Blue background! If it gets overwhelming the Pledge Claculator can help you keep track of it all at https://ks.reapermini.com/ It saves your pledge, so you don't have to remember what you werepledging for, but it;s flexible enough that you can make changes to your pledge at any time!

Follow along with us on the map, as Mister Bones goes Trick-or-Treating, and be sure to follow us on twitter @Reapermini, talk about the Kickstarter using #ReaperBones, Like us on FaceBook, and join our forums at reapermini.com/forum to join in the conversation!

THANK YOU!

~Reaper

**Sean_OBrien**

That dwarf on a bear is going to fight my Tre Manor goblin on a bear.

Might have to call for reinforcements on your goblin...Reaper has another 3 bear cavalry which might show up as well...

At least that would fit with the mumblings I have heard. Not sure if they would be included in the overall master plan of trying some units out...but it would make sense as they are some of the more popular cavalry options that Reaper does.

**czakk**

I think my goblin is in trouble....

More dwarf riders would be awesome. I didn't know they had 3 more sculpts.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Tre's got another bear and goblin combo if you can find them

that would make it a fairer fight at least

**Bolognesus**

I can't find even the first goblin/bear Tre Manor combo, if I'm being honest. Got a link? It certainly sounds good.

**czakk**

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2s4X37CYAI6Xd0.jpg:large
http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2013/5/20/644d4ab8daef3c34ba655cbecf37087a_61721.jpg

I have some other photos kicking around, I'll try to dig up.

By coincidence, the gnoll in that photo is being bonesified in this kickstarter.

**Wehrkind**

Sean_OBrien wrote:
That dwarf on a bear is going to fight my Tre Manor goblin on a bear.

Might have to call for reinforcements on your goblin...Reaper has another 3 bear cavalry which might show up as well...

At least that would fit with the mumblings I have heard. Not sure if they would be included in the overall master plan of trying some units out...but it would make sense as they are some of the more popular cavalry options that Reaper does.

I keep reading "goblin" as 'groin'. It has made the last few posts... yea, I'll say better

I definitely had to scroll up to see what was actually being discussed, though.

**Bolognesus**

czakk wrote:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2s4X37CYAI6Xd0.jpg:large
http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2013/5/20/644d4ab8daef3c34ba655cbecf37087a_61721.jpg

I have some other photos kicking around, I'll try to dig up.

By coincidence, the gnoll in that photo is being bonesified in this kickstarter.

Thanks, looks rather nice. Is it available anywhere? the gobbo being naked isn't optimal but that can be helped

**frozenwastes**

Well, I'm in. A friend of mine got in on the first hour of the KS and I'm just going in with him and we'll split shipping/customs charges.

**ced1106**

I thought I asked already, but any thoughts on the 2nd paint set?

**Sean_OBrien**

ced1106 wrote:
I thought I asked already, but any thoughts on the 2nd paint set?

I generally like Reaper's paints, and that includes the HD line. They are designed as a high coverage base paint, and they do the part well. Even when thinned down for airbrushing, they seem to cover faster than regular paints. These particular colors are new, so I havent had a chance to try them, but the rest have been quite good...especially when doing base coat work in those tough colors like yellows and reds.

For another point of view...

http://taleofpainters.blogspot.com/2012/02/review-reaper-master-series-hd-paints.html

http://flamingtales.blogspot.com/2011/04/reaper-high-density-paint.html

**Azazelx**

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Eh, we got some generic town guards and a few random cavalry. Reaper said it themselves that they're going to dole out the stretches to fill this expansion to create a bit more momentum (and less of us whining about things not moving).

When all is said and done there will be plenty in this expansion.

Are there more figures yet this time around compared to the first campaign?

Not sure, but with two $50 expansions, it's no longer an apples-to-apples comparison. It's kinda like $200 vs the $100 in Bones 1.

Someone posted this just over a half-hour ago:

REAPER BONES II Kickstarter
(totals include all announced minis, providing goals are met)
Base Pledge: $100
Includes: 30 new Bones miniatures ($60 if purchased separately here) plus 24 bonus (existing) figures (total of 54 miniatures).
Unlocked, free add-ons:
Heroes I: 6 new minis ($8 separately)
Dungeon Monsters: 5 new minis ($7 separately)
Pathfinder Heroes I: 6 new minis ($8 separately)
Gnolls & Bugbears: 6 new minis ($9 separately)
Shambling Dead: 9 new minis ($10 separately)
Dungeon Decor I: 8 new minis ($6 separately)
Beast Mode!: 5 new minis ($7 separately)
Pathfinder Heroes II: 6 new minis ($8 separately)
Bully For You: 2 new minis ($10 separately)
Lesser Demons: 5 new minis ($10 separately)
Sylvan Creatures: 4 new minis ($8 separately)
Savage Worlds: 8 new minis ($10 separately)
Pulp Action: Chronoscape: 8 new minis ($10 separately)
Swamp Things: 6 new minis ($8 separately)
Dragon Hatchlings: 4 minis ($10 separately)
Pathfinder Villains: 5 minis ($8 separately)
Bag O' Bases: 2-ounce pack of 1-inch round bases (approximately 50 bases) ($10 separately)
Under the Sea: 5 minis ($10 separately)
Trick or Treat, Mr. Bones: 1 mini ($1 separately)
Total minis included in $100 pledge: 153 (price each: 65 cents) plus the bases
Optional Add-ons:
$12 Narthrax Dragon (1 huge mini)
$10 Lords of Darkness (6 minis)
$10 Mouslings (10 minis) ---- MAY NOT GET THIS
$15 Unleash the Kraken! (1 huge mini)
$10 Oh, Rats! (5 small + 1 large mini = 6 minis)
$10 Heroes & Villains (6 minis)
$12 Greater Demons (2 huge minis)
$10 Gelatinous Cube (1 huge mini + skeleton base + 2 smaller pieces = 4 minis)
$10 Hill Giants (2 huge minis)
$15 Demon Lords (2 huge minis)
$10 Dungeon Decor II (8 minis) ---- WOULD REALLY LIKE AT LEAST TWO OF THIS
$50 Core Set Expansion 1 (Includes (Step 1: 1 huge silver dragon + 5 derro + 3 hordlings + 4 huge minis (mountain troll, dragon tortoise, stone giant, giant scorpion) + 10 more (3 Egyptian avatars (huge Avatar of Sokar, Avatar of Thoth, Avatar of Sekhmet) + 2 lions (male & female) + 5 zombies) + (1 huge Goroloth + 1 ice troll + 3 mushroom men + 3 barrow wardens + 2 kobold leaders + 2 goblin leaders + demi-lich + 2 cultists and summoning circle) = 39 total minis in expansion ($1.28 per mini in this expansion)
$10 Blightfang (1 huge dragon)
$10 Devils (5 minis)
$10 Water Elementals (4 minis)
$10 Cinder (1 huge dragon)
$15 Verocithrax (1 huge thin dragon)
$50 Core Set Expansion 2 (Includes: (Step 1: 1 dwarf rider on bear, 1 knight on horse, 1 count on horse, 4 town guardsmen): Total 7 minis (unless riders come off, then 10 minis) + more at $2,160,000 and another 5 steps after that) = 7 total minis in expansion ($7.14 per mini in this expansion)
Total add-ons (1 of each): $279
Total minis included in add-ons (1 of each): 106
GRAND TOTAL: $379 (1 of each) (total of 259 miniatures at $1.46 each plus bases)
Note: Just pledging $150 for core and expansion 1 (total of 192 miniatures at 78 cents each) plus the bases
Note: Just pledging $150 for core and expansion 2 (total of 160 miniatures at 94 cents each) plus the bases
Note: Just pledging $200 for core and both expansions (total of 199 miniatures at $1.01 each) plus the bases
Optional: Master Series Paint (12 HD bottles) $18
(includes: 29801 Crimson Red, 29806 Fireball Orange, 29809 Pale Saffron, 29811 Turf Green, 29815 Dragon Blue, 29820 Gem Purple, 29822 Suntan Flesh, 29823 Caucasian Flesh, 29827 Griffon Tan, 29830 Ruddy Brown, 29832 Concrete Grey, 29828 Woodland Brown)
Optional: Master Series Paint (12 HD bottles) Option 2: $18
(includes: 29839 Maroon Red, 29840 Garnet Red, 29841 Witchcraft Purple, 29842 Solid White, 29843 Solid Black, 29844 Blue Flame, 29845 Gilded Yellow, 29846 Spruce Green, 29847 Rich Indigo, 29848 Jungle Camo, 29849 Umber Brown, 29850 Elfin Flesh)
Optional: Cases ($30 each)
SUPER GRAND TOTAL (1 of everything) (total of 259 miniatures, 24 paints, 1 case plus bases): $445

So this one works out quite a lot more expensive than the first one, and that's without the international postage element at play. Not sure if I'll stay in or not, since if I stay I'd like to get one of everything excepting the cases and we know that even more paid add-ons will be added, and probably not a lot more to the core.. (actually, I'd like to get two, but that ain't gonna happen). I guess I'll decide literally on the last day. Until then, my $100 pledge without postage added can ride.

**carlos13th**

gunslingerpro wrote:
fullheadofhair wrote:
I just made the decision to cancel. The core set just isn't appealing enough and doesn't seem to be getting better - I was tempted to stay in for a few dragons but in the end I thought better of it.

I may not be far behind you. Especially after hearing the AVP rumors from Prodos.

Do you mind elaborating on the AVP rumors?

Thanks.

**Azazelx**

Here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/556916.page