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 Psienesis wrote:
'Flects are a similar concept to warp-dust. A physical object of normal origins (in the case of 'Flects, it's window glass) that is, by whatever means, soaked in the essence of the Warp and takes on Chaotic/Daemonic properties. Though 'Flects are used in the Abnettverse as a drug, I wonder what sort of divinatory functions it might present if used in a more-controlled manner.

Also, Abnettverse has obscura, in both pipe and injector (syringe) form. Now, if that isn't crack in SPPAAACE! i don't know what is.

It's actually a heroin equivalent, I think?

I seem to remember it being described as a gummy, tarry substance... which is very much akin to opium, and one of the street names of heroin is "tar".

ETA: Also, I'm not sure how popular, or even widely-known, crack cocaine is in England, Abnett being English. I do know that heroin has been a problem in the UK for decades now, though.

 Psienesis wrote:
I'm not sure how popular, or even widely-known, crack cocaine is in England

It's around, apparently. Not that I'd know personally, but I've heard of it.

Ah, well, there we go then.

I mean, it's a space-drug, obscura, so if one wants it to be space-crack, then more power to them. The description of it (either from Eisenhorn or from Dark Heresy, which Abnett contributed heavily to) just reads as heroin to me... especially considering that it can be mainlined, where crack cannot be.

You seem to know a lot about drugs mr. Psienesis

Talk to Matt Ward, he can get you some.

 Psienesis wrote:
It's actually a heroin equivalent, I think?

I seem to remember it being described as a gummy, tarry substance... which is very much akin to opium, and one of the street names of heroin is "tar".

Yeah, probably. While all my knowledge of class A drugs comes from video games and movies, I thought of space-crack because of the pipe aspect and I simply think of "crack-pipe" before "heroin-pipe". It's also possible that Abnett simply based obscura on several/all of IRL class A narcotics.

ETA: Also, I'm not sure how popular, or even widely-known, crack cocaine is in England, Abnett being English. I do know that heroin has been a problem in the UK for decades now, though.

Oh it's known all right... I know for a fact that students in my year while I was at high school (several years ago, now) were using it. Besides, thanks to western entertainment media, I'm sure most Brits know of it thanks to video games and movies. Just like me.

 DarthMarko wrote:
You seem to know a lot about drugs mr. Psienesis

Let's just say I've been around awhile and I've been around the block more than a few times.

Obscura is 100% unequivocally heroine in spaaaaaace. Every description of it from it's delivery systems, physical appearance to it's effects line up directly with real world opiates. What's more, opiates were a scourge across the British Empire and is obscura makes a nice analog as a empire wide vice.

On the subject of crack though, there are TONS of stimulants found all over 40k, with most of them not even seeming to be illicit in Imperial culture. Stimulants like frenzon seemed to be used oftern in the IG much like amphetamines were used all over during WWII ( and by housewives in the fifties, and by mods in the 60's and in major league baseball in the seventies...)

I can't really recall but also the crap they pump into arco-flagelants really seems like a dissociative like PCP/angeldust. Back in the 90's my cousins used to love to smoke sherm (ciggarettes or joints dipped in pcp) and it definetly granted them a 5+ feel no pain.

Heck, let's not even get on to Eversor Assassins, who are addicted to rage-inducing combat stims, perhaps inspired by the Nazis taking Meth.

Not only Nazis.... the US Military has been suspected of/known to test/deploy various "combat drugs" on its soldiers, either covertly or overtly.

So hey uhm, I'm totally resurrecting a dinosaur here with this thread but I have a theory no one else seemed to present.

"Warp Dust" from the Trials of Draigo thing; like the Flash itself, anything within it (more or less) is subject to the same conclusion, in that it is not canon.

However~

There is a canon drug called "Glimmerdust":

"Cultivated from the nests of Glimmerwings on Q'Sal, this highly addictive drug fortifies the user against the machinations of Psykers."

Side Effects : Whilst under the influence of Glimmerdust, everything appears blindingly bright and more colourful than usual. The Heretic suffers a -30 to all Perception Tests until the drug wears off.


My theory is, like drugs IRL there could be potential nicknames and variables. (Like Mary Jane for Marijuana, as one example) As this drug comes from the Screaming Vortex, it is to no surprise that someone (especially someone whom isn't native) would refer to it as ____Dust. ...So let's see, it looks like dust, and it's from the Warp... ...Oh I know, Warp Dust. *SNORTS*

It has the most relative side effects of any other drug (from what I know anyway) and the name alone, in my mind, pegs it as the most probable relative to this whole Warp Dust thing.


I hope this helps!

Well, in the sons of dorn book it mentions pink dust-ash being left behind when you kill daemonettes.

If that counts, this might be the warning label.

Warning: Do not attempt to inhale this product. It may result in heresy, loss of soul, enslavement to false gods, ultramarine fanboyism, hard rock, vibrant colors, daemonic possession, tyranid-necron co-operatio, the book of lorgar and EXTERMINATAS.

 Psienesis wrote:
Ah, well, there we go then.

I mean, it's a space-drug, obscura, so if one wants it to be space-crack, then more power to them. The description of it (either from Eisenhorn or from Dark Heresy, which Abnett contributed heavily to) just reads as heroin to me... especially considering that it can be mainlined, where crack cannot be.

No but cocaine can be. Cooking in to crack or getting ready to mainline gets rid of all impurities and makes a pure cocaine form. So it's effectively the same only the bioavailability mainlined is higher.

Heroin would be a very effective combat drug in small doses. Probably more so than amphetamines or crack. If the dose was even slightly too high though it would be very negative and would cause "fading out". If the dose was small enough not to cause fading it would give an energy and mood increase while allowing the body and mind to still operate at peak levels.

I have worked with people in recovery for many years and the people who hide it well are the ones who know what doses to take in what situations and the ones who can't hide it are the ones who get blasted all the time. Interestingly enough the ones who hide it well tend to have more self control and succeed in recovery more often.

 Psienesis wrote:
It is the raw stuff of Chaos that leaks into realspace via portals or the appearance of daemons, or found on worlds that are lost to Warpstorms. It is very much a real thing, in the setting.

Very similar to the fragments of glass found in the Ravenor or Eisenhorn series, I forget which. While they probably have very different effects, they are of essentially the same substance.