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Agreeing with pretre here. The problem with their AoF, Seraphim are really good anti-infantry, and the IP kinda pulls them in a direction they don't really get a lot out of.

I might try them in, say, apocalypse games where I could use assets for accurate deep strikes, but that's about it.

Inferno Pistols cost too much. A small squad of Sisters with Meltaguns inside a transport are just as mobile and packs more firepower.

Yeah. I agree. I was thinking of using them for monstrous creature hunting because of shred. But dominions would probably be better at that role.

Thanks for the quick responses!

I run triple Exorcists and triple mech Dominions with 4 Meltaguns each. No problems whatsoever against MC unless they are flying or have invisibility on them.

 SabrX wrote:
I run triple Exorcists and triple mech Dominions with 4 Meltaguns each. No problems whatsoever against MC unless they are flying or have invisibility on them.

Yep. MC's get sad when they see SOB. Or they should.

If you got MC problems, I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems and a Riptide ain't one.

I ran IP for awhile, but they were seldom effective. Their range is just so short and everytime I did manage to land them within. 3" of an enemy vehicle, it just exploded in my face and cost me 1-2 seraphim (which is a bad trade if the vehicle was a rhino).

While not so much a tactical thing, I do need to give one of my Immolator and the Doms inside a gold star. This weekend, they tank shock in from outflank onto 20 enhanced Necron Warriors, who bolt off the board and the Doms nuke Czeras.

Doms fix problems.

 curran12 wrote:
While not so much a tactical thing, I do need to give one of my Immolator and the Doms inside a gold star. This weekend, they tank shock in from outflank onto 20 enhanced Necron Warriors, who bolt off the board and the Doms nuke Czeras.

Doms fix problems.

Yep Doms and Exos; keeping the dream alive.

the problem i have with the doms... is they give up first blood so easily... First blood really is the bane of my existence when it comes to 40k.

But honestly they are a super good unit for the cost

How does a unit that starts off the board give up first blood? Shouldn't they be sweeping in, blow up some enemy vehicle and claim first blood?

Mavnas wrote:
How does a unit that starts off the board give up first blood? Shouldn't they be sweeping in, blow up some enemy vehicle and claim first blood?

What?

Doms do one of two things: 1) Scout up and nuke something. 2) Outflank and nuke something.

This changes depending on whether you get first turn or not. If you put them on the board, scout them forward and you don't get first turn, you're going to lose them.

More of a problem was/is Scouring points.

I prefer to outflank my doms. I find that the psychology of "my big stuff feels safe in the corner" or "I am safer flanking than going down the middle" plays well into outflanking Doms. The only person in my meta who has really beat this is a Nid player who devotes tons to centering and protecting his venomthropes.

 curran12 wrote:
I prefer to outflank my doms. I find that the psychology of "my big stuff feels safe in the corner" or "I am safer flanking than going down the middle" plays well into outflanking Doms. The only person in my meta who has really beat this is a Nid player who devotes tons to centering and protecting his venomthropes.

Really? I find the turn 1 alpha strike is well worth having them on the board (if you go first, of course). You can just eliminate a good chunk of your opponents army.

I think that becomes a matter of playstyle, then. I generally try not to rely on alpha strike ability, as you said it relies on you getting the first turn or stealing. My larger battle plans usually involve me baiting and drawing out the strikes with units that can soak up damage and not give up first blood (my usual 2k list puts 3 20-woman strong squads on the table with 2 exorcists with 2 Doms and Seraphim in reserve). They can take firepower and draw the enemy forward and then, come turn 2-3, the reserves hit and I usually can partially encircle the dangerous parts of the opponent and destroy them.

I wouldn't say I rely on it. If I get first turn, I'll use it though...

Of course. I didn't mean to give that impression. More that I've come to like a counterattack mindset.

I think this is mostly a result of my meta, which tends to have more aggressive players. Combine that with the general sense of underestimating Sisters and I've found that most opponents (barring Guard and the more static Tau forces) are eager to get in and engage, thinking Sisters easy prey. I like capitalizing on that.

 curran12 wrote:
Combine that with the general sense of underestimating Sisters

I like it when they perk up, after you've revealed you're T3 and they get all excited. Mind you, this is when they're shooting at you with things like Plasma or Autocannons which would be wounding Marines on 2's anyway... Then they automatically assume their AP3/2/1 weapons straight up kill your models. It's always fun to tell them to "hold the fk up - 6+ Invuln suckers". And then roll all 1s, but whatever lol.

GoonBandito wrote:

 curran12 wrote:
Combine that with the general sense of underestimating Sisters

I like it when they perk up, after you've revealed you're T3 and they get all excited. Mind you, this is when they're shooting at you with things like Plasma or Autocannons which would be wounding Marines on 2's anyway... Then they automatically assume their AP3/2/1 weapons straight up kill your models. It's always fun to tell them to "hold the fk up - 6+ Invuln suckers". And then roll all 1s, but whatever lol.

There's nothing quite like it when you make that invul on one of your vehicles. The look on your opponents face: priceless.

Or when three battle sisters attack a riptide in melee and tie it up for 3 turns because you keep rolling 6s.

I've just entered a escalation league with my girls. First game is in 2 days.

I always like saying "My whole army has an invulnerable save. Yes even the vehicles."

First games of 7th too

I'd like to praise the only exorcist tank I own: its weapon got destroyed first turn, yet it survived till the end of the game ramming an armoured sentinel to scrap in the process

I've only played one game with my Sisters (last Saturday); however, I often play against Tau and IG so low AV is a no go regardless of army. This made me go straight in for Repressors over Rhinos. More expensive but they get front AV13, Heavy Flamer, Storm Bolter, smoke and a dozer blade (plus the usual 6+ invul). That front AV increase made a big difference.

I also just spent £130 to get up to 1000 points of Sisters (was half real, half proxy on Saturday). They're not cheap when running a lot of vehicles.

As for the weapon destroyed - I added Storm Bolters to both my Exorcists to give them a 50/50 chance of not losing the main weapon.

 Hoitash wrote:

GoonBandito wrote:

 curran12 wrote:
Combine that with the general sense of underestimating Sisters

I like it when they perk up, after you've revealed you're T3 and they get all excited. Mind you, this is when they're shooting at you with things like Plasma or Autocannons which would be wounding Marines on 2's anyway... Then they automatically assume their AP3/2/1 weapons straight up kill your models. It's always fun to tell them to "hold the fk up - 6+ Invuln suckers". And then roll all 1s, but whatever lol.

There's nothing quite like it when you make that invul on one of your vehicles. The look on your opponents face: priceless.

It's even better when they only keep 1 spare Las Cannon to get your rhino, and 2 turns in a row it gets 6s and then the unit inside kills said lascannon.

This just last Saturday in a league =P

Its awesome when the 6++ comes up at "those" moments

Plus people are just not expecting it

 pretre wrote:
That's a neat list. What was the bastion for though? And no specials for the SOB squads?


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 Josey4u wrote:
Just getting into them, so it was mentioned on using the immolater for repentia. Is the immolater and assault vehicle? As in special rule type

SOB don't have any assault vehicles.

But you can easily ally in a Land Raider Crusader via 1 Inquisitor and Warband(ranged).

Deploy the Dedicated Transport on it's own and embark on turn 1. Multiple ways of doing so, and unless you went second, you would not charge turn 1 anyway....

ShaneTB wrote:
I've only played one game with my Sisters (last Saturday); however, I often play against Tau and IG so low AV is a no go regardless of army. This made me go straight in for Repressors over Rhinos. More expensive but they get front AV13, Heavy Flamer, Storm Bolter, smoke and a dozer blade (plus the usual 6+ invul). That front AV increase made a big difference.

I also just spent £130 to get up to 1000 points of Sisters (was half real, half proxy on Saturday). They're not cheap when running a lot of vehicles.

As for the weapon destroyed - I added Storm Bolters to both my Exorcists to give them a 50/50 chance of not losing the main weapon.

Totally agree on repressors. They are a great unit for SOB.

Totally disagree for Storm Bolters. But we've had that discussion maaaany times in this thread.

I was thinking of this for 1000pts

Celestine

3x squads of 5 with 2 flamers and the Superior has a combi and melta bombs in rhino's

Squad of domms in a immo with a TL MM

Full squad of seraphim with hand flamers the Superior has melta bombs

2 exo's with storm bolters

Looking at semi competitive take all list. I knows there will be lots horde armies (orks and tyranids)


I was thinking the bss stay in their rhino burning things out of the fire points. Celestine hangs out with the seraphim causing trouble. Domms do their thing and the exo's form a fire base.

 BlackTalos wrote:

 pretre wrote:
That's a neat list. What was the bastion for though? And no specials for the SOB squads?


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 Josey4u wrote:
Just getting into them, so it was mentioned on using the immolater for repentia. Is the immolater and assault vehicle? As in special rule type

SOB don't have any assault vehicles.

But you can easily ally in a Land Raider Crusader via 1 Inquisitor and Warband(ranged).

Deploy the Dedicated Transport on it's own and embark on turn 1. Multiple ways of doing so, and unless you went second, you would not charge turn 1 anyway....

IIRC in seventh you can start embarked on allied transports.

The problem is not starting inside an allied transport, but about starting inside a dedicated transport.

The only unit that can start inside a dedicated transport is the unit that purchased it and codex inquisition cannot buy land raiders other than through a dedicated transport.

Bit of an odd question, are people finding themselves using flamers less since 7th edition?