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Angelic Adepta Sororitas




Los Angeles, CA

Wow this repressor is nuts ! It's the missing link, the armored messiah, !
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





I can't seem to find the stats anywhere. I'm hoping I won't have to buy the book for one page.
   
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Fixture of Dakka






What book is it in for FW? Adeptus Astartes or Astra Militarum?

   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Got my books today and I've been pouring through them.
It looks like we might be able to squeeze a brigade into 2500pts.

HQ - Celestine, 2x cheap Canoness
ELITE - 3x Imagifier/Hospitaller/Diagolus
FAST - 2x Doms in Immos, min squad of Seraphim
TROOP - 6x BSS in 3x Rhinos
HEAVY - 3x Exorcists

This will just fit in 2500, upgrades permitting. If I've crunched my numbers right.

Update to my idea from earlier. A 9 strong Dominon squad, and a Canoness, with maxed stormbolters, (6). In a Rhino with 2 more. The squad has 32 shots close range, doubles to 64 with AoF, plus 8 from the Rhino makes 72 shots from one round of shooting, rerolling 1s to hit. Comes to 240pts.

Optimal use of points? Probably not, but the look on the opponents face when 10 sisters and a rhino roll 72 dice in one shooting phase, with rerolls!
   
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator





You can squeeze a Brigade into a lot less... though, they wouldn't be that good. I'm still trying to see how I can sneak in a guard super heavy with full sponsons and elite support. Mostly it involves not having enough points to let Celestine play forward :( Also 72 heavy bolter shots each turn (with 2x AoF).

I never got to actually play around with the Castellans of the Imperium, but it's OK because now you can just make Imperium detachments.
   
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Umm, so Celestian, Seraphim, Dominion and BSS superiors all get +1Ld. Retributor superiors however, do not. This seems strange to me. Possible typo?



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I like the idea of getting 2 min squads of BSS in a Rhino. I plan on running 3 Rhinos full. How would you equip them? Here's some options im thinking of.

2x squads with Combi flamer, flamer, hvy flamer (burn baby!)

2x squads with Combi melta, storm bolter, hvy flamer (take all comers loadout)

1x squad with combi flamer, flamer and hvy flamer, 1x squad with 2 stormbolters and hvy bolter. (flame squad jumps out and rushes, bolter squad takes cover)

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I think the only thing flamers are good for is overwatch. They put out an average of 3.5 hits at 8" or less. A Stormbolter puts out 2.66 hits at that range and is still useful from 8.1" to 24" and costs much less.

Flamers got more consistent, but lost their ability to ignore cover and got more expensive. I don't think it's justified given how close you have to get to the enemy to use them. (I guess it would be even less so if we could pay only 2 points for a stormbolter like marines or inquisition.)

edit: Obviously combi flamers and heavy flamers are different (and more expensive).

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Mavnas wrote:
I think the only thing flamers are good for is overwatch. They put out an average of 3.5 hits at 8" or less. A Stormbolter puts out 2.66 hits at that range and is still useful from 8.1" to 24" and costs much less.

Flamers got more consistent, but lost their ability to ignore cover and got more expensive. I don't think it's justified given how close you have to get to the enemy to use them. (I guess it would be even less so if we could pay only 2 points for a stormbolter like marines or inquisition.)

edit: Obviously combi flamers and heavy flamers are different (and more expensive).


Those are great points. So youre saying you would generally take SBs over flamers now? How would you kit out 2x BBS in a rhino? I reckon full flamer squads rushing forward unloading and eating charges could still be effective.

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Angelic Adepta Sororitas




cant put hospitaller in the repressor with the Retributors and Cannoness :(. Bummer dude
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Could i get a rules clarification? Imagifiers roll for thier 4+ AoF at the start of the turn, ie. before the movement phase. They cant use thier ability from inside a transport. So an imagifier riding with a squad in a transport wont be able to use the 4+ AoF ability on the same turn they bail. Am i correct in my interpretation?
   
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Angelic Adepta Sororitas





Started a new thread for 8th edition as this 1 is so long
   
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Badass "Sister Sin"






Camas, WA

Mods can we shut this one down and move to https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/729085.page

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