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Please grade the following lists on a scale of 1 to 10. With 1 being "friendly games only" and 10 being "tournament competitive"

List 1
2000 Pts - Tyranids Roster - Gargoyles

HQ:
1 Hive Tyrant, 260 pts (TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms x2; Wings)

1 Hive Tyrant, 260 pts (TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms x2; Wings)

Elite:
2 Hive Guard Brood, 100 pts
2 Hive Guard Brood, 100 pts

Troops:
1 Tervigon, 180 pts (Cluster Spines; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs)
10 Termagant Brood, 50 pts

Fast Attack:
20 Gargoyle Brood, 140 pts (Toxin Sacs)
20 Gargoyle Brood, 140 pts (Toxin Sacs)
20 Gargoyle Brood, 140 pts (Toxin Sacs)

Heavy Support:
1 Trygon, 210 pts (Toxin Sacs)
1 Trygon, 210 pts (Toxin Sacs)
1 Trygon, 210 pts (Toxin Sacs)

Total Roster Cost: 2000


List 2
2000 Pts - Tyranids Roster - Ravener

HQ:
1 Hive Tyrant, 270 pts (TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms x2; Toxin Sacs; Wings)

1 Hive Tyrant, 270 pts (TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms x2; Toxin Sacs; Wings)

Elite:
3 Hive Guard Brood, 150 pts

Troops:
10 Termagant Brood, 50 pts
10 Termagant Brood, 50 pts
1 Tervigon, 185 pts (Cluster Spines; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst)
1 Tervigon, 185 pts (Cluster Spines; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst)

Fast Attack:
6 Ravener Brood, 210 pts (Rending Claws)

Heavy Support:
1 Trygon, 210 pts (Toxin Sacs)
1 Trygon, 210 pts (Toxin Sacs)
1 Trygon, 210 pts (Toxin Sacs)

Total Roster Cost: 2000

 Akaiyou wrote:
Please grade the following lists on a scale of 1 to 10. With 1 being "friendly games only" and 10 being "tournament competitive"

List 1

4 Barely nothing scoring. @ 2000 points unless your opponent is not very observant you'll lose 5/6 games

List 2

6 More scoring, still very scary. Trygons are typically easily dealt with though. Again @ 2000 points most opponents will have the tools to deal with these. However, dealing with 7 MCs will not be easy.

like list 1 but the Hive guard feel out of place in the list. I would drop at least on brood. Beef up the trevigon to 3 powers, and add a buffthrope. Keep the momma protected and don't rely on her synapse to keep things moving forward. Use he buffthrope for that.

If the rumors will be correct, and flyrants make gargoyles troops, than the first one could be feasible, like 6/10.

For list 2, I doubt Raveners wil earn their point value. To make your opponents life harder, drop raveners and 1 trygon, take Hive Commander on your warlord, make one trygon a prime, and add Doom of Malantai in a pod, and 20 devilgants (who join the prime)

These are lists for the current codex dunno why you'd take into consideration a codex that hasn't arrived yet but please only comment based on current version of the rules.

Also im NOT looking for suggestions seems that roxor was the only one that actually read the post.

Thanks anyway

Tyrpak wrote:
If the rumors will be correct, and flyrants make gargoyles troops, than the first one could be feasible, like 6/10.

For list 2, I doubt Raveners wil earn their point value. To make your opponents life harder, drop raveners and 1 trygon, take Hive Commander on your warlord, make one trygon a prime, and add Doom of Malantai in a pod, and 20 devilgants (who join the prime)

Even so, who's letting you join a Trygon to a unit of devilgants?

Think he meants using the Trygon's tunnel ability to bring gaunts in from reserve.

List #1 maybe a 6. More gargoyles = more annoying.

List #2 about a 7. More scoring = more balance.

In my books, the more balanced army is the more competitive one.