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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 12:32:13
Subject: The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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....and other mysteriously mislaid body parts
http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/oct/21/presidents-brain-missing-mislaid-body-parts
President Kennedy isn't the only famous person to have lost a body part after death; Einstein, Beethoven and Galileo are among many others who rest in pieces
Who stole JFK's brain? It has been a mystery since 1966 when, three years after the president's assassination, it was discovered that his brain, which had been removed during the autopsy and stored in the National Archives, had gone missing. Conspiracy theorists have long suggested the missing organ would have proved Kennedy was not shot from the back by Lee Harvey Oswald, but from the front.
The latest theory puts forward a less juicy cover-up – James Swanson, author of a new book on the assassination of Kennedy, suggests the president's brain was taken by his younger brother Robert, "perhaps to conceal evidence of the true extent of President Kennedy's illnesses, or perhaps to conceal evidence of the number of medications that President Kennedy was taking".
Kennedy is just one of a number of famous people whose body parts were taken, either for good or dubious purposes. Brains have long held a fascination, particularly for people wanting to study the secrets of the intelligent, talented and powerful. After Albert Einstein's death in 1955, his brain was removed and studied by pathologist Thomas Harvey, much of it sliced and mounted on hundreds of slides, many of which have been lost. The Moscow Brain Institute collected and studied the brains of many prominent Russian scientists and thinkers, most famously that of Lenin.
Joseph Haydn's head was stolen from his grave by two men, motivated by their interest in phrenology, the belief that insights could be had from feeling the shape and size of the head, the skull eventually finding its way to the Society of the Friends of Music in Vienna, more than 80 years after his death. It was reunited with the rest of his remains in 1954. When Beethoven died several years after Haydn, and with the interest in phrenology still booming, there were similar concerns, with one gravedigger claiming he had been offered a thousand florins to "deposit the head of Beethoven in a certain place". However, the composer didn't escape unscathed – during his autopsy, one doctor took his ear bones, locks of hair were clipped, and when his body was exhumed later in the 1800s, fragments of his skull were taken.
What is reputed to be Mozart's skull – tests have been inconclusive – is held at the International Mozarteum Foundation in Salzburg; it is his skeleton that is missing, since he was buried in a grave that was dug up and reused some years after his death in 1791. Thomas Paine's remains are also lost. In 1819, 10 years after the pamphleteer's death in New York, the journalist William Cobbett brought his bones back to England, with the idea that he would be interred in an impressive tomb, though this never happened; people all over the world have claimed to own a part of Paine. Napoleon's body parts are also thought to be scattered – intestines allegedly belonging to him were held in London and destroyed during a bombing raid during the blitz, but his penis is believed to be owned by the daughter of John Lattimer, a New Jersey urologist (he was also the doctor brought in by the Kennedy family to review JFK's autopsy evidence) who bought it at an auction in 1977.
In some cases, remains turn up years later. In 2009, two of Galileo's fingers and a tooth were rediscovered. Removed by admirers, rather like holy relics, 95 years after the astronomer's death, they had last been seen in 1905 before resurfacing and being brought to the Museum of the History of Science in Florence. The museum, now called the Galileo Museum, was already home to another of Galileo's fingers.
those of you of an age may recall...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 13:09:49
Subject: Re:The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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[DCM]
Crazed Bloodkine
Baltimore, Maryland
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Napoleon Bonapartes penis was sold in auction and now resides in New Jersey?
Learn something new every day.
And a quick google search reveals that someone actually wrote a book about Napoleons littlelest soldier and its many journeys and adventures.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 13:22:14
Subject: The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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There was a sketch on Spitting Image in the 1980s in which President Reagan's brain went missing and wandered around the USA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 13:43:19
Subject: Re:The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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Hulking Hunter-class Warmech
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NELS1031 wrote:Napoleon Bonapartes penis was sold in auction and now resides in New Jersey?
Learn something new every day.
And a quick google search reveals that someone actually wrote a book about Napoleons littlelest soldier and its many journeys and adventures.
I remember reading somewhere that Rasputin's penis was removed and kept pickled in a jar for years...
It now resides in a museum IIRC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 15:58:00
Subject: The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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I wonder how many republicans this thread will lure in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 16:17:14
Subject: Re:The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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Huge Hierodule
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Conspiracy theorist think Kennedy's brain was stolen as a cover-up? I probably shouldn't be surprised, but seriously? I know enough about ballistics (and woodworking) to know that, with bullets or drills, there is a small hole on one side, a big one on the other, everything else is just kinda uniformly a mess. Anyone got any crazy science to explain what they're thinking?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 16:31:28
Subject: Re:The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Tibbsy wrote: NELS1031 wrote:Napoleon Bonapartes penis was sold in auction and now resides in New Jersey?
Learn something new every day.
And a quick google search reveals that someone actually wrote a book about Napoleons littlelest soldier and its many journeys and adventures.
I remember reading somewhere that Rasputin's penis was removed and kept pickled in a jar for years...
It now resides in a museum IIRC 
There's a picture floating around on the internet. Let's just say that his reputation with the ladies was well deserved...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 16:32:07
Subject: The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Why?
O.o
All of this seems macabre....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 17:04:49
Subject: Re:The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
Monarchy of TBD
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"Everybody's always in favor of saving Hitler's brain. But when you put it in the body of a great white shark - uuuh, suddenly you've gone too far"
Sounds like a Farnsworth is monkeying around with US history again.
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Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 18:17:10
Subject: Re:The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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Meh, I think the Rasputin's penis thing is a hoax.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/23 01:12:04
Subject: Re:The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Squatting with the squigs
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Crazy_Carnifex wrote:Conspiracy theorist think Kennedy's brain was stolen as a cover-up? I probably shouldn't be surprised, but seriously? I know enough about ballistics (and woodworking) to know that, with bullets or drills, there is a small hole on one side, a big one on the other, everything else is just kinda uniformly a mess. Anyone got any crazy science to explain what they're thinking?
It is physically easier to pour a brain into a jar rather than find one the right size.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/23 01:27:16
Subject: The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Has anyone tracked down Nixon's brain? He may be planning on making a comeback.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/23 09:32:26
Subject: The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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Damn, and now I really am scared of dying. I mean, sure before I wanted to avoid it but now?
To know that there is a chance that my body could be chopped up and desecrated..... Even my...... "Main Gun" removed and carted off rather than being left to rest in its burial chamber, protected by the ranks of minis is disturbing.
And who the hell chops off a dead mans penis as a keepsake. That's just kinda twisted, even by my standards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/23 11:00:29
Subject: The Presidents' Brain is missing....
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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Kilkrazy wrote:There was a sketch on Spitting Image in the 1980s in which President Reagan's brain went missing and wandered around the USA.
And was eaten by a sheep, who then panicked and tried to get to Washington to save the administration.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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