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I know the chaos gods have sacred numbers... Do the Eldar have sacred numbers?

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No. We aren't even sure if they have any kind of numbers, they probably quantify things by how fabulous and sparkly they are.

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 warpspider89 wrote:
I know the chaos gods have sacred numbers... Do the Eldar have sacred numbers?


No sacred number for the eldar. As far as I can tell, the chaos gods don't have sacred numbers any longer either. There hasn't been any mention of them in the last two CSM codex releases, or in either of the daemons releases. I was never a fan of the sacred number idea, so this has been a welcome change for me.

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There is some mention of sacred Chaos Numbers. For example, Anngrath the Unbound is noted as requiring 888 skulls or something right?

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That's how it used to be, yes.

Khorne's number used to be '8'. Back in the day that a Khorne lord with a Tzeentch mark was simply NOT THE DONE THING.

There has been stuff-all in the way of mentions of these sacred numbers, OR of the rivalry/enmities the gods have of each other, too - in several rules editions, though.


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Wasn't it something like

Slaanesh = 6
Nurgle = 7
Khorne = 8
Tzeentch = 9

I've never heard of Eldar having sacred numbers.
Biel-tan, Iyanden, Ulthwe, Saim Ham and Alaitoc were the different eldar flavours back in 3rd ed.

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I'm guessing that sacred numbers are pretty much just a Chaos thing. I don't think I can recall any instance of any other factions placing such importance on numbers.

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They haven't specifically retconned the sacred numbers of the Gods, or the animosities. As they still loom large in the minds of many players, I think they are still valid.

But no, I can't think of any examples of other races or entities having sacred numbers. I bet some Guard units have lucky numbers, though....

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Why would you think Eldar would have one?

   
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I don't see why Eldar would have sacred numbers, it seems just to be a Chaos thing. I also don't think they've been retconned either, they just don't have the rules relevance anymore, in A Thousand Sons for example they make a note of how Mortarion's bodyguard are never than 49 paces away or some such. So 7x7, meant to be pretty portentous I'm sure.
   
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Sacred Numbers are things assigned to angels, devils and deities. Eldar are just aliens.

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The Eldar are a very spiritual and religious race. It seems entirely plausible that they would attach special value to a number. After all, the SM seem to have a special attachment to 10 and the numbers produced as it is taken to various powers

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Or you can just claim it's all bad luck and you're really the best player in the world if not for those dice and/or cards.
 
   
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 warpspider89 wrote:
the SM seem to have a special attachment to 10


They do? I can't think much of what 10 has to do with Space Marines besides Guilliman deciding to organize them as such.
   
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Other than it's the base digit for the metric system, and for military units the number 10 scales quite easily, I cannot see that it holds any particular "sacred" status to them.

For the Eldar, I can see their various gods having their own associated sacred numbers, sure, but for themselves? No.

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Various gods is close enough. Either way I was curious. I am trying to get to know more about Alaitoc background for army building purposes.

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Or you can just claim it's all bad luck and you're really the best player in the world if not for those dice and/or cards.
 
   
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Eldar probably don't even use the same base mathematics as us, they might perceive things on a more analog scale, or using a counting and mathematical method based on multiples or the fibonacci sequence.

Eldar minds could easily do something like mental long division or logarithms in an instant, and subconciously... our method of perceiving something like numbers probably seems primitive and sluggish... like how we look at apes, see that they can count up to three but no further and see that as a very basic grasp/ understanding of the world around them compared to our own.

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 augustus5 wrote:
 warpspider89 wrote:
I know the chaos gods have sacred numbers... Do the Eldar have sacred numbers?


No sacred number for the eldar. As far as I can tell, the chaos gods don't have sacred numbers any longer either. There hasn't been any mention of them in the last two CSM codex releases, or in either of the daemons releases. I was never a fan of the sacred number idea, so this has been a welcome change for me.


There is a subtle usage of the Chaos Gods' sacred numbers in the Apocalypse book under Chaos Daemons.

Each Formation is comprised of X number of Squads made up of X number of Models which equate to their sacred number.

Currently, the Eldar's sacred number is 6 for their Avatar reawakening and a gajillion representing the number of Eldar filled spirit stones to summon the Undead Eldar God.

 
   
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The Eldar sacred number is 1.

As in even 1 Eldar still alive is 1 too many...

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clively wrote:
The Eldar sacred number is 1.

As in even 1 Eldar still alive is 1 too many...


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I think it's 6. Slaanesh birth was caused by the elders hedonistic lifestyle at the time and slaanesh number is 6

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 warpspider89 wrote:
After all, the SM seem to have a special attachment to 10


Maybe it's the only number marines can count by besides 1.

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