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I was also wary of two master in one list, but they're priced so high and don't often synergise well with other keywords that they're not OP.

I'm interested in trying Lady J out in a Nellie Crew, but she would just be another beater, almost like a powered up Peacekeeper and costed to match.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Yeah, I think that there were a decent number of changes to improve that in 3e (like dropping upgrades), but I'm suspicious of multimaster games and still, ultimately, I feel pretty thoroughly burned by the faction and keyword shuffling nonsense.

Don't upgrades still exist? The 3e faction decks say they contain "Stat Cards and Upgrades for each tournament-legal Second Edition model in the associated Faction"

When I glanced over the 3e rules, I couldn't really tell they difference between 2e, as if not much changed at all. Admittedly though, I haven't played 2e in a long time.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I'm willing to actually give 3E a try though. The cards look a lot more streamlined than all the info that ended up on some of the later 2E models.

My biggest issue with Malifaux is the information overload, a problem I also had with Warmachine, where I had to know not only how all my models interacted with each other, but also all of my opponents models and all the shenanigans they could get up to.

For a certain amount that's going to be unavoidable for the style of "character driven skirmish game" that it is. There's fewer "Your crew did something to my crew, and the rule is on your card" situations, and fewer upgrades in play. And they were sort of ruthless about going through and consolidating similar actions and triggers (the Guild Peacemakers got normalized in with everyone else's clockwork pistols).

But it still is a shenanigan based game.


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WUWU wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Yeah, I think that there were a decent number of changes to improve that in 3e (like dropping upgrades), but I'm suspicious of multimaster games and still, ultimately, I feel pretty thoroughly burned by the faction and keyword shuffling nonsense.

Don't upgrades still exist? The 3e faction decks say they contain "Stat Cards and Upgrades for each tournament-legal Second Edition model in the associated Faction"

They do still exist, but there are a lot fewer of them, and over half of them are used for things like applying persistent effects (like Jack Daw's curses) or buffs like McCades artifacts or the cards applied to summoned models. Otherwise, there's just a small handful of general upgrades for each faction, instead of M2E's situation where you'd need one binder for your model cards and a second binder for your upgrade cards.

Also IIRC a model can only start the game with a maximum of one attached upgrade.

I have a game ready tonight I'm looking forward to. I finally finished painting up my Peacekeeper and was ready to roll it out..... and then I pay closer attention to the card and realise it lost Terrifying :(

solkan wrote:But it still is a shenanigan based game.

This is a fantastic way to put it.

https://www.wyrd-games.net/news/2019/6/26/waldos-weekly-feet-dont-fail-me-now?fbclid=IwAR2LPjWevMLoKh7s4Tjxa61Fsf0c4iMXB0Ys5skg-KIjGVCG_1eCbP0Mz6E

Link to rules and all Stat Cards here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/avhhxltzcyj7hbg/AADT-r3woEgeCjG6JljVwFOIa?dl=0

New link up due to previous one breaking: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wicc6rs8kg46bt7/AACUSxdWhyaHQYaD1cGf0nzga?dl=0

Let the nitpicking commence!

Looks like the site is down from too many people trying to download the rules... or is it just me?

I got them, but I was quick like a cat.

 squall018 wrote:
Looks like the site is down from too many people trying to download the rules... or is it just me?

The link I clicked on for the cards ended up giving me a 3.67 GB file eventually. That may have something to do with the download being slow.

I wish I could ever find people locally who play Malifaux. Reading through the rulebook is reminding me how much I loved this game back in 1st edition.

New link for the files: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wicc6rs8kg46bt7/AACUSxdWhyaHQYaD1cGf0nzga?dl=0

Previous one broke due to too many requests.

This years GenCon Nightmare box has been revealed:




https://www.wyrd-games.net/news/2019/7/10/waldos-weekly-curse-of-the-dead-tide

Very cool image and models.....

That's pretty groovy. In related news, saw that the new rules stuff hit MiniatureMarket ... and then instantly sold out They've got some card decks from factions I don't care a ton about left and that's it. Waiting for restock then

Damn it, like my backlog isn't big enough already.

I'm pleasantly surprised that the models aren't 75% leg! Glad Wyrd finally hired someone who knows what human proportions look like.

Is The Other Side done for? Seems like I havent heard any news on it, or the wyrdscapes buildings in like a year.

That nighmare is crew is awesome. If they extended the crew to include more Resser models I'd be all in.

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Is The Other Side done for?

If you ask, "is Warmachine done for?", or of any game in a bad place, you'll always get one or two guys who swear that it has never been more popular. I asked this same question of The Other Side in this thread, one page back, and nobody even bothered to type "The Other what-now?"

 .Mikes. wrote:
That nighmare is crew is awesome. If they extended the crew to include more Resser models I'd be all in.

Well it could be a situation like with the Curiosity killed the Cat crew- it had a preview flyer included that expanded things at Black Friday. Wouldn't surprise me we see a similar situation unfold here.

In regards to The Other Side... I don't know. I feel like I'm fighting a lost cause even trying to talk about it. At the very least the models are great fodder for other projects if the mass combat game doesn't pan out.

Skellywags... almost worth getting the box just for that.

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
Is The Other Side done for?

If you ask, "is Warmachine done for?", or of any game in a bad place, you'll always get one or two guys who swear that it has never been more popular. I asked this same question of The Other Side in this thread, one page back, and nobody even bothered to type "The Other what-now?"

Like Warmachine, there's a die-hard group that will swear the game is huge (which it really isn't) but they kind of have similar issues. With Warmachine you have a game promoted by it's company very frequently and marketed a lot at conventions, but the guys that play it are very often forces that push people away. With TOS you have the opposite- a small community that are fairly welcoming, but a company that pretty much forgot about it. We know stuff is coming, and the 2-player starter will be a huge help in growing things, but it's still a matter of when it comes out, and it's already almost 2 years since kickstarter closed and only those products have released since then. It's looking likely to be 3 years since the game's announcement before we get anything new which won't look good, and the silence while M3E has launched isn't very healthy. It's a great game but it just needs more exposure to get its legs, because right now it's limping along with a crowd that mostly backed the kickstarter and maybe roped a couple others in.

That said, M3E is great. It has me revitalised for Malifaux, and I'm looking at hitting into my backlog now to finish up crews I had half done (because of the old hiring system, most of the time I hired out of theme for good options, while now I'm all in on the keyword train). The Gencon releases look great but I'm probably putting my money into finishing crews I already own before I buy brand new ones. Seriously, I have Lynch, McMourning and Misaki outside of my faction all missing handfuls of keyword options because I nabbed them cheap

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:
That nighmare is crew is awesome. If they extended the crew to include more Resser models I'd be all in.

Well it could be a situation like with the Curiosity killed the Cat crew- it had a preview flyer included that expanded things at Black Friday. Wouldn't surprise me we see a similar situation unfold here.

Same thing with the Nightmare Circus and the flying monkey Coryphee. What is kind of interesting. The other models in that keyword are Crooligans, Forgotten Marshal, Night Terrors and the Rogue Necromancy. The former feels like the most likely option, but Night Terrors could be fun.

I'm thinking about this, and I'm wodering if there are any other zombie pirate minis out there that coudl stand in for the rest of the keyword.

 .Mikes. wrote:
I'm thinking about this, and I'm wodering if there are any other zombie pirate minis out there that coudl stand in for the rest of the keyword.

As a starting point: https://www.reapermini.com/search/Razig

 ChaoticMind wrote:

 .Mikes. wrote:
I'm thinking about this, and I'm wodering if there are any other zombie pirate minis out there that coudl stand in for the rest of the keyword.

As a starting point: https://www.reapermini.com/search/Razig

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Skellywags... almost worth getting the box just for that.

No! Wait! They should have been Skullywags!

Arg!


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For undead Pirates, Black Scorpion also has some goodies. Or baddies as the case may be.

https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/index.php?cPath=25&osCsid=uac6jpkgb0omqg6aplold9gqf6

Rum & Bones has all sorts of board game plastic undead pirates.

Also fishmen.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Rum & Bones has all sorts of board game plastic undead pirates.

Also fishmen.

I need those in my life!

OK, this new pirate keyword could be a thing.....

 .Mikes. wrote:
I'm thinking about this, and I'm wodering if there are any other zombie pirate minis out there that coudl stand in for the rest of the keyword.

Privateer Press has a number in their Cryx line for Warmachine

http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/cryx/solos/captain-rengrave
http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/cryx/units/revenant-crew-rifleman
http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/cryx/units/revenant-crew-of-the-atramentous-with-three-riflemen
http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/cryx/units/blackbanes-ghost-raiders
http://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/cryx/units/revenant-cannon-crew

IMO, the sword blades are oversized and goofy, but that is a quick swap fix.