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 whembly wrote:
Yeah... see? Not everyone knows the "ins and outs" of that whole process...

Oh... you need to find a way to tease your wife: "Hey! Don't forget that you're financially responsible for me..."

She did say that she wouldn't mind if I went back to being a house husband tomorrow

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
YES =, oh god yes. I remember this girl was talking about letting illegals vote, because "They have a stake" My response "They will have stakes when they pay taxes"

No, they should have a vote when they are citizens. Not before.

Exactly.

Ok still. The girls whole arguement was Illegals have a stake in the government because they live here. Mine was that they are not a citizen so they should not vote

 whembly wrote:
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That in the USA a higher percentage of minorities fall into the camp of those whose lives are hard enough to make acquiring an ID (or the documentation to acquire one) much more difficult.

That's horse gak.

Also... why are you discounting the poor non-minority?

I'm against ANY law that makes exercising the vote more difficult.

Fair enough... that is, your opinion afterall. Will you sign the repeal of such laws in states like California or Illinois?

Not Horsedung actually. It's hard to be poor. Minorities have higher rates or poverty. Nothing horsedung about it.

By the way, I'm not discounting the poor non-minorities affected by voting laws, I was responding to your statement about minorities.

I would sign the reapeal of such laws in California, were I a Cali resident.

Also, check your laws, In Illinois, you don't need an ID to vote if you've already registered, and you only need an ID to register the first time. After that, as long as you haven't moved or changed your name, you don't need to show an ID. The only other times you need an ID is for early voting, or if there is the election judges see a discrepancy and even then you can cast a provisional ballot.

http://ballotpedia.org/State_by_State_Voter_ID_Laws

 whembly wrote:

Manchu wrote:
I'll cry it -- I think it's despicable there and everywhere else.

Yeah... you've been real consistent with that.

Even arguing from "less government" standpoint.

I'm no libertarian but I am rather conservative.

I wonder if I'll be able to buy a gun on the cheap on Black Friday without my id? Hmmmmm

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ok still. The girls whole arguement was Illegals have a stake in the government because they live here. Mine was that they are not a citizen so they should not vote

I'm not disagreeing that illegal immigrants (and legal ones) should not have a vote. But I just wanted your argument as to why they should not have a vote to be stronger.

 cincydooley wrote:
I wonder if I'll be able to buy a gun on the cheap on Black Friday without my id? Hmmmmm

Do gun shops have black friday sales? Do they need to with supply still falling behind demand (artifically)?

 Breotan wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
I wonder if I'll be able to buy a gun on the cheap on Black Friday without my id? Hmmmmm

Do gun shops have black friday sales? Do they need to with supply still falling behind demand (artifically)?

They do.

 Breotan wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
I wonder if I'll be able to buy a gun on the cheap on Black Friday without my id? Hmmmmm

Do gun shops have black friday sales? Do they need to with supply still falling behind demand (artifically)?

In addition to ads sent to me from Freedom Arms, Cabellas, Midway, and Beretta, Fulton Arms sent me an ad. Fulton Arms makes REALLY expensive, 3.08 AR10 clones and repro Garands/M1 carbines with new barrels. Satan thou shalt not tempt me with your goodness!