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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/15 09:42:39
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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I tend to get logged out of the forums fairly often as I switch between home and work computers.
One thing I've noticed here is that the Quote/Reply buttons for threads doesn't show if you're not logged on. Most other forums I use still show them, and if you go to post something when you aren't logged on, it will take to the login page, then it automatically forwards you onto the new post page straight after.
On here you have to go login seprately, then backtrack to find the thread / post you wanted to reply to. It will also often cache the thread with the buttons missing, meaning you need to refresh it too.
Not a huge deal, but it would be a nice usability tweak that will help save people some time. And I know it's just one checkbox to click in the admin panel
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/15 11:23:07
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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And I know it's just one checkbox to click in the admin panel
You seem to be mistaking Dakka with a forum powered by something like vBulletin. Dakka's coding is written by Legoburner, one of the two admins of the site, and so will not contain standard 'panels' and bits & pieces that come with DIY flatpack forums.
Everything that goes on behind the scenes here is a lot more than just checkboxes and radio buttons.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/15 12:58:36
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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xttz wrote:I tend to get logged out of the forums fairly often as I switch between home and work computers.
One thing I've noticed here is that the Quote/Reply buttons for threads doesn't show if you're not logged on. Most other forums I use still show them, and if you go to post something when you aren't logged on, it will take to the login page, then it automatically forwards you onto the new post page straight after.
On here you have to go login seprately, then backtrack to find the thread / post you wanted to reply to. It will also often cache the thread with the buttons missing, meaning you need to refresh it too.
Not a huge deal, but it would be a nice usability tweak that will help save people some time. And I know it's just one checkbox to click in the admin panel 
Wait people log out of Dakka?
Note: The only time I get logged out of Dakka is when I shut down my work computer. Even at home I'm always logged in. You could always ask your browser and the site to remember you, that should solve your issues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/15 18:36:20
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Open second tab.
Log in.
Refresh tab containing post you want to reply to.
Reply.
That's how I handle it at work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 00:37:49
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Avatar 720 wrote:And I know it's just one checkbox to click in the admin panel
You seem to be mistaking Dakka with a forum powered by something like vBulletin. Dakka's coding is written by Legoburner, one of the two admins of the site, and so will not contain standard 'panels' and bits & pieces that come with DIY flatpack forums.
Everything that goes on behind the scenes here is a lot more than just checkboxes and radio buttons.
In html/css it is very easy to add buttons actually. Anyway, the capacity to display them graphically clearly exists, since they are displayed when logged in. You could fix it in PHP, you'd simply need a few lines of code to redirect the user to the login page, passing the url of the post through the address bar (or session id or something). My PHP is a bit rusty but it shouldn't be too hard.
It is a common feature in most forums but I don't really care either way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 01:41:01
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Making Stuff
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d-usa wrote:Open second tab.
Log in.
Refresh tab containing post you want to reply to.
Reply.
That's how I handle it at work.
This man speaks wisely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 03:05:53
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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xruslanx wrote: Avatar 720 wrote:And I know it's just one checkbox to click in the admin panel You seem to be mistaking Dakka with a forum powered by something like vBulletin. Dakka's coding is written by Legoburner, one of the two admins of the site, and so will not contain standard 'panels' and bits & pieces that come with DIY flatpack forums. Everything that goes on behind the scenes here is a lot more than just checkboxes and radio buttons.
In html/css it is very easy to add buttons actually. Anyway, the capacity to display them graphically clearly exists, since they are displayed when logged in. You could fix it in PHP, you'd simply need a few lines of code to redirect the user to the login page, passing the url of the post through the address bar (or session id or something). My PHP is a bit rusty but it shouldn't be too hard. It is a common feature in most forums but I don't really care either way. Adding a button is pretty easy, but that's not the issue. You would need a login feature that works differently than the regular login button. You would need to write code that checks to see if you are logged in when you respond, then it needs to recognize that you are not just logging in from the top of the forum but that you are logging in while replying to a post, then it has to remember what you wrote and where you wrote it, then it has to insert what you wrote when you are done and return you to that page instead of just returning you to the index page without posting your comment. It's a whole other layer of code to add a functionality that just doesn't exist so far and since this board is pretty much written from scratch it might end up being a simple section of code to write but it could end up causing a big headache while trying to make it work with the code that is already there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 04:06:07
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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d-usa wrote:xruslanx wrote: Avatar 720 wrote:And I know it's just one checkbox to click in the admin panel
You seem to be mistaking Dakka with a forum powered by something like vBulletin. Dakka's coding is written by Legoburner, one of the two admins of the site, and so will not contain standard 'panels' and bits & pieces that come with DIY flatpack forums.
Everything that goes on behind the scenes here is a lot more than just checkboxes and radio buttons.
In html/css it is very easy to add buttons actually. Anyway, the capacity to display them graphically clearly exists, since they are displayed when logged in. You could fix it in PHP, you'd simply need a few lines of code to redirect the user to the login page, passing the url of the post through the address bar (or session id or something). My PHP is a bit rusty but it shouldn't be too hard.
It is a common feature in most forums but I don't really care either way.
Adding a button is pretty easy, but that's not the issue.
You would need a login feature that works differently than the regular login button. You would need to write code that checks to see if you are logged in when you respond, then it needs to recognize that you are not just logging in from the top of the forum but that you are logging in while replying to a post, then it has to remember what you wrote and where you wrote it, then it has to insert what you wrote when you are done and return you to that page instead of just returning you to the index page without posting your comment.
It's a whole other layer of code to add a functionality that just doesn't exist so far and since this board is pretty much written from scratch it might end up being a simple section of code to write but it could end up causing a big headache while trying to make it work with the code that is already there.
Well I can't remember the actual code since it's been a while but I would add to the top of reply.php (or whatever it is that processes thread replies)
Then in login.php, after the login has been processed and verified etc
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 11:03:40
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Bear in mind that I never questioned the ease of adding such a feature, I simply questioned the assertion that adding such a feature was simply down to choosing whether or not to tick a checkbox.
It's important, I feel, to make sure users know that Dakka is not based off vBulletin or any other pre-fab forums, in order to ensure that there are as few misconceptions about what is and what is not immediately possible to add.
I also think that Lego deserves acknowledgement for what he does, so that people don't think he just flicks a few options 'on' or 'off' in a panel to change things.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 17:01:17
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Alfndrate wrote:Wait people log out of Dakka?
Note: The only time I get logged out of Dakka is when I shut down my work computer. Even at home I'm always logged in. You could always ask your browser and the site to remember you, that should solve your issues.
Despite having them synced via Chrome, whenever I log into Dakka on my work computer, my home PC is logged out and vice-versa. The 'remember me' option has no effect on it.
Avatar 720 wrote:And I know it's just one checkbox to click in the admin panel
You seem to be mistaking Dakka with a forum powered by something like vBulletin. Dakka's coding is written by Legoburner, one of the two admins of the site, and so will not contain standard 'panels' and bits & pieces that come with DIY flatpack forums.
Everything that goes on behind the scenes here is a lot more than just checkboxes and radio buttons.
I honestly thought it was an off-the-shelf forum package. I guess it's a testament to how well made this forum is when it appears just as, if not more, professional than software developed professionally by teams of people.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 14:41:08
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hurrah I am summoned by compliments
The quote/reply buttons were left off initially for non-logged in users to facilitate some features I ended up not wanting to add, so I guess there is no reason not to add them. I'll add it to the to-do list. Thanks for the suggestion!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 14:52:45
Subject: Re:Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Fixture of Dakka
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How big is your to-do list Lego? I mean if you were to take a standard school issue A4 exercise book with lined pages, and wrote one objective per line, how many pages are we talking?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 14:57:33
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Exactly 104 items on it at the moment, 34KB long and I get through about 60 items per year on average.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 23:50:04
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I know exactly dick about programming and coding and what not but belting out just over one per week seems to be pretty good rate. Especially since it seems so damn complex and time consuming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/19 00:22:52
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Snrub wrote:I know exactly dick about programming and coding and what not but belting out just over one per week seems to be pretty good rate. Especially since it seems so damn complex and time consuming.
To be honest most of my coding experience is based around interpreting, processing, and graphing data. And then my standard approach is "fiddle with it until it works". I don't think you could do that with a forum though...you'd get a couple day's worth of complaints until you git it right and stopped the new code from breaking the entire thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/20 13:04:55
Subject: Can we get thread Quote/Reply buttons to show when not logged in?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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legoburner wrote:Hurrah I am summoned by compliments
The quote/reply buttons were left off initially for non-logged in users to facilitate some features I ended up not wanting to add, so I guess there is no reason not to add them. I'll add it to the to-do list. Thanks for the suggestion!
Can you add giving me the power to suspend users to your to-do list?!
That would be great for me! Really!
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