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Okay, so I was playing around with the 6x10 Tac squad in Rhino White scars army the other day and it got me thinking, with the cheaper prices in 6th Ed C:SM and the self-allying, just how bonkers could you get with maxing out vehicles? I came up with 17 separate vehicles and 8 scoring troops units. How do you think this would fare?


Primary Detachment - Iron Hands (because who doesn't love It Will Not Die in a vehicle spam army?)

Librarian - 65 - Cheapest possible HQ (I suppose the whole thing could switch to DA for fearless at the same price?)
6x 5-man Tactical Squad + Meltagun, LasPlas Razorback - (155 each) - 930 total
2x AC LC Predators - 200
1x Whirlwind - 65
3x Land Speeder with Heavy Flamer - 150 (for crowd control)

Allied Detachment - White Scars
Librarian - 65
2x 5-man Tactical Squad + Meltagun, LasPlas Razorback - (155 each) - 310
1x Whirlwind - 65
1x Land Speeder w/ Heavy Flamer - 50

Inquisitor Detachment (Because why not get 3 servo skulls to deter scout shenanigans)
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor + 3x Servo Skulls - 34
3x Acolytes + Psyback - 62


Total Summary
8x LasPlas Razorbacks with 5-man melta units inside
1x Psyback
2x AC LC Predators
2x Whirlwinds
4x Land Speeders with HF
2x Librarians
1x Inquisitor with Servo Skulls

What do you guys think? It would probably be horrible, and certainly would have movement issues on some maps, but that just seems like an awful lot of vehicles to deal with. It is 25 separate units (not counting HQs). And it brings to bear 12 lascannons, 8 twin-linked plasmaguns, 2 autocannons, 2x whirlwinds, str 6 Heavy bolter, and 4x heavy flamers.

Can get 21 vehicles if you use squads of scouts in land speeder storm's and loads of land speeders.

Slightly different to your Lascannon idea but with this you get.

17 Multimelta's
4 Twin Linked Lascannon's
9 Heavy Bolters
5 Cerberus Launchers (so they cant shoot back)

You could get a bit more creative though by dropping some of the Multimelta's but hey, who doesnt like 24" S8 AP1!

Libby
3x Dreads (Multimelta's)
5x Scout Squads in Land Speeder Storms (Multimelta's)
1x Tactical Squad in Razorback (Twin Linked Lascannon's)
9x Land Speeder (Multimelta's and Heavy Bolter's)
3x Predator (Twin Linked Lascannons)

I think you are much better off running it as Ravenguard. So much Scout should alleviate your movement problems... and its Scout. I'd also ally Scouts in LSSs for more Scout. Damn near your entire army would redeploy.

I'd consider a couple of Stormtalons instead of some of your other Support.

 Zagman wrote:
I think you are much better off running it as Ravenguard. So much Scout should alleviate your movement problems... and its Scout. I'd also ally Scouts in LSSs for more Scout. Damn near your entire army would redeploy.

I'd consider a couple of Stormtalons instead of some of your other Support.

No point bothering with CT:RG when just by taking Khan and CT:WS you get hit and run on every one of his weak scoring units, which is considerably better than stealth on the first turn and still gives you Scout.

There is also no need for the LSS' as any of his many Tactical Squads can outflank with scout anyway; though I'd change the weapon configuration on 1-2 Razorbacks to TLHF to compensate for such.

Prime candidates for a vehicle spam list I'd say are Storm Ravens with TLMM/AC (Riptide killers, AT, considerably hard to kill), Tri-Las/ACLAS Predators, TLHF Razorbacks outflanking/scout alphastriking and Inquisition Psymeras/Psybacks depending on Warband loadout; the former only becomes worth it if you're making effective use of the fire points.

Traps I'd avoid falling into:

Whirlwinds- Naff.
Hunter/Stalker - Naff, flyers are far better AA and provide a lot more in other departments
Vindicators - Screwed by 6th,impractical and means you're not getting more Predators/Ravens.
Land Speeders with heavy flamers : Razorback with TLHF costs 5 points less for not a great loss in firepower, can survive slightly longer, outflank with a Scout CT and carry infantry. The Razorback route also means the unit is an entire dead end against some tougher, more elite armies as it can still function as a transport.

 Mr.Omega wrote:

 Zagman wrote:
I think you are much better off running it as Ravenguard. So much Scout should alleviate your movement problems... and its Scout. I'd also ally Scouts in LSSs for more Scout. Damn near your entire army would redeploy.

I'd consider a couple of Stormtalons instead of some of your other Support.

No point bothering with CT:RG when just by taking Khan and CT:WS you get hit and run on every one of his weak scoring units, which is considerably better than stealth on the first turn and still gives you Scout.

There is also no need for the LSS' as any of his many Tactical Squads can outflank with scout anyway; though I'd change the weapon configuration on 1-2 Razorbacks to TLHF to compensate for such.

Prime candidates for a vehicle spam list I'd say are Storm Ravens with TLMM/AC (Riptide killers, AT, considerably hard to kill), Tri-Las/ACLAS Predators, TLHF Razorbacks outflanking/scout alphastriking and Inquisition Psymeras/Psybacks depending on Warband loadout; the former only becomes worth it if you're making effective use of the fire points.

Traps I'd avoid falling into:

Whirlwinds- Naff.
Hunter/Stalker - Naff, flyers are far better AA and provide a lot more in other departments
Vindicators - Screwed by 6th,impractical and means you're not getting more Predators/Ravens.
Land Speeders with heavy flamers : Razorback with TLHF costs 5 points less for not a great loss in firepower, can survive slightly longer, outflank with a Scout CT and carry infantry. The Razorback route also means the unit is an entire dead end against some tougher, more elite armies as it can still function as a transport.

That requires Khan, which is where cost becomes the major deterrent. So double cost for Hit and Run and loses 1st Turn Stealth. Its certainly not a one sided decision.

Scouts are for the allied detatchment as you aren't getting Scout without it.

Yeah, good call on switching some to HF. Maybe the landspeeders could switch to MM or Typhoon.

It's kind of a tossup for RG or White Scar or Iron Hands. RG and White Scars suggests a more aggressive style and opens up some options. Though the new Inquisitor book nerfs scout heavily.

Shinigan's idea is also pretty interesting...

For only 930 points you can get 8x 5-Man scout w/ combi-flamer in a Land Speeder Storm with MM. Add to it, like 6 regular land speeders and you have a pretty lulzy skimmer army that still has room for a Storm Raven with a beatstick HQ inside.