Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Rules Q: can a Daemon Herald of ( insert chaos god ) join a CSM Daemon unit ie Obliterators with the same Mark of ( insert chaos god ) ?

You might try adding Demonic Instability in pencil to the respecitve unit listing in the CSM Codex. If you are lucky, the other players will share the laugh with you.

Absolutely not. 100% clear in the rules.

Also, radio buttons, not check buttons, otherwise people can vote both yes and no

Having the "Daemon" USR and "Mark of Nurgle" rule does not equal "Daemon of Nurgle" rule.

Plus you still lack Daemonic Instability so that no joining on two fronts

Nope. As Daemons from the chaos daemons codex have daemonic instability, and daemons from the csm codex dont. A character with daemonic instability may only join another unit with daemonic instability.

I am in the choir with the rest of them on this.

The additional restriction applied to Daemon Independent Characters, found within the rules in question, specifies exactly what is required to meet this restriction. The unit being joined must share a special rule with the name of 'Daemon of X,' with X being the Chaos God/dess in question, as well as the Daemonic Instability rule. Putting aside the Daemonic Instability, it is just another nail in the coffin at this point, I will focus on the actual question put forth: Can the 'Mark of X' rule be applied to a Daemon to meet the requirements of the 'Daemon of X' rule?

I have yet to find anything in the book allowing me to combine snippets of two special rules in order to make a completely new rule. That is the large problem, as the people whom answer Yes clearly believe permission exists to combine special rules simply because the two in question can be logically combined. Without specific permission granting the ability to make these logical combination, one simply can not do so from a Rule as Written point of view. Permission to combine the Mark of X and the Daemon special rule, then applying that to a restriction in a third rule, simply does not exist anywhere in the codex or rule books.

Well remember when the daemon codex first released that Daemon Princes had add the mark of khorne, not a daemon of khorne which allowed you to have a psyker daemon prince of khorne

icefire78 wrote:
Well remember when the daemon codex first released that Daemon Princes had add the mark of khorne, not a daemon of khorne which allowed you to have a psyker daemon prince of khorne

Do you mean "first released" as in years and years ago? Because if so, that has nothing to do with the discussion; and if not, then no, you're wrong, my Daemon Daemon Prince cannot take any Marks, and must take a "Daemon of ___"

Even the csm DP is a daemon of, but its also a mc with no ability to join units at all so the only unot that actually is a full daemon can't join or be joined by default. Not to mention the lack of instability.

Yup useless Battlebrothers alies is useless..

But eldar IC can join Squads of Inquisition/SMarines and give them their rules.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Yup useless Battlebrothers alies is useless..

But eldar IC can join Squads of Inquisition/SMarines and give them their rules.

How? Eldar are AoC with both of those armies.

A Tau IC however, can join a SM unit with attached Inquisitor.

Yeah got them mixed up.

Thanks for the input ... overlooked the more clear answer in the Daemonic Instability entry.