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I wanted to make a dual w/knights eldau army. Anyone got any good combos or advice that you guys willing to share?

1849 Pts - Eldau - Iyanden

HQ: Spiritseer (1 , 70 pts)

Troops: Dire Avengers (6 , 200 pts)
Dire Avengers
Wave Serpent 1 [135]
TL Scatter Lasers; Holo-Fields;

Troops: Dire Avengers (6 , 200 pts)
Dire Avengers
Wave Serpent 1 [135]
TL Scatter Lasers; Holo-Fields;

Troops: Dire Avengers (6 , 200 pts)
Dire Avengers
Wave Serpent 1 [135]
TL Scatter Lasers; Holo-Fields;

Troops: Windrider Jetbike Squad (3 , 51 pts)

Heavy Support: Wraithknight (1 , 300 pts)
Suncannon; Scattershield; Scatter Laser (x1);

Heavy Support: Wraithknight (1 , 300 pts)
Suncannon; Scattershield; Scatter Laser (x1);

HQ: Commander (1 , 193 pts)
advance targeting system, EWO; DC; VT; Command control Node; PEN; multi spectrum sensor suite, iridium suite

Troops: Kroot Carnivore Squad (11 , 65 pts)
Add Kroot Hounds

Heavy Support: XV88 Broadside Team (9 , 267 pts)
XV88 Broadside Team (Heavy)
Broadside Shas'ui [89]
TLHYM; TL SMS, Missile Drone; Missile Drone;
Broadside Shas'ui [89]
TLHYM; TL SMS, Missile Drone; Missile Drone;
Broadside Shas'ui [89]
TLHYM; TL SMS, Missile Drone; Missile Drone;

For Shame on you.

 raiden wrote:
For Shame on you.

lol Haha

I couldn't resist. Congratulations for not taking Wraithguard.
However, I'd give the Serpents tl scatterlaser, underslung shuricannon, and holofield.
A Jetseer would be a much better bet, with psychic shriek (to kill the last Berzerker refusing to die), guide, prescience.

 wuestenfux wrote:
I couldn't resist. Congratulations for not taking Wraithguard.
However, I'd give the Serpents tl scatterlaser, underslung shuricannon, and holofield.
A Jetseer would be a much better bet, with psychic shriek (to kill the last Berzerker refusing to die), guide, prescience.

i knew you couldn't lol.

Wraithguard is overrated lol.

Yes, let me edit that list a bit. The serpents were meant to have TL-scatter lasers.

I really want holofield in my serpent. But, I think i only have about 30 points left to distribute in the cost of 3 spirit stones. I think ill use 2 holofield instead.

About jetseer, I think im going to try them both this weekend. one game with jetseer and another with spiritseer. At the moment, i'm trying to capitalize Voice of Twilight to boost W/knight with battlefocus. Perhaps spending that last 30 points for a wraith forge stone (an iyanden item hat replenish a wound on a 3+).

Congrats on another creative list....

I agree with wuerstenfux though, the mantle seer would be more useful.

 Arbiter wrote:
Congrats on another creative list....

I agree with wuerstenfux though, the mantle seer would be more useful.

This list is quite original aren't they.

Yea, I think ill do a mantle seer or just a plain jet seer join with 3 jetbikes troops or some sort. I really need prescience and stuff.

Why EWO, TL and VT on a Commander with no guns you're literally throwing 30 points away. The drone controller also seems a waste for just 2 gun drones. Dropping those gets you Shuriken Cannons on all the Serpents and that will have an actual impact on your army.


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Do you need prescience? Just for the Wraithknight? As everything else is already twin linked .

 FlingitNow wrote:
Why EWO, TL and VT on a Commander with no guns you're literally throwing 30 points away. The drone controller also seems a waste for just 2 gun drones. Dropping those gets you Shuriken Cannons on all the Serpents and that will have an actual impact on your army.


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Do you need prescience? Just for the Wraithknight? As everything else is already twin linked .

I edited the list after a game last weekend. I took out Target lock. It has no use what so ever lol.

EWO and VT on the other hand is very useful. The commander joins broadside to give broadside's missile drone the intercept/skyfire/PEN chip rule while shooting at bs5. So the drone controller is not for the 2 gun drones attached to the commander. The 2 gun drones itself have bs5 and pinning. The gun drone is to to force low LD unit to roll LD test.

The skyhield landing pad is overrated. But, If i have another 75 points to spare, I would definitely take them.

I tried the 2 naked wknight, but with this build i think they generate more threat with suncannon + SL.

So here is the newest revised list. What do you think?

Well, I'd replace the Spiritseer with a Jetseer w/ guide, prescience, and psychic shriek. She could guide the Wraithknights. However, I'd give them the normal loadout, everything else it too expensive. For the points saved, you could take underslung shuricannons which is a must-have, at least for me.

Drone controller doesn't work with missile drones by the way.

Jpr wrote:
Drone controller doesn't work with missile drones by the way.

Are you referring to pg. 68 on the tau codex? it doesn't say missile drones for some reason. Yes, i know lol. But most people don't know. Haha.. Actually, i think i'm going to edit the list with marker drones instead.


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 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I'd replace the Spiritseer with a Jetseer w/ guide, prescience, and psychic shriek. She could guide the Wraithknights. However, I'd give them the normal loadout, everything else it too expensive. For the points saved, you could take underslung shuricannons which is a must-have, at least for me.

The reason i use spirit seer is because they're cheap and they could boost wknight to get battlefocus. I wonder if farseer could do the same?

The reason i use spirit seer is because they're cheap and they could boost wknight to get battlefocus. I wonder if farseer could do the same?

Well, I'd use the Farseer to cast guide or prescience on the Wraithknights. On a jetbike, she will be mobile enough to keep up with them. Moreover, psychic shriek is cast in the shooting phase and is very useful to kill this last Bezerker who refuses to die.

EWO and VT on the other hand is very useful. The commander joins broadside to give broadside's missile drone the intercept/skyfire/PEN chip rule while shooting at bs5

Firstly the drone controller doesn't work with missile drones. Secondly even if it did the drones would not gain skyfire or interceptor only the commander gets those rules no one else.

I'd go for the stock weapons on the Wraithknights. You're spending 120 points on something you don't need, seeing what's in the rest of your list.

Also, as has been mentioned, you're throwing away a lot of points on useless gear for your Commander.

And then there's the Spiritseer, which I don't get. He doesn't really do anything for you. Had it not been an Iyanden list, he could have given Conceal to the Broadsides, but now he is just an HQ tax.

And how many Dire Avengers do you have? It says six in each squad, but the points add up to five.

I'd go for the stock weapons on the Wraithknights. You're spending 120 points on something you don't need, seeing what's in the rest of your list.

Absolutely right. A Jetseer could make the WK guns twin-linked which would be quite useful.