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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/27 13:56:44
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25118156
The US authorities have studied online sexual activity and suggested exposing porn site visits as a way to discredit people who spread radical views, the Huffington Post news site has reported.
It published a document, leaked by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden, identifying two Muslims said to be vulnerable to accusations of "online promiscuity".
An official said this was unsurprising.
But campaign group Privacy International called it "frightening".
"Without discussing specific individuals, it should not be surprising that the US government uses all of the lawful tools at our disposal to impede the efforts of valid terrorist targets who seek to harm the nation and radicalise others to violence," Shawn Turner, director of public affairs for National Intelligence, told the Huffington Post.
Continue reading the main story
Microsoft encryption
Microsoft is considering rolling out new encryption initiatives, according to a report in the Washington Post.
It says Microsoft is concerned about a programme called Muscular alleged to involve the NSA and GCHQ working together to intercept data from the private cables connecting companies' computer servers.
Google and Yahoo have already announced similar moves.
By digitally scrambling the information, the companies would make it harder for the agencies to make sense of intercepted files, potentially making the cyber-spies more reliant on formal requests.
However, both the NSA and GCHQ are also known to be working on counter-encryption efforts.
A spokeswoman for Microsoft was unable to comment at this time.
Privacy International said: "This is not the first time we've seen States use intimate and private information of an individual who holds views the government doesn't agree with, and exploit this information to undermine an individual's message."
The report came shortly after a group of United Nations experts adopted a "right to privacy" resolution.
The UN's Human Rights Committee said it was "deeply concerned at the negative impact" the interception of data "including extraterritorial surveillance" could have "`in particular when carried out on a mass scale".
The resolution will be passed by the UN's General Assembly before the end of the year, but is largely symbolic since it is not legally binding.
'Sexually explicit'
The latest of Mr Snowden's leaked document is dated October 2012 and says it was distributed by the office of the director of the NSA to other US government officials.
Edward Snowden's leaks have prompted anti-surveillance demonstrations in several countries
It names six Muslims whom it describes as "prominent, globally resonating foreign radicalisers" about whom surveillance efforts had revealed potential "vulnerabilities that can be exploited".
It says the information is largely based on gathered "Sunni extremist communications", including material sourced by the FBI.
"Some of the vulnerabilities, if exposed, would likely call into question a radicaliser's devotion to the jihadist cause, leading to the degradation or loss of his authority," it says.
One example is evidence of the target "viewing sexually explicit material online or using sexually explicit persuasive language when communicating with inexperienced young girls".
Others include proof of the target:
- using donations to pay personal expenses
- charging exorbitant speaking fees
- using questionable sources and contradictory language in public messages
- None of the six individuals who appear in the report are accused of being directly involved in terrorism.
But the document says one of the two said to have been involved in "online promiscuity" had previously been imprisoned for inciting hatred against non-Muslims, and the other had been involved in promoting al-Qaeda propaganda.
Of the four other targets, one is said to be vulnerable to being exposed for being "attracted to fame" and another for having a "glamorous lifestyle".
GCHQ says its own net surveillance efforts are authorised and proportionate to the threat of terrorism
Privacy International spokesman Mike Rispoli said: What is frightening about the NSA's capabilities are that they collect massive amounts of information on everyone, including your political beliefs, contacts, relationships, and internet histories.
"While these documents suggest this type of personal attacks are targeted in nature, do not forget that the NSA is conducting mass surveillance on the entire world and collecting a vast amount of information on nearly everyone."
A spokeswoman for the NSA's UK equivalent - GCHQ - declined to comment on details of the Huffington Post's report.
But she highlighted the UK government's Counter-Terrorism Strategy, which discusses using the internet to gather evidence against individuals in order to challenge terrorist propaganda.
"All of GCHQ's work is carried out in accordance with a strict legal and policy framework which ensures that its activities are authorised, necessary and proportionate, and that there is rigorous oversight," she added.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/27 14:01:54
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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You have to admit they're inventive. Maybe Obama could hire a few NSA guys to fix the Obamacare site.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/27 14:02:09
Subject: Re:NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Someone else knows about the deviant stuff you're into, as well.
Dreadclaw69 wrote:Of the four other targets, one is said to be vulnerable to being exposed for being "attracted to fame" and another for having a "glamorous lifestyle".
Oh man, a Kim Kardashian Drone strike will make this the best Thanksgiving ever.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/27 14:04:31
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Frazzled wrote:You have to admit they're inventive. Maybe Obama could hire a few NSA guys to fix the Obamacare site.
Maybe they should have taken the chimpanzees trying to type Shakespeare and sat them in front of a computer instead
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/27 14:39:24
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Battlefield Tourist
MN (Currently in WY)
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Wait, would anyone be shocked or surprised that people look at online Porn?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/27 19:29:10
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Imperial Admiral
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Easy E wrote:Wait, would anyone be shocked or surprised that people look at online Porn?
No, which is why this wouldn't be effective against most people, and why the NSA didn't bother looking up your porn-watching history.
Against radical Muslims who preach against such stuff, however...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/27 19:42:30
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Lieutenant Colonel
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little hint here,
even if you DONT look at pron, if they wanna railroad you, guess what?
the record will show you like to visit 2donkeys+tranny-infants.com
even people who dont care about "pron" will care about the illegal/way immoral forms of it.
in other news, people still think the internet has privacy.... and that its not literally under the beck and call of all the departments made during the post DARPA phase of the internet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 01:11:39
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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It's the most effective and bloodless way to rid yourself of political enemies ever.
It would be so incredibly easy for them to plant stuff on your computer, then say they caught you and you would just disapear and be branded a monster the rest of your life.
I started wondering whether this was happening when there was that sudden outbreak of political/military figures being busted for child porn a few years ago.
It's one of those things that is so heinous that you are immediately seen as guilty as soon as the charges are spoken. And even if acquitted (doubtful as they would have your hard drives with the 'evidence') you would have already lost everything that mattered and never recover.
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking. = Epic First Post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 12:01:38
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Dakka Veteran
Anime High School
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This world is falling apart. Where is the mystery and intrigue of the Cold War, where the very existence of organizations like the NRO and the NSA were top secret? I hate this. There are things normal people have no business knowing.
Just dismantle the NSA, take all the contractors out of the mix, and create something new to draw all this attention away from the acronym.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 13:40:35
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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They try to observe my porn browsings?
More fool them
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Free from GW's tyranny and the hobby is looking better for it
DR:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Pww205++D++A+++/sWD146R++T(T)D+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 13:42:43
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They could at least post a link to what they were looking at...
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0181/12/31 13:52:53
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Old Sourpuss
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kronk wrote:They could at least post a link to what they were looking at...
Perhaps a 24 hour trial code even!
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DR:80+S++G+M+B+I+Pwmhd11#++D++A++++/sWD-R++++T(S)DM+

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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 14:12:42
Subject: Re:NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Hallowed Canoness
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Come NSA! Let us play a game. Seriously though, someone needs to melt their server farms
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 19:16:39
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Kid_Kyoto
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easysauce wrote:little hint here,
even if you DONT look at pron, if they wanna railroad you, guess what?
the record will show you like to visit 2donkeys+tranny-infants.com
even people who dont care about "pron" will care about the illegal/way immoral forms of it.
in other news, people still think the internet has privacy.... and that its not literally under the beck and call of all the departments made during the post DARPA phase of the internet.
DING DING DING! We have a winner. Doesn't even matter if you're doing it, because they're the ones writing the facts. Prove otherwise.
If they wanted to get really creative, there are ways to do things like MITM attacks to make sure that you actually do see that kiddy porn, even if you're looking at some other site.
The really crazy thing when you start thinking about it is that they don't even NEED to have a system capable of doing all the monitoring and scaryscary stuff it does. They just need to convince everyone out there that they do. The biggest majority of people will never be affected by it, and so they'll keep doing their whatever, hoping that they just go under the radar, and then the few people, Congressmen, MPs, whoever, just heed the beck and call when necessary lest the "evidence" gets leaked to the public during election year.
THAT'S how you co-opt a democracy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 19:21:18
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Solahma
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An old-fashioned example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bork_Supreme_Court_nomination During debate over his nomination, Bork's video rental history was leaked to the press, which led to the enactment of the 1988 Video Privacy Protection Act. His video rental history was unremarkable, and included such harmless titles as A Day at the Races, Ruthless People, and The Man Who Knew Too Much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 19:38:54
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Manchu wrote:An old-fashioned example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bork_Supreme_Court_nomination
During debate over his nomination, Bork's video rental history was leaked to the press, which led to the enactment of the 1988 Video Privacy Protection Act. His video rental history was unremarkable, and included such harmless titles as A Day at the Races, Ruthless People, and The Man Who Knew Too Much.
sad...
what I take away from that more then anything else is...
who names their kid "Bob Bork" LOL
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 19:41:59
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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And that is why ctrl-alt-n is needed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 19:42:56
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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I'm sure that works for the information that the NSA has stored on its servers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/06 21:21:45
Subject: NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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Remove all the servers coolant systems? I have a friend who melted his CP by forgetting to plug in half his......
And Kalashikovmarine, +1 Exalt on me, that was great
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Free from GW's tyranny and the hobby is looking better for it
DR:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Pww205++D++A+++/sWD146R++T(T)D+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/06 21:59:20
Subject: Re:NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use'
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Kid_Kyoto
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Someone needs to make some thermite hard drive platters.
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