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I can't seem to build a competitive build with what I have. I recently started playing and can't seem to find a good rhythm. Well I'll list my entire inventory, hope I have enough to make something decent. Any tips would help. 1750pts/ Probably range type of player, although I do like melee from time to time. I like salamander and iron hands

10 tac ML/ flamer (black reach set)

10 tac ML

10 tac ML

10 tac PC/PG (dark veangence set)

5 term CF and a AC (dark vengeance set)

5 term CF and a cyclone ML

5 term SB/PF (convertable to 5 LC)

5 term TH/SS

5 vanguard 2 with PF/LC combo sgt with relic blade

10 sternguard

5 dev 2 LC 2 ML

5 dev 3 HB (2 spare plasma cannon)

7 scouts 7 snipers

6 cents grav cannon w/grav amps

6 bikes (dark vengeance set)

1 aegis quad gun

1 chap with jump

1 chap in term armor

1 psyker

1 vulkan

1 cpt (black reach)

1 tech marine

1 shadow cpt shrike

2 dreadnought w/multi melta

1 iron clad

2 whirlwind/ rhino

1 storm raven

1 storm eagle

2 storm talon

1 landraider

1 landraider crusader/ redeemer

What kind of points list are you looking for?

Also it seems like you have enough models to build really any list, minus drop pods

Points are a must in order to help, please post.
Is there any chapter you like in particular?

Not only do you need to supply the points you'd like to see built, but you need to state how you like to play. Do you like in your face builds? Or sit back and dig in builds? Happy medium between those two? You need to supply some more info to get help.

1750 Probably range type of player. Although i do like melee from time to time. I like salamander and iron hands

You have many models and can build various lists but not a specific list (for example white scar bikes or SM air force)
Salamanders require drop pods to play at their strength, so i would recommend Iron Hands (marines with extra resilience!)

I would play the game of "many boots on the ground and you will have a hard time taking them down"

Librarian
3 Tac squads in Rhinos (mostly meltas, MMs)
1 sternguard squad in Rhino (no combi-weapons)
2 Stormtalons skyhammer ML
1 Bike squad full gravs
4 grav centurions
Stormraven AC, MM and hurricane bolters

You can calculate costs, but with some tweaking it will come around 1850
It covers pretty well most bases(scoring bodies, anti-air, -horde, -vehicle, -MC, -elite infantry
What i believe you need is more transports for the marines. While Vehicles are not what they used to be, marines certainly need their metal coffins. Even if it takes them 18" away first turn and then blows up.

Have you considered deathwing? You have enough termis....
All you'd need is Belial

Brother Payne wrote:
Have you considered deathwing? You have enough termis....
All you'd need is Belial

Hey, we are talking about competitive lists here

Hey. .. I hate being unable to defend my DW :(.


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you could do a mix wing for DA. 2-3 squads of DW. 2-3 squads of tacs with a banner of dev. and 1-2 squads of bikes/black knights.


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Iron hands 2k.

2 10 man tac w/ plasma or melta (forget the heavy weapon)
(look into getting some rhinos)
2 dreads (either in pods or w/ 2 TL auto cannons)
1 ironclad.
2 land raiders w/ terminators inside,
1 storm raven with a tac unit inside.
maybe?

Hmm he could go landraider spam. AV14 will catch some people out. Dunno but I think it will be a long painful road being competitive running termis.

So essentially, for me to take advantage of what I got I need drop pods and/or rhino's?

What are the latest best tactics for SM?

You could do a rreally nice AV12/13/14 mobile IH list.

Not pointed it up but something like this could be a fun:
1 Chap. Terminator.

10 tac ML
10 tac ML w/Rhino
10 tac PC/PG w/Rhino

1 IronClad
5 TH/SS
5 vanguard 2 with PF/LC combo sgt with relic blade

6 bikes
2 storm talon

1 Stormraven
3 Grav Centurions

Stormraven has a choice of cargo probably Ironclad+Termis which can hit the table anywhere in 36" of the board edge on arrival. The Talons run escort on the Raven and the Vanguard. You have T5 FnP bikers, Regen. vehicles.

3 sets of tough troops with decent mobility, and an AV12 plasma box.

draegen wrote:
What are the latest best tactics for SM?

That is a very good question. Bikes seem to be the rage because they have better toughness.

I know Space Marines are supposed to be easy to play and all. But there is so much heavy firepower out there from Eldar etc, to play SM well needs some serious skill(which I lack XD).

HQ:
Librarian Lv. 2 - 100 pts

Chaplain - 126 pts
Terminator Armour
Combi Flamer

Troops:
10x Man Tac - 200 pts
w/ PG, Combi Plasma
Rhino

10x Man Tac - 190 pts
w/ Flamer, Combi Flamer
Rhino

5x Man Scout Squad - 70 pts
5x Cloaks/Sniper Rifles

Elites:
Terminator Squad - 225 pts
w/ TH/SS

Fast Attack:
Stormtalon - 125 pts
Skyhammer ML

Stormtalon - 125 pts
Skyhammer ML

5x Man Bike Squad - 135 pts
2x Plasma Guns

Heavy Support:

Land Raider Redeemer - 240 pts

5x Man Devastator Squad - 110 pts
2x LC

5x Man Devastator Squad - 110 pts
2x PC

This is 1746 Points. Devastators hide in the back bringing pain down. Scouts occupy a back objective. Land Raider w/ Termis and Chaplain go forward assaulting a scary unit with the Librarian coming if he wants. The Plasma Tac Squad tries to get an objective and spits out plasma shots. The Flamer Tac is there to kill hordes/ go up forward and be aggressive. The Plasma bikes put out plasma shots. The Stormtalons are to control fliers.

If you're in a freindly gaming group why not try a successor chapter, i play raptors who are a raven guard successor chapter and they suit me down to the ground, exactly my style of play and their are some powerful chapter tactics out there. failing that grav gun bikers, podding sternguard with combis and the good old thunderfire cannon are all good investments, although i never fare well with the tfc

Ty guys I really do appreciate your inputs. I do plan on getting like 2 drop pods and like 2 TFC's

The list Feasible gave you is well balanced and tac. You have all those models. Just roll with that for a while before you buy more and confuse yoursel further.

How about this list?

2000 pts

Iron Hands (Raukaan):

1 MotF w/ ironstone (warlord)

1 Chap term w/ gorgon's chain

6 A Term 4 TH/SS 2 LC

1 LRC

10 Tac w/ melta and rhino

10 Tac w/ melta and rhino

6 Dev Cents w/ grav cannon

White Scars:

1 Ahazra Redth

5 Scouts w/ snipe

5 Bikes w/ 2 grav guns sgt w/ melta bomb

Idea is have the MotF, Chap, and terms in the LRC.

Ahazra with the Cents giving them night vision, prescience, intercept, and shrouded.

Tacs will be combat squad inside the rhino.

The LRC and bikes push fast and harass. The cents follow up and also deal with any reserves. The Rhino's can drop Tac on strat points and harass with the last 5 with the melta. Any thoughts or tips?