| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 09:56:03
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases
|
 |
[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
|
http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions/Tau-Fireblade-Support-Cadre.html
Tau combat doctrine places great emphasis on defeating enemy forces using superior firepower and technological advantage. At the heart of this method of warfare are their battlesuits; giant mechanical suits that are armed with the most powerful Tau weaponry. Foremost among these are the terrifying XV104 Riptide and XV88 Broadside battlesuits, capable of demolishing enemy battle lines and armour in a blaze of particle beams and howling sub-munitions.
The Tau Fireblade Support Cadre Dataslate presents the rules for fielding this advanced formation in your games of Warhammer 40,000, the cadre containing the impressive XV104 Riptide supported by six Broadside battlesuits, a terrifying prospect for any opponent to face!
COMPATIBILITY:
This eBook digital edition is compatible with most current generation mobile devices, tablets, computers and eReaders including Android, Kindle and iBooks devices. The exact look and layout of the eBook will depend on the eReader being used.
.. hmm... less impressed with this offering.
|
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 10:04:01
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Drone without a Controller
|
I bought the Tau Fireblade Support Cadre and I am happy about it.
The way these dataslates work is nice. Basically this one is a formation which can be used in normal games and doesn't take FOC slots, but doesn't prevent you from taking allies detachment. It has two nice rules.
|
29-05-12 Tau Empire 4th Ed.
06-01-03 Tau Empire 6th Ed.
10-00-01 Eldar 4th Ed.
00-00-00 Eldar 6th Ed.
UCM 01-00-02 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 10:11:21
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
|
Now, if we can get an Annilation Barge support cadre that doesn't take up FOC slots....
Fear the 6+ Abarges!
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 10:21:10
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Douglas Bader
|
Awesome, because what Tau needed most was a way to take Riptides and missilesides without having to spend FOC slots on them...
Edit: WTF, and it gives them powerful extra bonuses on top of that? WHY GW WHY.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/02 10:22:27
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 10:21:32
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Drone without a Controller
|
18 Broadsides in less than 1750 point game. Not bad...
anyway, the formation runs less than 600 points without upgrades / drones. There seems not to be a limit in how many such formation one can take.
Rules also say that any army can take these formations, example is a primary SM detachment with allied IG and a Tau formation. Just beware of the alliance system. Add the inquisition and you have four armies on the table...
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/02 10:24:11
29-05-12 Tau Empire 4th Ed.
06-01-03 Tau Empire 6th Ed.
10-00-01 Eldar 4th Ed.
00-00-00 Eldar 6th Ed.
UCM 01-00-02 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 10:38:31
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
|
So GW finally gave me a way to field fethtons of broadsides and a riptide, and still be able to rock hammerheads and crisis suits then?
Not sure if I should be happy about that or if I should hate this idea even more. I also can't help but feel that those rules really should have been in the box to begin with...like $290 isn't enough, they have to have that extra $4 or they just can't pay out another dividend.
Well in any case I have a feeling this might be the month 40k dies, lol. Overpowered DLC coming out every day for a month, Escalation on top of that making overpowered super heavies a legal part of the game (assuming it isn't an expansion that can be ignored like all the others)...feth me.
Peregrine wrote:Awesome, because what Tau needed most was a way to take Riptides and missilesides without having to spend FOC slots on them...
Edit: WTF, and it gives them powerful extra bonuses on top of that? WHY GW WHY.
Yeah, Tank Hunters and Preferred Enemy: Space Marines (which get Hatred for them). I like Tank Hunters on railsides, almost makes them seem worth using again, but it makes the missilesides even better, too, so...
And no limit on formations? So basically Apocalypse in 40k finally happened and we didn't even have to wait for 7th edition?
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/12/02 10:46:37
Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 10:50:35
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
|
This is gettng borderline insane.
I don't be to be the "The Sky is falling guy" but yeah, this is not looking good.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 11:05:12
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
|
Well Peregrine, look at it this way: maybe now people won't be so scared of Forge World anymore, lol...
If there's anyone left.
So what's next, I assume the other holiday bundles will get special rules. Anyone want to guess what bonuses the Space Marine flyer formation will get? Also, how many wraithknights can you field in an Eldar army now assuming their box also has no limits and doesn't count as an allied detachment? 4, 5?
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/12/02 11:07:05
Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 11:13:07
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Disguised Speculo
|
Wow, quinttide lists... never thought it'd actually happen
Whenever stupid gak comes out, people say the meta will adapt... but can it possibly even adapt to gak like this?
And what are the Orks getting?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 11:34:42
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
In the beginning, GW made rules just for the purpose of playing your models/whole collection on the table.
Well, now they do it again. For a price.
Nothing really surprising, in fact. About game balance, well...nothing new again. It's not like they never talked about how much they care about competitive games, after all.
The bright side is that it shows you can create a lot of "fan made rules" for your casual games and just talking with your opponent about using them. It's free, after all, and the result won't be much different from what you can have here. You know, since it's obvious they didn't test those on the long term.
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/12/02 11:35:25
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 11:46:20
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Dakka Veteran
|
sooo first heretic, then xeno. I hope the guard get some love.
|
The plural of codex is codexes.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 11:50:43
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
And if we're lucky, maybe some sisters of battle!
Oh wait...They had a digital codex not so long ago. No need to give new shiny things for the girls, then.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 11:52:36
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Focused Fire Warrior
|
I just don't even.... What the...
Normally I'm borderline White Knighting GW but this just seems waaaay too weird. Obviously OP DLC for 24 days in a row? Especially that Broadside/Riptide thing just seems crazy.
Hope the general consensus is that this is just "Christmas giggles" and should be treated like Apoc or Spearhead (i.e. just ignored  ).
|
Saddened on behalf of all the Ultramarines, Salamanders and White Scars players who got their Codex rolled into Codex: Black Templars. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 11:56:10
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
|
Let's be honest guys - the Tau do need a boost, and really the limits on how many Riptides they can field right now are just ludicrously silly. This frees up the army a bit more, and allows those who purchased multiple Riptides to actually use them at the same time. (/sarcasm) But seriously, this means a Tau player can field how many Riptides in a single army now? 12?
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/12/02 11:59:28
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 11:56:46
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
|
Guard are already getting baneblades. Escalation is listed as a supplement and not an expansion, so I'm imagining the whole "You can ignore it like Planetstrike, etc." argument isn't going to work anymore, unless you also ban codex supplements.
|
Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 11:59:15
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Focused Fire Warrior
|
Well, perhaps it's time to ban them as well then because this is just ridiculous...
Looking forward to the tournament metas take on this.
|
Saddened on behalf of all the Ultramarines, Salamanders and White Scars players who got their Codex rolled into Codex: Black Templars. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:04:19
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Los Angeles, CA
|
So this formation doesn't take up any FoC? Or is it 1 heavy support?
|
6400 Pts
4300 Pts
3200 Pts
2600 Pts
3080 Pts 30k
2460 Pts AoS Chaos Grand Alliance
2680 Pts AoS Sylvaneth |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:05:23
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
|
H.B.M.C. wrote:But seriously, this means a Tau player can field how many Riptides in a single army now? 12?
Well, you also have to take two three-man teams (not counting drones) of broadsides to make the formation. So I guess you could take 12 if points allowed, but you'd likely be playing at stupidly high levels anyway, like 5,000+.
But every army can take the Tau formation, though they follow the rules in the alliance chart. And since there's no limit for formations and they don't count as allied detachments it means literally every army in the game can run multiple riptides, lmao.
Noctem wrote:So this formation doesn't take up any FoC? Or is it 1 heavy support?
No, it exists outside the FOC apparently. All you do is pay the points for however you want them equipped and you get two special rules.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/02 12:06:07
Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:05:26
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Human Auxiliary to the Empire
Uxbridge UK
|
Nope, doesn't take up a FOC slot, and you can take as many as you want.
|
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted - John Lennon |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:08:06
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
Checking the legality of one's army list is quickly becoming very fiddly.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:08:10
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Dakka Veteran
|
Sasori wrote:This is gettng borderline insane.
I don't be to be the "The Sky is falling guy" but yeah, this is not looking good.
+1. I'm not sure if the game is worth playing if it's all pay-to-win with new shiny balance rapeages dropping every month. And it's not like it was balanced or cheap before..
Looks like they're now making these rules just to be able to market more bundles on their website  "You were totally missing one more Riptide and half a dozen battlesuits! One click bundle here!"
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/02 12:10:22
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:08:13
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
Parma, OH
|
A Tau player can easily field this list now
Ethereal
HBC Riptide, Interceptor
HBC Riptide, Interceptor
HBC Riptide, Interceptor
10 Kroot, Sniper rounds, hound
10 Kroot, Sniper rounds, hound
10 Kroot, Sniper rounds, hound
10 Kroot, Sniper rounds, hound
10 Kroot, Sniper rounds, hound
3 Broadside, Missiles, Interceptor
3 Broadside, Missiles, Interceptor
3 Broadside, Missiles, Interceptor
3 Broadside, Missiles, Interceptor
Thats 48 Twin-linked Str 7 shots with Tank Hunter and 48 Twin Linked Str 5 Tank Hunter shots that ignore cover each turn. That doesn't even factor in the Riptides. That also reroll 1's to wound space marines. Ouch!
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:16:36
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Los Angeles, CA
|
That's nuts, I'll have to snag this and see the two rules. I'm not sure if I want to go buy 3 more Broadsides though...
I mean, what they are doing is trying to merge Apoc with regular 40k. You would basically play these new formations in massive point lists with escalation adding super heavies.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/02 12:18:09
6400 Pts
4300 Pts
3200 Pts
2600 Pts
3080 Pts 30k
2460 Pts AoS Chaos Grand Alliance
2680 Pts AoS Sylvaneth |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:19:23
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Preacher of the Emperor
|
Sarouan wrote:And if we're lucky, maybe some sisters of battle!
Oh wait...They had a digital codex not so long ago. No need to give new shiny things for the girls, then. 
Not gonna lie, I'm keeping an eye on this thing mostly out of hopes that something will be thrown their way.
I'd also settle for a good BL story, though.
|
Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:30:22
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
|
Troike wrote:Not gonna lie, I'm keeping an eye on this thing mostly out of hopes that something will be thrown their way.  Prepare for the return of Redemptor Kyrinov. He'll cost 260 points, have T3, 2 wounds and no Eternal Warrior! But he'll get his own special Warlord Traits table with such amazing things as "Kyrinov and his unit cause Fear".
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/12/02 12:31:20
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:31:53
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
Parma, OH
|
If I'm reading the Formation rule right, your Broadsides won't give up extra Victory Points in Big Guns Never Tire because they no longer take up a Heavy Support choice. They can't score either but thats actually a pretty good trade off I think.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:32:38
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Human Auxiliary to the Empire
Uxbridge UK
|
No, Squats will get a digital Mini-dex, but no new models. *startsscouringebaynow*
|
Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted - John Lennon |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:36:38
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Prepare for the return of Redemptor Kyrinov. He'll cost 260 points, have T3, 2 wounds and no Eternal Warrior! But he'll get his own special Warlord Traits table with such amazing things as "Kyrinov and his unit cause Fear".
Yeah, and Tyranids will be able to take him as an Ally! That means the Nids would have something for december.
Now, we can charge 10$ for all the readers just because of those awesome rules we made. Come on, don't be cheap!
|
|
This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/12/02 12:38:38
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:40:19
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Preacher of the Emperor
|
H.B.M.C. wrote:Prepare for the return of Redemptor Kyrinov. He'll cost 260 points, have T3, 2 wounds and no Eternal Warrior! But he'll get his own special Warlord Traits table with such amazing things as "Kyrinov and his unit cause Fear". 
Doubtful. With the current thing of "no model= no rules", he probably won't be making his return for a while.
|
Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 12:46:47
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 2 " TAU FIREBLADE SUPPORT CADRE"
|
 |
Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
|
People wonder what orcs get......looted tau cadre  . Seriously go buy the $5.00 toy robots from Walmart, and use cardboard from GW boxes of friends to make them more grim dark. If anyone complains then show them WIP pics of all the GW product you used to build the army
|
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
|
|
 |
 |
|
|