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Between this and Escalation, I'm beginning to see what the "GW = pay to win" crowd is talking about.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Between this and Escalation, I'm beginning to see what the "GW = pay to win" crowd is talking about.

I can see this definitely being a pay to win sort of thing, but if all that matters is having fun and it's the same with your buddies, then play with whatever rule sets you want. I mean, an Escalation match with formations might be really fun and if you have a huge army already, why not? If you have smaller armies, you definitely wouldn't play Escalation.

 Troike wrote:
Doubtful. With the current thing of "no model= no rules", he probably won't be making his return for a while.

*sigh*

Went over your head didn't it?

Noctem wrote:
That's nuts, I'll have to snag this and see the two rules. I'm not sure if I want to go buy 3 more Broadsides though...

I mean, what they are doing is trying to merge Apoc with regular 40k. You would basically play these new formations in massive point lists with escalation adding super heavies.

The formation gets Tank Hunters and "Bane of Angels" which is essentially Preferred Enemy: Space Marines (and SM get Hatred: Tau Firebase Support Cadre, with "Space Marines" being defined as the obvious: SM, BA, DA, GK, SW).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
*sigh*

Went over your head didn't it?

No, I understood the humorous intent, but thought it was worth clarifying.

I hope they release a compendium of these dataslates.. I got no idea how to run this as a TO because no one player is going to have every rule now, and I'm not spending 75$ for 25 new units..Eventually we'll run into a problem where rules aren't even available yet are still legal?

This is beyond borderline annoying. Oh well, we praised them for giving us a 30$ inquisition book with 5 units.. so they've rewarded us with 3-4$ for 1 page digital rules that cost nothing to produce.

Well, based on the BL offerings from last year they'll probably be around for a while. It's not like they need to spend time printing a fresh run at any point so it'd be silly (even for GW) to do them as a limited run.

We may even see a collection put together of all the 'new' units after the end of the calendar.

I'm surprised GW doesn't do something like "revised" codex printings or something, seems like it would be up there alley. Make slight balance tweaks, correct typos, add in FAQ/Errata and new formations or other rules and then make people pay $50 to basically buy their codex again...and again...and again.

Well, they do kinda do that, but every 5+ years. I mean more like every year or two, change practically nothing and sell people a new book. Or do they have just enough foresight to realize that people wouldn't buy that?

OR WOULD THEY? Limited Edition Revised Printing version 3! Limited to 500 copies worldwide, buy now for only $400!

During the chapterhouse lawsuit they claimed they weren't a gaming company, but a company that just produces miniatures.. Seems like they sure are producing a lot of rules for a pure miniature company!

Collectible rules snippets?

 Shandara wrote:
Collectible rules snippets?

Gotta catch 'em all?

I think there must be some sort of rules misunderstanding somewhere... there is no way that they are letting people take a primary detachment, plus an allied detachment, plus a Lord of War, plus an Inquisition formation, plus a Tau formation, plus a fortification, plus a XYZ formation... just... no.

Maybe they can release dataslates on gold cards with an aquila etched on the back.. 40k legal limited time only, 15$ each.

Want to use your Squats? Well we have a special edition dataslate for use with your Imperial Guard army. Squat Bikes! 5$ for the rules for the bike, and 7$ rules for the rider! (Need both to play)

Cypher looks to be hinted at as returning from the white dwarf daily video.

 Kirasu wrote:
Maybe they can release dataslates on gold cards with an aquila etched on the back.. 40k legal limited time only, 15$ each.

Want to use your Squats? Well we have a special edition dataslate for use with your Imperial Guard army. Squat Bikes! 5$ for the rules for the bike, and 7$ rules for the rider! (Need both to play)

JUST TAKE MY MONEY! AND MY FIRSTBORN! JUST GIMME THE STUFFS!

Sorry, got quite excited by the Squats reference.

 yankeedave wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Maybe they can release dataslates on gold cards with an aquila etched on the back.. 40k legal limited time only, 15$ each.

Want to use your Squats? Well we have a special edition dataslate for use with your Imperial Guard army. Squat Bikes! 5$ for the rules for the bike, and 7$ rules for the rider! (Need both to play)

JUST TAKE MY MONEY! AND MY FIRSTBORN! JUST GIMME THE STUFFS!

Sorry, got quite excited by the Squats reference.

I'll send you my paypal email and then I'll PM you some rules.

How does paypal work with Firstborns?

Back on topic - do we think that there will be more rulesets for the other holiday boxes?

Damn this is messed up, you can have an army with 5 riptides and this....


I think that's a bit too much info, alas.

Reds8n

scarletsquig wrote:£3 for the rules for one mini?

Sounds like an excellent strategy to secure profitability for the company going forward by creating a small impulse purchase category of digital product that takes effectively zero effort to create or distribute and, when combined with a marketing campaign based around xmas, should prove to be rather lucrative.

I congratulate GW on their novel efforts to generate superior dividend yields.

pretre wrote:There's no such thing as 'a WD thing' anymore. WD has been dead since the revamp (and dying for years before that).

Codex Be'Lakor must be the rare opportunity for me to post a negative opinion without being personally attacked by you two

Kirasu wrote:Why even do a codex just do booklets for every single unit entry at 3$.

Seems you figured out GW's plans for future Codex and armybook releases
And when the digital Codex will be finally released for 100$, some people will say that it is 50$ cheaper than buying all unit rules as single files

Slayer le boucher wrote:Darn what must DnD players say?, they must have the books+ campaigne+Playerbooks 1,2,3 etc and their printed stuff for their characters, and you don't here them complain about it, heavy things gives you muscles, remember that kids.

They will say that D&D is a cooperative game unlike 40k, so you don't "win" D&D just because you paid for an extra file.

Swissivy wrote:The way these dataslates work is nice. Basically this one is a formation which can be used in normal games and doesn't take FOC slots, but doesn't prevent you from taking allies detachment.

So you can take big Apocalypse formations outside FOC in regular games now?

This also just happened:

Games Workshop: Digital Editions
Hey guys,
We’ve got an early Christmas present for you fans of Middle-Earth out there.

The full rules for all the models from The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey rules manual, available as a completely free download.

This means you just need a copy of Goblin Town (or any earlier Lord of the Rings rulebook) to use them in your games.

Enjoy!

 Kroothawk wrote:

So you can take big Apocalypse formations outside FOC in regular games now?

Yeah its a free detachment, and the rules say you can take any number of these detachments. So Tau can take the fireblade cadre, an inquisitorial detachment and ally with Tau, Eldar or Space marines.

and this is only day 2 of 25, there is still 23 days left of this stupidity.

the level of butthurt in this thread warms my heart on these cold december nights. Dakka, never change

i like to think of a games developer in nottingham, who pestered and harassed his boss with this advent calender idea - a snipped of rules every day for a month, giving the fans some new fluffy rules to play around with.

He googles 'gw digital advent calender' to see how people feel about it, if people are happy with his work. Then he reads this thread, takes off his belt and hangs himself.

Oh boy, i can has special characters now for just 4, 99 $ !

This is going to make tournament ruling even weirder

So they're giving rules to their bundle sets in an effort to force their sale... well, I wonder what the Eldar one will get? Ghost warriors, the'yll probably all have stealth and shrouded.. Tank Hunter, Ignores cover, invuln saves.

 Kanluwen wrote:
This also just happened:

Games Workshop: Digital Editions
Hey guys,
We’ve got an early Christmas present for you fans of Middle-Earth out there.

The full rules for all the models from The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey rules manual, available as a completely free download.

This means you just need a copy of Goblin Town (or any earlier Lord of the Rings rulebook) to use them in your games.

Enjoy!

This is something I just found! Legitimately something cool and free from GW... but hey, if you stick to WFB and 40K you can't be expected to get the cool stuff XD

 Matt1785 wrote:
So they're giving rules to their bundle sets in an effort to force their sale... well, I wonder what the Eldar one will get? Ghost warriors, the'yll probably all have stealth and shrouded.. Tank Hunter, Ignores cover, invuln saves.

If this turns out to be the case, the double Stormtalon/Stormraven box will make Wolves really solid again.

 Matt1785 wrote:
So they're giving rules to their bundle sets in an effort to force their sale... well, I wonder what the Eldar one will get? Ghost warriors, the'yll probably all have stealth and shrouded.. Tank Hunter, Ignores cover, invuln saves.

Nah.. they can save time by just going to payment tiers.

Spend 5$, pick a unit.. It gains X special rule. You must bring your receipt with you to each game!

Spend 50$, pick an army, that army can join any other army without using an ally slot.. and you get divination and servo skulls on one character for free. (Only usable if you own the limited edition codex of the army)

so, will these be available outside of december?

And.. if I decide in a week that I MUSTHAVE the Tau page.. will I be able to get it?

-P

Ahhhhhhh. Games Workshop has finally discovered the magic of "Downloadable Content.

It can finally take its place on the pedestal, alongside Activision and EA Games.

Last year, they made the whole Advent calendar of 25 short stories and audio dramas available as a bundle. I'd imagine this year will see the same thing. However, just to be safe, pick up the ones you want as they come out. Or at least that's what the bigwigs up in Nottingham will say.