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But do the Stormwing get a Chapter Tactic? Three flyers with It Will Not Die should be properly hilarious.

I'm sure you'll have nothing to worry about. They gotta sell them new plastic kits they've worked so hard on when Nids are released.

DaddyWarcrimes wrote:
But do the Stormwing get a Chapter Tactic?

They don't.

Hey guys, this photo was making the rounds yesterday on tg. It obviously lines up with today's release and matches many of the formation releases they've done.

The formation doesn't Benifit from ANY chapter tactics, and models from codex marines can go in it and others have put up the rest.

I read a lot of people on here and elsewhere bemoaning these sheets but they still cost points to add so this one (storm wing) will set you back ~500pts but you still need a FoC legal list as well, so the question becomes what do you drop to take these?

Are they good and fun I'd say yes, plus it give an excuse to get something different and play in a different way.

 Ravenous D wrote:
I hope nids are busted as hell, because they get none of this junk.

Maybe they will... They wont be able to ally but...

Every Nid kit will come with a "Hive mind Synapse control node" biomorph. Just glue that thing to your riptide and your good to go. Forge those narratives.

Exactly.

All the narratives...

I have to go to the emergency room.

I have narratives coming out of my nose.

 magodedisco wrote:
Hey guys, this photo was making the rounds yesterday on tg. It obviously lines up with today's release and matches many of the formation releases they've done.

Welp, nothing special...
Be'Lakor first one and the best one?

 magodedisco wrote:
Hey guys, this photo was making the rounds yesterday on tg. It obviously lines up with today's release and matches many of the formation releases they've done.

4 days for the wraith formation. Excellent.

This is only up to day 14 too, means there is still 11 more.

 Kirasu wrote:
Hm I hope the Tempestus firebase gets rules since I actually bought that boxset..It didn't even come with the rules for the fortifications wtf.. you get those when you buy them individually.

REALLY? I've ordered one of those, if that happens I'm straight on the phone to GW.

Interesting.

The Reclusiam Command Squad has been out since the Space Marine Codex released.

I wonder if they have had these dataslates planned since then, or if this set getting a dataslate is a response to the set not selling well?

I'd go with the last option, Kanluwen.

 Brometheus wrote:
I'd go with the last option, Kanluwen.

Seconded.

Can I take this with my DA or is it just for C:SM?

You can take it, Nashole.. You can take SM as allies normally, right?

 Brometheus wrote:
You can take it, Nashole.. You can take SM as allies normally, right?

True, thanks!

Bull0 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Hm I hope the Tempestus firebase gets rules since I actually bought that boxset..It didn't even come with the rules for the fortifications wtf.. you get those when you buy them individually.

REALLY? I've ordered one of those, if that happens I'm straight on the phone to GW.

I bought this, and can confirm no rules. However, I emailed GW and had PDFs of the rules within half an hour, so good on them.

I am happy they did that for you, UltraPrime

Skullhammer wrote:
The formation doesn't Benifit from ANY chapter tactics, and models from codex marines can go in it and others have put up the rest.

I read a lot of people on here and elsewhere bemoaning these sheets but they still cost points to add so this one (storm wing) will set you back ~500pts but you still need a FoC legal list as well, so the question becomes what do you drop to take these?

Are they good and fun I'd say yes, plus it give an excuse to get something different and play in a different way.

You take a single inquisitor from the Inquisitorial detachment as your primary and then take 3 squads of these flyers! Duh.

UltraPrime wrote:

Bull0 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Hm I hope the Tempestus firebase gets rules since I actually bought that boxset..It didn't even come with the rules for the fortifications wtf.. you get those when you buy them individually.

REALLY? I've ordered one of those, if that happens I'm straight on the phone to GW.

I bought this, and can confirm no rules. However, I emailed GW and had PDFs of the rules within half an hour, so good on them.

Ah, that's OK, then.

Looks like GW has plenty of time to release all this crap, but doesn't have the time to release a simple faq for chaos daemons so I can actually use my 3 burning chariots of tzeentch. Thanks GeeDub.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Looks like GW has plenty of time to release all this crap, but doesn't have the time to release a simple faq for chaos daemons so I can actually use my 3 burning chariots of tzeentch. Thanks GeeDub.

You've already bought them! There's no incentive.

UltraPrime wrote:

Bull0 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Hm I hope the Tempestus firebase gets rules since I actually bought that boxset..It didn't even come with the rules for the fortifications wtf.. you get those when you buy them individually.

REALLY? I've ordered one of those, if that happens I'm straight on the phone to GW.

I bought this, and can confirm no rules. However, I emailed GW and had PDFs of the rules within half an hour, so good on them.

As I've understood it it's because the printed rules that where included in the books are out of date and the new, edited version is in the new Fortifications expansion book.

But I could be mistaken - this is all from BoLS after all

 Boogie wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So... it's a Chibi-Hawk and two Space Guppy's as a formation, coming in as one Reserve Roll. Is that it?

With 5 BS and pinning on all weapons - yeah.

How many extra points on top of the individual model costs does it take to get those extra abilities?

 warboss wrote:

 Boogie wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So... it's a Chibi-Hawk and two Space Guppy's as a formation, coming in as one Reserve Roll. Is that it?

With 5 BS and pinning on all weapons - yeah.

How many extra points on top of the individual model costs does it take to get those extra abilities?

Points? They cost 0 points. It's all about $$. You get bonus abilities if you spend money not points, you're thinking about 40k 2012. This is 2013!

You pay the opportunity cost of not spending the points invested in these units on something else. When you are getting bonuses for taking sub-par but fluffy things, I'm OK with this. When you are taking top shelf units and getting the cherry on top, it can be problematic.

Allies have the "troop tax" you have to spend to get the cool thing from that codex. With things like the storm wing, you need to dedicate 500+ points to air power, which might be more then you need to, leaving gaps elsewhere. Not much of a problem if you were going to take them anyway, but adding strafing run to the raven is not all that and a bag of chips.

Yay, Space Wolves get flyers now.

Actually, after pondering some more... I think GW might actually have finally balanced the game perfectly (in theory) while keeping army playstyles distinct (but gaking all over the fluff in the process). GW has basically thrown in the towel on saying that x army s balanced vs y, and instead are basically giving every army access to all the same options in order to level the playing field and make competitive games balanced, assuming they ever get around to fully updating all the codecies this edition. Unfortunately, this might just mean that everyone ends up fielding one of a small handful of competitive builds, but it'll be balanced in the sense that everyone will have access to them.

Except for Tyranids, no allies means they're screwed.

 magodedisco wrote:
Hey guys, this photo was making the rounds yesterday on tg. It obviously lines up with today's release and matches many of the formation releases they've done.

Wow... because what we really need is a Tigurius supplement to add him to any army... and I even love the guy as a UM player, I still think he is a tad OP.