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According to a Tourney discussion, that combo is legal for 40k.

The Titan? I get it. The Escalation book. Okay.

Where (not what) are the rules that combine *3* armies/codexes?

Allies ... and... and ?

Eldar main army with the Revenant.
DE allies.
Tau Riptide/Broadside formation.

In fact you could also add some inquisition allies if you wanted some cheap servo skulls to block off scout moves and add/or a couple cheap scoring units.

 Peregrine wrote:
Eldar main army with the Revenant.
DE allies.
Tau Riptide/Broadside formation.

In fact you could also add some inquisition allies if you wanted some cheap servo skulls to block off scout moves and add/or a couple cheap scoring units.

The Revenant + Tau Formation alone costs at least 1470 points. You'd still have to fit in 1 Primary HQ, 2 Primary Troops, 1 Allied HQ, and 1 Allied Troop. For Eldar that means 172 minimum points and for dark eldar allies 80 points minimum. That's 1722 points for the bare minimum and hardly optimal. You aren't going to see this combination done well until you hit over 2000 points.

 Peregrine wrote:
Tau Riptide/Broadside formation.

Here's my ignorant question: Where are the 'formation' rules?

What format are they (that is *not*, "gimme the specific rules" but, are they in a suppliment, digital release, White Dwarf article, book, etc. ?)

Thanks.

 Brothererekose wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Tau Riptide/Broadside formation.

Here's my ignorant question: Where are the 'formation' rules?

What format are they (that is *not*, "gimme the specific rules" but, are they in a suppliment, digital release, White Dwarf article, book, etc. ?)

Thanks.

It's a part of the december digital releases.

They are GW's experiment into DLC for 40k.

You pay $3-5 for the new unit or formation you want from the Black Library instead of having to buy a full supplement or IA.

 Brothererekose wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Tau Riptide/Broadside formation.

Here's my ignorant question: Where are the 'formation' rules?

What format are they (that is *not*, "gimme the specific rules" but, are they in a suppliment, digital release, White Dwarf article, book, etc. ?)

Thanks.

Yeah its a silly new digital release. Basically they realise that Broadsides and Riptides are clearly the worst options in the massively under powered Tau codex. So any army can take 6 Broadsides and a Riptide as an allied formation without taking any FOC slots. But that's just not good enough so they all gain Tank Hunters and PE (Space Marines). A great and well thought out addition to the world of 40k.

 FlingitNow wrote:

 Brothererekose wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Tau Riptide/Broadside formation.

Here's my ignorant question: Where are the 'formation' rules?

What format are they (that is *not*, "gimme the specific rules" but, are they in a suppliment, digital release, White Dwarf article, book, etc. ?)

Thanks.

Yeah its a silly new digital release. Basically they realise that Broadsides and Riptides are clearly the worst options in the massively under powered Tau codex. So any army can take 6 Broadsides and a Riptide as an allied formation without taking any FOC slots. But that's just not good enough so they all gain Tank Hunters and PE (Space Marines). A great and well thought out addition to the world of 40k.

As a tau player I agree completely ^^
now i can take more hammerheads

... or was that sarcasm?

 FlingitNow wrote:
Yeah its a silly new digital release. Basically they realise that Broadsides and Riptides are clearly the worst options in the massively under powered Tau codex. So any army can take 6 Broadsides and a Riptide as an allied formation without taking any FOC slots. But that's just not good enough so they all gain Tank Hunters and PE (Space Marines). A great and well thought out addition to the world of 40k.

Oh, for goodness' sake, FiN, you are pulling my leg.

6 Tank Hunter XV88s, a RipT, and no HQ tax? No FOC check?

Oh, wait, I believe you. Look at the 9 Broadside/RipT box, (Tau Empire Firebase Support Cadre) they are selling. It's about the mighty ... dollar, quid, pound ....

Thanks, guys.

Yeah as my standard army includes 6 Broadsides and a Riptide I'll just swap that over to FBSC, thus I free up an Elite slot and all 3 HS slots (I was running 3 units of 2 I'll have to change to 2 units of 3) and gain Tank Hunter and PE on my standard Tau army. Costing no extra points! There is basically no reason to not take the FBSC in any Tau army unless you're running the Farsun bomb. Heck basically any army would be made better by the FBSC.

So yeah it is now possible to run 15 Broadsides in a single FOC.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/566843.page

Got to love the pursuit of the all mighty pound....

I still can't fathom why they thought this would be a good idea, the formation idea in general but this one in particular. Some of the most powerful units in the game, gift wrapped and handed over to any army with a bow. As a Tau player we gain even more from it then everyone else, I love broadsides and often have at least one rip-tide as any decent Tau list would. Freeing up the force organization slots in order to take a few more heavy hitting heavy units was a big mistake, and I plan to get this 'datasheet' as soon as I stop being lazy and broke.

 FlingitNow wrote:
...There is basically no reason to not take the FBSC in any Tau army unless you're running the Farsun bomb. Heck basically any army would be made better by the FBSC...

Unless you're playing an army with less than 9 broadsides, presumably...? Or, come to think of it, no Riptide. :O

EDIT : 6 Broadsides, apologies

Well its only 6 Broadsides and from a game play perspective Broadsides and Riptides should form the basis of any effective list, to take the best stuff in the best codex make it even better and free up loads of FOC slots it really is a no brainer.

But I do not like the idea of fielding 6 broadsides. I would prefer a Hammerhead. There are plenty of reasons not to take this formation.

If you are playing a list themed around killing Space Marines, then it would make sense for you to take it if you already had all those units. But that seems a little niche, no?

Its not the PE(Marines) that's the big bonus its the tank hunters on the Broadsides. They basically autokill any vehicle with AV13 or below. From s competitive point of view this formation really is a no Rainer. Getting to field 6-9 Broadsides and 2-3 Skyrays is a big advantage (the only competitive HS options). Likewise being able to take 2 Riptides and 2 suicide fusion units is very useful. This really is too good to be true.


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Its not the PE(Marines) that's the big bonus its the tank hunters on the Broadsides. They basically autokill any vehicle with AV13 or below. From s competitive point of view this formation really is a no Rainer. Getting to field 6-9 Broadsides and 2-3 Skyrays is a big advantage (the only competitive HS options). Likewise being able to take 2 Riptides and 2 suicide fusion units is very useful. This really is too good to be true.