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If you hate someone, the best you can do is nicely convince them to give you all their money. Then when they're screwed, you've won and they've lost. It's a thought some store owners don't get. Why do you turn someone away that you don't like?

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I think some of the issues from some store owners comes from the customers themselves. Note that Im not blaming people in this thread or anything, just customers in general.

For example, lets take customers bringing in models they didn't buy at the store. That in itself isn't a big deal. Most store owners wouldn't even notice. But I've seen players who come in to use the tables, set up their army, and then loudly brag that they bought their whole army online for far cheaper than they could have gotten it in the store, often times right in front of new customers or the owner. In this instance I'd imagine a store owner would quickly build a negative view of customers

Not to derail the thread, but at my local GW, one customer actually brought in the unopened box from Ebay and opened it right in the store (OOP Plague Marines), showed the miniatures to the manager and and all about how he got them via Ebay, then had the balls to ask the Manager if he could throw the box away in the trash. People seriously disgust me. It's a shame too, because the manager is worried about getting axed (mainly due to a very terrible location) and then he has to deal with that.

 Coldhatred wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I think some of the issues from some store owners comes from the customers themselves. Note that Im not blaming people in this thread or anything, just customers in general.

For example, lets take customers bringing in models they didn't buy at the store. That in itself isn't a big deal. Most store owners wouldn't even notice. But I've seen players who come in to use the tables, set up their army, and then loudly brag that they bought their whole army online for far cheaper than they could have gotten it in the store, often times right in front of new customers or the owner. In this instance I'd imagine a store owner would quickly build a negative view of customers

Not to derail the thread, but at my local GW, one customer actually brought in the unopened box from Ebay and opened it right in the store (OOP Plague Marines), showed the miniatures to the manager and and all about how he got them via Ebay, then had the balls to ask the Manager if he could throw the box away in the trash. People seriously disgust me. It's a shame too, because the manager is worried about getting axed (mainly due to a very terrible location) and then he has to deal with that.

Where they OOP when he bought them?
If so an (imo good) argument could be made that if they no longer produce that model there is nothing wrong with going to ebay for it.

 Glaiceana wrote:
Sorry to hear that's happened to you apple fox, hope all is ok now. Think I have been lucky with my experiences at stores. I'm a girl and have been to many GW stores, and I've never experienced any kind of sexist treatment from staff or players etc so far.

But yeah this thread has been great to read through, a lot of interesting stories. But yeah no bad experiences from my side. I remember one of the first GW shops I went to in Ireland, was in Dublin, around 2005,one of the staff was introducing how to play a game to a bunch of kids, he was reenacting the different characters getting hit on the battlefield and everything, was great fun and was really getting everyone into it

I think that guy is still there!

you just save your bitching till you reach a pc with an active internet connection.

 jonolikespie wrote:


Where they OOP when he bought them?
If so an (imo good) argument could be made that if they no longer produce that model there is nothing wrong with going to ebay for it.

Yes, but he pretty much said he bought them because of the price, not the for the fact that they are OOP.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I think some of the issues from some store owners comes from the customers themselves. Note that Im not blaming people in this thread or anything, just customers in general.

For example, lets take customers bringing in models they didn't buy at the store. That in itself isn't a big deal. Most store owners wouldn't even notice. But I've seen players who come in to use the tables, set up their army, and then loudly brag that they bought their whole army online for far cheaper than they could have gotten it in the store, often times right in front of new customers or the owner. In this instance I'd imagine a store owner would quickly build a negative view of customers

Yeah that definitely isn't on, that's practically purposely ruining the business of the shop. There's whole sites dedicated to stories of customers being stupid, it happens, and the store owners will inevitably come across a bad customer.

 Coldhatred wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:


Where they OOP when he bought them?
If so an (imo good) argument could be made that if they no longer produce that model there is nothing wrong with going to ebay for it.

Yes, but he pretty much said he bought them because of the price, not the for the fact that they are OOP.

Fair enough.

Still.. if I got my hands on some Diaz Daemonettes I'd probably enjoy parading them around my local GW just a bit too much

Da krimson barun wrote:

 Glaiceana wrote:
Sorry to hear that's happened to you apple fox, hope all is ok now. Think I have been lucky with my experiences at stores. I'm a girl and have been to many GW stores, and I've never experienced any kind of sexist treatment from staff or players etc so far.

But yeah this thread has been great to read through, a lot of interesting stories. But yeah no bad experiences from my side. I remember one of the first GW shops I went to in Ireland, was in Dublin, around 2005,one of the staff was introducing how to play a game to a bunch of kids, he was reenacting the different characters getting hit on the battlefield and everything, was great fun and was really getting everyone into it

I think that guy is still there!

Haha, that would be so cool if he is!

I have a detente of sorts with my 2 FLGS's

I buy a LOT of stuff from them, mainly paint, magazines, and board games, but also miniatures and terrain.

I have a LOT more stuff, though, than I bought in the FLGS, and they know I do a fair amount of on-line trading.

They are ok with that, as long as I do not flaunt it.

They have asked that I do not wear my Bartertown shirt though.. lol..

 porkuslime wrote:

...They have asked that I do not wear my Bartertown shirt though.. lol..

...wear my Bartertown shirt though...

...my Bartertown shirt...

...Bartertown shirt...

...

Are these in wide circulation? Because I'd love to support the site.

 porkuslime wrote:
I have a detente of sorts with my 2 FLGS's

I buy a LOT of stuff from them, mainly paint, magazines, and board games, but also miniatures and terrain.

I have a LOT more stuff, though, than I bought in the FLGS, and they know I do a fair amount of on-line trading.

They are ok with that, as long as I do not flaunt it.

They have asked that I do not wear my Bartertown shirt though.. lol..

I remember you telling me that the first time we hung out in Columbus! I found it wildly amusing.

new a guy at a gaming center i used to go to who was a khorne player. he actoully anointed his bloodthirster with his own blood (he used an exacto knife !) at the begining of everygame. he stopped coming after some other gamers complained about it. pretty wierd, right? still, i still thank god that this guy was a nurgle player :/

Well, kudos to him for enthusiasm.

Honestly, I'd be a little weirded out to if some random dude wips out his exacto knife and starts cutin and rubbin blood all over the place. Not to mention its nit sanitary, yessh

 OnlyWar wrote:
new a guy at a gaming center i used to go to who was a khorne player. he actoully anointed his bloodthirster with his own blood (he used an exacto knife !) at the begining of everygame. he stopped coming after some other gamers complained about it. pretty wierd, right? still, i still thank god that this guy was a nurgle player :/

Yes, very "enthusiastic" is a good description.
Wonder what motivated him enough that hurting himself was worth it...
Definitely reinforces my personal rule that everyone should handle their own models.
Certainly gets points for realism but detracts when any pets around take a strong interest in the models.

Some should direct him to the new Blood for the Blood God paint.

 Talizvar wrote:

 OnlyWar wrote:
new a guy at a gaming center i used to go to who was a khorne player. he actoully anointed his bloodthirster with his own blood (he used an exacto knife !) at the begining of everygame. he stopped coming after some other gamers complained about it. pretty wierd, right? still, i still thank god that this guy was a nurgle player :/

Yes, very "enthusiastic" is a good description.
Wonder what motivated him enough that hurting himself was worth it...
Definitely reinforces my personal rule that everyone should handle their own models.
Certainly gets points for realism but detracts when any pets around take a strong interest in the models.

You wanna touch my model, go ahead: I DARE you.


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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Some should direct him to the new Blood for the Blood God paint.

Oh my non-existent deity, THAT'S where they get it.

Buddy and I drove up to Orlando from Miami for an event years ago. This was at the beginning of 4th. There were two awards. Best overall and best army. The award for best overall was to be the new SM army set which was like a $240 set. Best Army was to get the LE WH Inquisitor model.

I win best overall with max points in battle and near perfect in painting.

When they announce the Awards, I win Best Army and the local guy with the Pro Painted by a GD winner Army who lost all 3 games wins Best Overall.

My local gaming store was very nice. Great staff, great atmosphere, great selection. They even bought out the store next door to have 8 tables for various gaming. They even sponsor gaming nights and teach new players.


The only downsides? They were across the street from a college campus/dorm and two doors down from a popular bar.

On occasion when games lasted late into the night, and local partiers got started early, we crossed paths. Semi-drunk bullies still like bullying, even in adulthood. Especially funny when most of the guys in the club are well over 6ft tall and we had an assortment of football players, marines, and martial arts instructors.

One night a guy thought it hilarious to run up behind me and kick my case out of my hands. As the case went sliding down the pavement I thought more of an assault was coming so I threw a blind punch at the guy behind me. I caught him in the temple and knocked him out. I IMMEDIATELY ran for my car and got out of the area. The next week I learned he was okay, and that all of the witnesses there (game store and bar) "saw nothing". Only fight I have been in since I was 6.

Back in the day when I used to play magic the flgs owner used to get the big order of booster boxes open them up and take out the 5th and 6th packet down in the middle row and put others back in. The rares tended to be in one of those packets which would be sold as singles.

The bad bit tho was that he used to sell the boxes on as unopened to some of the regulars who usually spent £200+ a week in the shop.

Isn't that fraud or something?

I have a pretty shocking one. Back when I still played Orks and went to an official GW store I found another Ork player. He was an okay player but I ended up beating him. Then the manager comes over with a disturbed look on his face and tells my opponent to go clean up in the restroom next door. I go to over to his side of the table to find a puddle of urine. It was 2 years ago and I still feel bad for that guy.

Bronzefists42 wrote:
I have a pretty shocking one. Back when I still played Orks and went to an official GW store I found another Ork player. He was an okay player but I ended up beating him. Then the manager comes over with a disturbed look on his face and tells my opponent to go clean up in the restroom next door. I go to over to his side of the table to find a puddle of urine. It was 2 years ago and I still feel bad for that guy.

That didn't go the way I thought it was going...

Bronzefists42 wrote:
I have a pretty shocking one. Back when I still played Orks and went to an official GW store I found another Ork player. He was an okay player but I ended up beating him. Then the manager comes over with a disturbed look on his face and tells my opponent to go clean up in the restroom next door. I go to over to his side of the table to find a puddle of urine. It was 2 years ago and I still feel bad for that guy.

Was there are reason for it? I will also admit i didnt expect that.

 Swastakowey wrote:

Bronzefists42 wrote:
I have a pretty shocking one. Back when I still played Orks and went to an official GW store I found another Ork player. He was an okay player but I ended up beating him. Then the manager comes over with a disturbed look on his face and tells my opponent to go clean up in the restroom next door. I go to over to his side of the table to find a puddle of urine. It was 2 years ago and I still feel bad for that guy.

Was there are reason for it? I will also admit i didnt expect that.

I was so taken back by it I never asked about it. Keep in mind this is when I was around 11 or 12 and he was around that age as well (Maybe a year or two younger

Mine was someone had a glue bottle that had glued shut. My friend pulls out his Boy Scout folding knife and offers it. The guy with the glue bottle uses it and we continue to play for the next three hours without incident.
We show up a few days later to find he is banned from the store for threatening some guy with a knife. He would not tell us who put in the complaint. He also used the “Incident” to ban the regular D&D who had been playing there for almost 2 decades. Me and my friend had not played with them for almost 2 years at this point, but we were not part of the group.
When the GM confronted him he gave him some BS story. Talking with an employ later The Store owner was waiting for some excuse to get rid of the D&D group because they did not spend enough money and he wanted the table for the MechWarrior tournaments he was running.
Later he sold the store to some guys and left town. The new owners then found he had around 10k in bills due.

 Anpu42 wrote:
Mine was someone had a glue bottle that had glued shut. My friend pulls out his Boy Scout folding knife and offers it. The guy with the glue bottle uses it and we continue to play for the next three hours without incident.
We show up a few days later to find he is banned from the store for threatening some guy with a knife. He would not tell us who put in the complaint. He also used the “Incident” to ban the regular D&D who had been playing there for almost 2 decades. Me and my friend had not played with them for almost 2 years at this point, but we were not part of the group.
When the GM confronted him he gave him some BS story. Talking with an employ later The Store owner was waiting for some excuse to get rid of the D&D group because they did not spend enough money and he wanted the table for the MechWarrior tournaments he was running.
Later he sold the store to some guys and left town. The new owners then found he had around 10k in bills due.

Since you are in the US I find that odd. If he had 10k in bills due one of two things happened: 1. The buyers didn't do their homework, in which case it is their own fault, or 2. the previous owner didn't disclose all of his liabilities, in which case it is fraud. In the case of the latter, the new owners can either sue him for the undisclosed liabilities or force a reversal on the sale, plus any incurred costs.

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:
Mine was someone had a glue bottle that had glued shut. My friend pulls out his Boy Scout folding knife and offers it. The guy with the glue bottle uses it and we continue to play for the next three hours without incident.
We show up a few days later to find he is banned from the store for threatening some guy with a knife. He would not tell us who put in the complaint. He also used the “Incident” to ban the regular D&D who had been playing there for almost 2 decades. Me and my friend had not played with them for almost 2 years at this point, but we were not part of the group.
When the GM confronted him he gave him some BS story. Talking with an employ later The Store owner was waiting for some excuse to get rid of the D&D group because they did not spend enough money and he wanted the table for the MechWarrior tournaments he was running.
Later he sold the store to some guys and left town. The new owners then found he had around 10k in bills due.

Since you are in the US I find that odd. If he had 10k in bills due one of two things happened: 1. The buyers didn't do their homework, in which case it is their own fault, or 2. the previous owner didn't disclose all of his liabilities, in which case it is fraud. In the case of the latter, the new owners can either sue him for the undisclosed liabilities or force a reversal on the sale, plus any incurred costs.

Maybe but it happens in NZ too, especially if they declare themselves bankrupt.

 Swastakowey wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:
Mine was someone had a glue bottle that had glued shut. My friend pulls out his Boy Scout folding knife and offers it. The guy with the glue bottle uses it and we continue to play for the next three hours without incident.
We show up a few days later to find he is banned from the store for threatening some guy with a knife. He would not tell us who put in the complaint. He also used the “Incident” to ban the regular D&D who had been playing there for almost 2 decades. Me and my friend had not played with them for almost 2 years at this point, but we were not part of the group.
When the GM confronted him he gave him some BS story. Talking with an employ later The Store owner was waiting for some excuse to get rid of the D&D group because they did not spend enough money and he wanted the table for the MechWarrior tournaments he was running.
Later he sold the store to some guys and left town. The new owners then found he had around 10k in bills due.

Since you are in the US I find that odd. If he had 10k in bills due one of two things happened: 1. The buyers didn't do their homework, in which case it is their own fault, or 2. the previous owner didn't disclose all of his liabilities, in which case it is fraud. In the case of the latter, the new owners can either sue him for the undisclosed liabilities or force a reversal on the sale, plus any incurred costs.

Maybe but it happens in NZ too, especially if they declare themselves bankrupt.

I realy did not get much more than that infromation. The store had other issues and is gone now.