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We all know that making rules for the Emperor would be complex enough, if not for the added idiocy (??) of the "All Tens" cliche. I propose a serious discussion on his rules.
- Given that he is the father of the Primarchs, he would have their "Primarch" rule, though obviously it would be named differently (Sire of the Primarchs??).
- Assuming "The Burning Blade" is truly his weapon, I think he would have it, but without the "Incandescent" rule.
- His talon weapon could be an uber Lightning Claw, perhaps with AP2 and some rule that inflicts multi-wounds instead of just one per hit.
- I'd think he'd have 2+ and 3++ saves.
- He would be Psyker Mastery Level 5, or above. Although Eldrad is older than he is (is he??) and even he isn't that high. Nor is Ahriman when he is aligned with Chaos. So L5 is probably the sweet spot for him.
- I don't see him being affected by Perils of the Warp, or any power that does not inflict wounds, or does not a Strength value. Perhaps he would be outright immune to powers that come from Chaos units?
- I think he'd be able to re-roll all to-hit, to-wound, and armour penetration rules.
- He could take his Psyker tests on a 3D6, or 4D6, and pick the lowest result(s). He could also re-roll failed tests, though it is very unlikely such a thing would happen.
- I think he'd have access to all disciplines in the BRB, and even the Grey Knights powers.
- Any Imperial units would get a Leadership bonus of some sort from being near/seeing him. Stubborn, LD10, or possibly Fearless are likely options.
- Chaos Daemons could possibly be affected by Fear (from Sire of the Primarchs) when facing the Emperor. He IS the Anathema after all.
- At most he'd probably be Very Bulky, so he could fit in transports. Or, he might have a select few he could embark upon.
- Point cost wise, he'd be well above Horus (500 pts) and no doubt could be in the range of the Daemon Lords (the highest being 999 pts). He may even cost the same or more as a Tau Manta (1500 pts??).
Whatever the case, he'd be a force to be reckoned with on the table-top. Characters like Abaddon and the Swarmlord might just lose in a fight against him. Shadow of the Warp may barely slow him down, if at all.
So yeah, discuss what could be towards creating rules for the Emperor. Just be serious about it, and try to avoid the All Ten cliche. A 10 is fine for some of the stats, but not all of them; not even the Daemon Lords are that good.
BrotherHaraldus wrote: I'd imagine he'd have to have at least T7. I mean, if he had any less, then he'd be killable with Gretchin. That would be somewhat immersion breaking.
I would agree with T7 as well.
Since I would see him having access to multiple disciplines, his other stats could be boosted anytime he wanted.
All 10's is probably easier to manage than keeping track of a dozen or more special rules that make him super strong and pretty much invincible against everything. I agree, he should be very strong, but I've seen where threads like this usually end up.
Mastery level:5 Can pick from all disciplines besides Chaos.
The God Emperor: 24" LD 10, Fearless, Stubborn, to Imperial troops, No bonus to allies other than Space Marines, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Grey Knights, or Imperial Guard. Fear, - 2 LD (To min of 2) and fear to Chaos, and Chaos Space Marines
All Powerful: May choose one One point pyker power from any non chaos discipline without needing to roll. does not take perils of the warp tests.
1000 A Day...: Any offensive Psychic powers used on another pysker have Instant death.
SMITE!: all attacks on any unit from Codex: Chaos Space Marines and Codex: Chaos Demons have Instant Death, and ignore invulnerable saves.
Eternal Warrior.
1800 points, HQ
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"I don't have a good feeling about this... Your mini looks like it has my mini's head on a stick..."
"From the immaterium to the Imperium, this is Radio Free Nostramo! Coming to you live from the Eye of Terror, this is your host, Captain Contagion, bringing you the latest Heretical hits!"
Mastery level:5
Can pick from all disciplines besides Chaos.
The God Emperor: 24" LD 10, Fearless, Stubborn, to Imperial troops, No bonus to allies other than Space Marines, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Grey Knights, or Imperial Guard.
Fear, - 2 LD (To min of 2) and fear to Chaos, and Chaos Space Marines
All Powerful: May choose one One point pyker power from any non chaos discipline without needing to roll. does not take perils of the warp tests.
1000 A Day...: Any offensive Psychic powers used on another pysker have Instant death.
SMITE!: all attacks on any unit from Codex: Chaos Space Marines and Codex: Chaos Demons have Instant Death, and ignore invulnerable saves.
Eternal Warrior.
1800 points, HQ
That's not worth 1800 point bud, to say the least. Maybe only 950?
Make S, T, W, I, A all 7s so he's in the next league up from the primarchs.
Give him those Transcendent Ctan powers, like the assault 6d6, and a S:10 AP:1 10"blast that takes up two less charges than his mastery level.
Then some serious army buffs like having 2 warlord traits, being able to steal initiative on a 4+, giving a limited number of units perfect deepstriking, and then the abilitiy to grant a few vanilla marine squads legion special rules.
BOOM 1500 points.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
The Most Powerful Psyker Ever: No psychic tests are needed. Roll a d6, if the result is a number, The Emperor Blasts all enemy models on the board out of play, and then wins the game.
This has been tamed down from the fluff.
Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
@ ThePrimodial
That wasn't a full list of what he could do... probably should have mentioned that...
And I was not sure what primarch stats are so by all means buff it anyway you see fit.
"I don't have a good feeling about this... Your mini looks like it has my mini's head on a stick..."
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Nearly strangled to death by an ork. An ork that was trivially easy for a Primarch to defeat.
If he could destroy planets with mind-bullets, how come he never did?
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life.
thepowerfulwill wrote: @ ThePrimodial
That wasn't a full list of what he could do... probably should have mentioned that...
And I was not sure what primarch stats are so by all means buff it anyway you see fit.
Primarch stats are basically 6's in everything. It's that simple.
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DarknessEternal wrote: Nearly strangled to death by an ork. An ork that was trivially easy for a Primarch to defeat.
If he could destroy planets with mind-bullets, how come he never did?
Well there was that condensed super nova laser, and beating the snot out of the void dragon who withstood planet busting hits. So yeah he did.
That ork was the size of a soul grinder and empowered by a waagh the size of the eastern fringe of the galaxy.
On top of that what's to say he wasn't doing it to test Horus?
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
Void Dragon was split 65 million years before the Emperor was born. You must mean that tomb stalkerish thing.
"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life.
Void Dragon was split 65 million years before the Emperor was born. You must mean that tomb stalkerish thing.
Perhaps it was a shard, or collection of shards, of the Void Dragon, rather than the entire entity?
All 7s would be plausible. Burning Blade without the negative Incandescent rule would also be acceptable - why would the Emperor be burned by his own weapon? I'd imagine it'd work much like Sephiroth's Masamune (FF7) - only the owner can use it without incident.
Void Dragon was split 65 million years before the Emperor was born. You must mean that tomb stalkerish thing.
In the updated description of the battle between Horus and the Emperor the Emperor kills Horus with a condensed supernova laser. It's one of the most well known feats in 40k.
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
The Most Powerful Psyker Ever: No psychic tests are needed. Roll a d6, if the result is a number, The Emperor Blasts all enemy models on the board out of play, and then wins the game.
This has been tamed down from the fluff.
Lol this looks more like a rule for that card game "We didn't play test this at all"
For people who are nubile that is a real thing.
Any ways I like the str and toughness 7 but I would say he has more then 5 wounds and his ws is 9. I agree with the burning blade ignoring incandescent. I think he would have a 5+ at least feel no pain and then grant all that stuff for enhancing friendly space marines and guard ld fearless and what not. I would say he can fail psychic rolls but he would get re rolls but he only suffers perils on double 6's but he gets a 4+ feel no pain to resist the warp.
The Most Powerful Psyker Ever: No psychic tests are needed. Roll a d6, if the result is a number, The Emperor Blasts all enemy models on the board out of play, and then wins the game.
This has been tamed down from the fluff.
Lol this looks more like a rule for that card game "We didn't play test this at all"
For people who are nubile that is a real thing.
Any ways I like the str and toughness 7 but I would say he has more then 5 wounds and his ws is 9. I agree with the burning blade ignoring incandescent. I think he would have a 5+ at least feel no pain and then grant all that stuff for enhancing friendly space marines and guard ld fearless and what not. I would say he can fail psychic rolls but he would get re rolls but he only suffers perils on double 6's but he gets a 4+ feel no pain to resist the warp.
Lorgar has 5 wounds, and is the weakest primarch. No way Emps has 5 wounds.
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
In the updated description of the battle between Horus and the Emperor the Emperor kills Horus with a condensed supernova laser. It's one of the most well known feats in 40k.
They also describe plasma gun fire routinely as "a second star", yet we don't see a single plasma gun being sufficient to render Exterminatus. It's poetic license.
Anything as powerful as a supernova in a ship orbiting Terra would have vaporized the planet. All he did was kill Horus with it. And the primary component of that attack wasn't even physical, it was the erasure of Horus' soul.
Giving him some "soul-erasing laser" would be much more appropriate, since that's something he actually did (once, but it happened). He never blew up anything with his mind-bullets, let alone anything on the titanic scale you seem to attributing to him.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life.
I agree with DarknessEternal. His power should definitely come from the Warp, not physique. In the end, he was who he was not because he could beat the crap out of everything, but because he was spiritually transcended.
Mastery level:5
Can pick from all disciplines besides Chaos.
The God Emperor: 24" LD 10, Fearless, Stubborn, to Imperial troops, No bonus to allies other than Space Marines, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Grey Knights, or Imperial Guard.
Fear, - 2 LD (To min of 2) and fear to Chaos, and Chaos Space Marines
All Powerful: May choose one One point pyker power from any non chaos discipline without needing to roll. does not take perils of the warp tests.
1000 A Day...: Any offensive Psychic powers used on another pysker have Instant death.
SMITE!: all attacks on any unit from Codex: Chaos Space Marines and Codex: Chaos Demons have Instant Death, and ignore invulnerable saves.
Eternal Warrior.
1800 points, HQ
WS 8 seems kinda weak, since my deamon prince Be'lakor has WS 9. S 9 seems a little much, he is after all, still just a man in terminator armor. I would use S 6 only because he is the emprah and then use psychic buffs to increase it. T 8....I don't think so. T 7 is more reasonable on that one. W 5 is not enough, there are characters now that have 5 wounds, how about 7 wounds. I would leave the attacks at 5, but add the special rule to his uber claw that the BA death company dreads have, if you inflict an unsaved wound you immediately get another attack...or something. lol I like the 2+ 3++, but I would make his inv save re-rollable. Your "SMITE!" special rule is a little....over the top, just using his stat line alone should prove to be no problem in combat. I would say an even 1000 points sounds fair.
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I think the last time I discussed this on Dakka, someone raised the point that Primarchs and their classic "rivals" tend to have the same statline with one or two stats flipped (one with WS9 and BS8, the other with WS8 and BS9, for example, or W7 T6 flipped to W6 T7). To that end, I'd pattern The Emperor after Horus - with, of course, an appropriate smattering of psychic ability. Nothing like a Strength D Hellstorm template, but something. Magnus is said to be as powerful (psychically) as The Emperor, but unfortunately there are no rules for Magnus, yet.
In the updated description of the battle between Horus and the Emperor the Emperor kills Horus with a condensed supernova laser. It's one of the most well known feats in 40k.
They also describe plasma gun fire routinely as "a second star", yet we don't see a single plasma gun being sufficient to render Exterminatus. It's poetic license.
Anything as powerful as a supernova in a ship orbiting Terra would have vaporized the planet. All he did was kill Horus with it. And the primary component of that attack wasn't even physical, it was the erasure of Horus' soul.
Giving him some "soul-erasing laser" would be much more appropriate, since that's something he actually did (once, but it happened). He never blew up anything with his mind-bullets, let alone anything on the titanic scale you seem to attributing to him.
The word condensed means more powerful over a smaller area, so not necessarily. The heat could of been easily suppressed by a psyker.
A duck is a noun. It is not an adjective and it didn't say "like a supernova" it literally says "more powerful than a supernova".
Given the Emperor in his current state could open a solar system sized hole in reality I don't see the problem with him doing this.
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McNinja wrote: This This a bit easier than everyone thinks.
Take horus' statline from the horus heresy book. Add +1 to everything. Done. Now special Rules.
My thoughts exactly.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
I think that developing appropriately scaled psychic powers for the Emperor is much more important than figuring out his stat profile. I don't think he would be more powerful physically than the Primarchs, his most potent abilities would revolve around psychic powers. The trick is making him enormously influential on the battlefield without making him an "I Win" button.
The Emperor (Points: 1000-1200ish?)
WS:9 BS:7 S:6 T:6 W:6 I:8 A:6 Ld:10 Sv:2+/3++
Wargear: The Burning Blade (S+3 AP2 Soul Blaze), Emperor's Talon (S+1 AP3 Shred, Armorbane), Terminator Armor
Special Rules:
Eternal Warrior, Fearless, Preferred Enemy (Daemons), Psyker (Mastery Level 5), Mantle of Protection, The God-Emperor of Mankind, Psychic Presence, Prodigal Psyker
Mantle of Protection: The Emperor has a 3+ Invulnerable save, and always Denies the Witch on a roll of 3+. In addition, whenever he suffers an unsaved wound from any source, he ignores the wound on a 5+ (this roll is made at the same time as Feel no Pain saves). If the source is a Destroyer weapon, or has a Mark of Chaos or the Daemon special rule, he instead ignores the wound on a 4+.
The Emperor's Mantle extends to all friendly units within 12" of the Emperor. These units have a 5+ Invulnerable save, and receive +1 to their Deny the Witch rolls.
The God-Emperor of Mankind: While the Emperor is on the table, all friendly units are filled with a blessed rage, and have the Fearless and Furious Charge special rules.
Psychic Presence: The Emperor is a beacon of light in the Warp, and his psychic presence fills the battlefield. While the Emperor is on the table, friendly psykers are immune to Perils of the Warp, and enemy units receive a -1 penalty to Deny the Witch rolls (enemies who already need a 6+ do not get to roll).
Prodigal Psyker: The Emperor is the most powerful human psyker in existence, and his psychic might is beyond compare. He automatically passes psychic tests, and counts as rolling less than 5 for the purposes of focused witchfire powers. He can also use any number of psychic shooting attacks in a turn, and can target different units with psychic shooting attacks. The Emperor knows the following powers:
Emperor's Smite - witchfire (1 Warp Charge) - This power strikes an enemy unit at S8 AP2. The power is either a 36" range Large Blast, or a Torrent template weapon. The Emperor can use this power multiple times in a turn, provided he has Warp Charges remaining. Once per turn, the Emperor can expend an additional Warp Charge to change this power's profile to a nova targeting all enemy models within 12".
Divine Pronouncement - focused witchfire (1 Warp Charge) - range 24" S10 AP1 Assault 1 Blind, Strikedown. This power automatically hits. A model with the Daemon special rule hit by this power instead suffers one Strength D hit with the Blind and Strikedown rules.
Crushing Will - malediction (1 Warp Charge) - This power targets one enemy unit within 24". The target unit is WS1, BS1 and cannot move in the Movement phase.
Perfect Prescience - blessing (1 Warp Charge) - This power targets one friendly unit anywhere on the battlefield (which can be the Emperor himself). The target unit re-rolls all rolls to hit in shooting and close combat, and all saving throws until the start of its next turn.
Moment of Glory - blessing (1 Warp Charge) - This power is used before rolling for reserves, and targets one unit that is still in reserve. That unit automatically comes in at the beginning of this turn. If arriving via Deep Strike, it does not roll to scatter. If arriving via outflank, it chooses which table edge to come on. Until the start of its next turn, the unit has a 4+ Invulnerable save, and can declare an assault in the turn it arrives.
Esoteric Knowledge - variable (Warp Charge variable) - The Emperor chooses and casts one psychic power from any of the psychic disciplines in the BRB or the Grey Knights codex.
1st and 2nd Company - 5000pts
86th Ultramar Regiment - 4000pts
Hive Fleet Kraken - 3000pts
Whipped this up in my spare time. The basic concept is every primarch inheriting something from the Emperor. Like Mortarion's toughness, Angron's strength, or Magnus' psychic ability.
1500 points
WS:8/ BS:8/ S:7/ T:7/ W:7/ I:7/ A:6/ LD:10/ SV: 2+/ 3++
Special Rules: Psychic Mastery 6, Unique Powers, Master of Mankind, Master of the Astartes, Primarch, Like Unto A God
Wargear: Interminatus Conquestum, The Aquilla's Grasp, Armor of the Emperor
Powers
The Emperor may not use BRB powers and instead only uses these powers.
+Blood of Golgotha: Witchfire/ Cost:4/ S:7, AP:3/ Assault 6d6/ Range: 36 inches
+Devastation Maelstrom: Witchfire/ Cost:6/ S:10, AP:1/ 10inch blast, MC, Psyfire/ Range: 36 inches
+Wave of Withering: Witchfire/ Cost: 6/ S: D, AP:1/ Hellstorm Template
+Adamantium Arm: Blessing/ Cost: 2/ Target: The Emperor/ Target gains an additional d3 strength and toughness, 1 additional attack, and a 5+ FNP/ 1 turn duration
+Blessings of the Emperor: Blessing/ Cost: 2/ Target: 1 friendly unit within 24 inches the Emperor has line of sight to/ Target unit gains an additional point of Strength, Toughness, and Initiative, a 5+ FNP, and MC to all their attacks../ Duration: 1 turn
+Transliminal Stride: ?/ Cost: 2/ The Emperor makes a fiery enhanced charge, moving in any direction in a straight line 18 inches/ Models that fall in the path (the straight line, it could be drawn with erasable marker) of this charge are hit with a S:10 AP:1 hit.
Army Buffing Rules
=Master of the Astartes: The Emperor can grant any 3 vanilla tactical marine squads any set of legion special rules. These squads are chosen at the beginning of the game.
=Master of Mankind: The Emperor can grant any 2 units Perfect Deepstriking (do not scatter when deep striked). These are chosen at the beginning of the game.
Wargear
***Interminatus Conquestum: The Emperor's name to the Burning Blade. The Emperor is not affected by incandescent. In short this is the Burning Blade without the Incandescent special rule.
***Aquilla's Grasp: S:As User/ AP:2/ Succesful Unsaved wounds caused by this weapon result in the affected permanently losing 1 S, T, & I.
General Special Rules
-Like Unto A God: The Emperor ignores perils of the warp on a 4+, Possesses a 3+ DTW, Models attempting to deny the Emperor's powers have -1 to their DTW (No ballsy guardsmen getting lucky), Ignores Shadows in the Warp, and may not be turned into a Chaos Spawn or Daemonic Herals under any circumstances.
-Immortal: The Emperor does not take multiple wounds from S: D hits, instead only taking one under any circumstances. The Emperor may also attempt to heal two wounds per turn with his IWND.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
Special Rules: [Independent Character]
[Sire of the Primarchs] The Emperor has Adamantium Will, Eternal Warrior, Fear, Fearless, Fleet, and It Will Not Die.
[Master of Mankind] All friendly units within 12" of the Emperor gain Ld10. If these same units also have LoS to the Emperor, they also gain Fearless.
[Mastery of the Warp] The Emperor is Psychic Mastery Level 5, and automatically knows all powers from every non-Chaos discipline. He is also immune to Perils of the Warp. *
[The Anathema of Chaos] Marks and Icons of Chaos do not work when within 12" of the Emperor. Chaos units which are Psykers also suffer a -1 to their Deny the Witch rolls (if below 6+ they cannot use the rule).
* Available disciplines include those from the BRB as well as powers from the Eldar and Grey Knights codicies.
With this, anything is likely to horribly die, especially if it is Chaos
Given the Emperor in his current state could open a solar system sized hole in reality
Citation Needed.
"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life.
Given the Emperor in his current state could open a solar system sized hole in reality
Citation Needed.
It's called the Storm of The Emperor's Wrath. Look it up.
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
So what does a warp storm have to do with a "condensed supernova laser"? The Big E obliterated Horus' sould from the warp, there is no need for some OTT physical death when your soul is obliterated.
OT: I like what you came up with NeoAigaion
Forest hunter sept ~3500 guardians of the covenant 4th company ~ 6000
Warrior based hive fleet
FirePainter wrote: So what does a warp storm have to do with a "condensed supernova laser"? The Big E obliterated Horus' sould from the warp, there is no need for some OTT physical death when your soul is obliterated.
OT: I like what you came up with NeoAigaion
You mean the special rules and statline he got from me but broken due to being able to have 5 blessings on at the same time. Like invisibility, Iron Arm, Endurance, precognition, and Warp Speed?
I take that as a transitive compliment.
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FirePainter wrote: So what does a warp storm have to do with a "condensed supernova laser"? The Big E obliterated Horus' sould from the warp, there is no need for some OTT physical death when your soul is obliterated.
OT: I like what you came up with NeoAigaion
Because it's a feat of similar power.
Edit: I know he's new . How many words and numbers do our posts have in common?
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I honestly want a little feedback on mine, so we can kill any further Emperor rules threads.
It started with me, and it will end with me.
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Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
5000 
Mordian Iron Guard - Major Overhaul in Progress 
1st and 2nd Company - 5000pts
Forest hunter sept ~3500 
guardians of the covenant 4th company ~ 6000
