Night Scythe firing arc

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**Happyjew**

Alright, I'm confused. What does (not) being able to move onto a flyer base have to do with firing arcs?

**grendel083**

Happyjew wrote:
Alright, I'm confused. What does (not) being able to move onto a flyer base have to do with firing arcs?

I think it's called Derailment....

**BlackTalos**

Indeed it was... Both have been answered now so the thread can drop anyway

**Kholzerino**

I wonder if there is anywhere that you can buy a simple shooting arc template... be handy for judging placement of fliers etc... especially doom scythes...

**grendel083**

You can. It's called a square of paper, folded in half across the diagonal.

**Selym**

grendel083 wrote:
You can. It's called a square of paper, folded in half across the diagonal.

Good thinking

**BlackTalos**

Simple Pythagoras theorem?

Height of the weapon: H

Minimum range= TAN(90-22.5°) x H = 2.414 x H

So if your weapon is 5" Heigh, your min range is 12.1"

**Kholzerino**

Yes. I'm imagining something transparent, with a line through the middle to be lined up with the gun's barrel, so that one can see affected models though it from above or side on.

Thanks for the suggestion. Folding up a bit of A4 (which I do a fair bit) is quite messy - excess at the end makes it floppy and tricky to place, you still have to judge the angle you are holding it at in relation to the barrel etc. I could make one pretty easily I guess.

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Nice math. Is that assuming the height that you are aiming at is ground height though? Because surely it is to the model's head/roof? (1"-2"? or even more sometimes).

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Or the ground if it is a Doom Scythe's death ray, I guess.

**BlackTalos**

Obviously it would change, say Hills, if you're on buildings etc, but i'ts a quick "Minimum range" you can measure to =p

**Fragile**

BlackTalos wrote:
Simple Pythagoras theorem?

Height of the weapon: H

Minimum range= TAN(90-22.5°) x H = 2.414 x H

So if your weapon is 5" Heigh, your min range is 12.1"

If you weapon is 5" off the ground, the min range is 10.

**BlackTalos**

Show calculations

**grendel083**

BlackTalos wrote:
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Most models are about 2" tall

So really it's less than 7.5"

**Kholzerino**

This confirms why I need to build myself this thing, or at least do the measurements... I guess a riptide gets hit if you're base to base.

**BlackTalos**

grendel083 wrote:
BlackTalos wrote:
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Most models are about 2" tall

So really it's less than 7.5"

I'd calculate that 8.5" assuming the model is 1.5" (cause you need to see a bit more that just the plume on the helmet =P)

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Kholzerino wrote:
This confirms why I need to build myself this thing, or at least do the measurements... I guess a riptide gets hit if you're base to base.

If you base to base i'd bet your guns are actually pointing at his face...

**Kholzerino**

But 8.5 from the gun, or 8.5 from ground level directly below the gun?

**BlackTalos**

Oh, 8.5 from the Gun's location on the ground to the target.

I thought i used COS the first time i'd though about this:

From the Gun to the target:

Range = 3.5" / COS(67.5) = 9.15" So a bit more due to the inclination

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Or, if you want the *Apply to all* :

Divide the height from the model, to the gun by 0.3827 (Which is COS(90°-22.5°) )