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OK I was watching the Bourne identity and was wondering who would win in a knock down fight Jason Bourne or James Bond? (I am a fan of both by the way!) I am leaning more towards Bourne because James Bond relies on gadgets alot while Bourne uses whatever is lying around (i.e. Bic pen, rolled up newspaper etc.) Just say who and why.

Taken as the respective characters from their respective universes, Bourne should absolutely win, as he's got the genetic boosts, advanced reflexes, and so on.

But, in being true to the characters in their universes, Bond would actually win. Because that's his defining characteristic. Bond always wins.

 Redbeard wrote:
Taken as the respective characters from their respective universes, Bourne should absolutely win, as he's got the genetic boosts, advanced reflexes, and so on.

But, in being true to the characters in their universes, Bond would actually win. Because that's his defining characteristic. Bond always wins.

QFT.
There is no logical reason why James Bond would win, except that James Bond automatically wins everything, so he'd be fething the girls while Jason Bourne collapses from acute Damonitis.

Jeremy Renner as Aaron Cross would spank both of them.

Depends which Bond. Roger "Judo Chop" Moore wouldn't last five seconds, but Daniel Craig (who basically is the "post-Bourne" Bond) would feth Matt Damon over.

 -Shrike- wrote:

 Redbeard wrote:
Taken as the respective characters from their respective universes, Bourne should absolutely win, as he's got the genetic boosts, advanced reflexes, and so on.

But, in being true to the characters in their universes, Bond would actually win. Because that's his defining characteristic. Bond always wins.

QFT.
There is no logical reason why James Bond would win, except that James Bond automatically wins everything.....

The is a reason for this. Bond is British and so is God, it's a secret dream team that no one can beat.

So the premise of the question unfair; it would always be 2 against 1.


Also Bond would drink Bourne under the table - Fact. Bonds drinking is famous where les face it the basic premise of Bourne is: Worst hangover ever!

In a fair fight, Bourne would win. He's tougher, more resourceful, and much more cunning. Plus his body is genetically boosted. Bond seems to have some kinda blessing from god that makes it impossible for him to ever lose. Take that away from him and you have an alcoholic horndog who relies on tech to win. Meanwhile, Bourne will kill you with a Bic pen or a bath towel and a book.

~Tim?

Well, if you drop them into an arena by snatching them from their respective universes while they were eating, on the toilet, etc., Bourne probably wins due to the mentioned genetic doping.

If you put them in the same universe for a while, Bond and all of the MI6 probably gets in on the genetic doping bandwagon, and Bond becomes even better, and would probably win.

Unless it's Sean Connery. Sean Connery wins no matter what. Even if he "lost" he'd just quip some one liner and then Bourne would get hit with a train/plane/falling satellite.

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
In a fair fight, Bourne would win. He's tougher, more resourceful, and much more cunning. Plus his body is genetically boosted. Bond seems to have some kinda blessing from god that makes it impossible for him to ever lose. Take that away from him and you have an alcoholic horndog who relies on tech to win. Meanwhile, Bourne will kill you with a Bic pen or a bath towel and a book.

But that's just it. You can't "take that away from him", because without that, he's not Bond. It doesn't matter what actor or what story, Bond wins. It doesn't matter what the contest is. He drinks people under the table, out-gambles them, out-duels, out-fights, out-shoots, out-runs, out-drives, takes their women, and wins. Bourne is stronger, faster, mentally tougher, more resourceful, that's all true. And it doesn't matter, Bond still wins. Bond has 20+ films where he goes against all sorts of adversaries who are stronger, smarter, tougher, and he just wins.

Saying "take that away from him", is like saying, who wins in a fight, Superman or Jason Stratham. Well, Stratham, obviously, because all Superman has is superpowers, and if you take those away from him, he's a bit of a chump. You can't take them away, if you do, it's not Superman. If you take winning away, it's not Bond.

Bond. Bourne would win in a fair fight, but when has Bond ever fought fair? He always has some trick or tactic ready, and whether it's fair or not, it works.

And, as mentioned above, Bond always wins, regardless.

Bond, because lethal, class III destructive device gadgets.

I think people are underestimating Bond's resourcefulness. He constantly kills people using the environment around him, will create improvised weapons, etc. I'd say Bourne and Bond are closer in the Macguyvering department than people think.

 DogofWar1 wrote:
I think people are underestimating Bond's resourcefulness. He constantly kills people using the environment around him, will create improvised weapons, etc. I'd say Bourne and Bond are closer in the Macguyvering department than people think.

But he doesn't do those things as a function of doing those things. He does those things as a function of winning, which is what Bond does. If doing X is what it takes to win, then Bond can and will do X.

I think they would be so hot for each other they wouldn't fight.

James Bond's nuts are impervious to lasers ...that's gotta count for something?

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I think they would be so hot for each other they wouldn't fight.

So then the real question is: Which one gets to be the man?

Love the responses, but lets keep it clean boys and girls!!

I think that Bourne would be winning and have Bond trapped, but then for some reason not kill him like every other Bond villain. Then Bourne would tell Bond his evil plan (not sure what that would be) and then Bond would escape and beat Bourne. This is the James Bond Plot Formula.

Bourne would beat Bond.

Bond, Q, Mum, MI6, and Bond-Girl all working together will beat Bourne.


That's the problem. Bourne is a lone-wolf, he flies solo and would win the one-on-one fight. But Bond is not just Bond, he is also all his gadgets and his entire team.

If it came down to the BOOK Characters (which Bourne is ridiculously nowhere near his book character in the movies... makes them absolute bullgak)

I agree with d-usa... BUT!!!! only if you convinced Bourne that Bond was infact "The Jackal" in his usual disguise


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 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
In a fair fight, Bourne would win. He's tougher, more resourceful, and much more cunning. Plus his body is genetically boosted. Bond seems to have some kinda blessing from god that makes it impossible for him to ever lose. Take that away from him and you have an alcoholic horndog who relies on tech to win. Meanwhile, Bourne will kill you with a Bic pen or a bath towel and a book.

~Tim?

Where are you guys getting this gak??? Bourne is NOT genetically modified in any way!!! He has gone through some pretty intense psycho rearrangement therapy to block out various bits of his past, in order to better function as a Govt Assassin in which his sole mission was to take on Carlos "the Jackal"

Was he not on the same drugs as Aaron Cross? Because they go into what Cross's drugs did in the last one, and boost his physicals is one of the effects.

Bond wins because his enemies are usually delusional morons who create elaborate death traps and use murder and torture as entertainment. Remember Dr. Evil from the Austin Powers movies? He is based on Bond villains.

Bourne wins because he is more resourceful than his enemies and stays hidden in their blind spot unti ready to strike. Also. Bourne is strictly an assassin where Bond is foremost a spy.

 Redbeard wrote:

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
In a fair fight, Bourne would win. He's tougher, more resourceful, and much more cunning. Plus his body is genetically boosted. Bond seems to have some kinda blessing from god that makes it impossible for him to ever lose. Take that away from him and you have an alcoholic horndog who relies on tech to win. Meanwhile, Bourne will kill you with a Bic pen or a bath towel and a book.

But that's just it. You can't "take that away from him", because without that, he's not Bond. It doesn't matter what actor or what story, Bond wins. It doesn't matter what the contest is. He drinks people under the table, out-gambles them, out-duels, out-fights, out-shoots, out-runs, out-drives, takes their women, and wins. Bourne is stronger, faster, mentally tougher, more resourceful, that's all true. And it doesn't matter, Bond still wins. Bond has 20+ films where he goes against all sorts of adversaries who are stronger, smarter, tougher, and he just wins.

Saying "take that away from him", is like saying, who wins in a fight, Superman or Jason Stratham. Well, Stratham, obviously, because all Superman has is superpowers, and if you take those away from him, he's a bit of a chump. You can't take them away, if you do, it's not Superman. If you take winning away, it's not Bond.

I thought Bond's defining features were his drinking, sexual promiscuity, being an undercover agent, good with guns, martial arts, a good dresser, being cool, etc not the fact that he wins like if I was to give a description of the James Bond saying he always win would not be part of the

description.

On the one hand, it's America (Bourne) vs. Britain (Bond), and that's an obvious loss for Bond.

On the other hand, it's Army (Bourne) vs. Navy (Bond), and that's an obvious loss for Bourne.

So the answer is they'd tie.

Eh, saying Bond wins because he wins is like saying the carebears will beat the raptors (by taming them with the power of friendship!) because they always solve the problem.


You could just as easily say that Bourne's thing is that no one can kill him. Even when they have a sniper with the drop on him.

Most protagonists powers are that they win.

Jimmy Bondi off course! DuDu macht dass shon!

Who would win in a battle between Bourne and Bond?

Bond would own Bourne at Bacarat or any other form of gambling.







Plus, Bond will tkae Bourne's woman.

Easy E, you forgot pictures from the newest Casino Royale

And Bond would win with the one liners... When le Chiffre asks if Bond is life or death yet, and Bond responds with, no my eyes will tear with blood when that happens (or something close)

Bond hands down. Jason can just kill you. Bond does it with style while stealing your girl.