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OTOH, Gear Striders... LOL

 Charistoph wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if Heavy Gear inspired the ProtoMechs... The standard Gear is roughly the same size, while the Gear Striders were about on par with the lighter Mech classes. The standard Gear is MUCH easier to pilot since it doesn't require electronics tattooed in to your skin or for you to have all your limbs removed!

Wonder no more, then! The timing for the release of the ProtoMechs (back in '97 in TRO3060) makes it pretty clear where the inspiration came from ^^.

A 3 year difference can indicate an inspiration, but that's no absolute guarantee. The Protomech concept may have already been considered back in the days when battle-armored Elementals were first proposed in to the game, and Mechs below 20 tons have always been hinted at (though rarely effective). Heavy Gear may have just been a trigger for finalization of the concept and to organize the release for all we know.

I was mostly trying to keep the thread on the Heavy Gear track so it didn't get derailed in to Battletech.

They were released right after HG got its 2nd edition, which was kind of HG's golden era in terms of sales. It was selling like gangbusters and Activision stopped making Mechwarrior games to start doing HG ones.

It was also the very same year Activision went all out with HG, and started going to conventions with this:



A full-sized, completely accurately worked and painted Hunter Gear.

They repainted and rearmed it afterwards for HG2, and I have a pic with a person for scale ^^:



So no, it's absolute no guarantee, but still the fact is that HG was completely stealing Battletech's limelight at the time.

The problem with blowing up a 28mm model up to 15 feet tall is the weapons being totally cartoony. Pity Activision didn't address that.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The problem with blowing up a 10mm model up to 15 feet tall is the weapons being totally cartoony. Pity Activision didn't address that.

Fixed that for you :p. I do think it looks mighty cool, though.

*pushing my imaginary thick glasses further up my nose while speaking with an overly nasal nerd voice* Aaactually... Heavy Gear is 1/144 scale which equates more closely to 12mm. ☺

 Albertorius wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The problem with blowing up a 28mm model up to 15 feet tall is the weapons being totally cartoony. Pity Activision didn't address that.

Fixed that for you :p. I do think it looks mighty cool, though.

No, you didn't. The miniature stands 28mm tall, and the full size model stands 15 feet tall, so the comparisons are direct: 28mm vs 15 feet.

If you wanted to "correct" it, you would have said "10mm" scale.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The problem with blowing up a 28mm model up to 15 feet tall is the weapons being totally cartoony. Pity Activision didn't address that.

Fixed that for you :p. I do think it looks mighty cool, though.

No, you didn't. The miniature stands 28mm tall, and the full size model stands 15 feet tall, so the comparisons are direct: 28mm vs 15 feet.

If you wanted to "correct" it, you would have said "10mm" scale.

If we're being that pedantic, Heavy Gears NEVER have been 28mm tall. Not the RAFM ones, not the 2nd ed tactical ones (from where this one was made), not the Blitz! metals, not the current plastics.

Because, you know, when people say "28mm", they're referring to a scale, not the actual height of a miniature. Because it never is.


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 warboss wrote:
*pushing my imaginary thick glasses further up my nose while speaking with an overly nasal nerd voice* Aaactually... Heavy Gear is 1/144 scale which equates more closely to 12mm. ☺

Granted

I guess to clarify my question, DP9's website seems to be abandoned. Who, if anyone, is currently publishing the game and how would one go about buying new product?

New update for the KS. Arbalestier feet.

And the rest of the arbalestier.

http://dp9forum.com/index.php?/topic/18362-kickstarter-update-arbalestier-3d-printed-parts-preview-%C2%A0/

 Manchu wrote:
I guess to clarify my question, DP9's website seems to be abandoned. Who, if anyone, is currently publishing the game and how would one go about buying new product?

As far as I know, DP9 has abandoned their webpage for the KS updates and Facebook. Webstore is still functional, I think, and AFAIK is basically the only way to buy from them.

It's just that they haven't had an actual release in ages.

Oh wacky, I was getting some kind of google ad whenever I tried to acces their webpage but just tried again and it worked.

 Manchu wrote:
I guess to clarify my question, DP9's website seems to be abandoned. Who, if anyone, is currently publishing the game and how would one go about buying new product?

Oooo... I wasn't aware of that. Visiting DP9.com gets you a redirect to a long and sketchy URL that just set off my virus protection to block whatever it was trying to do. Same thing with the store.dp9 website. I haven't visited either in a while as I only check out the forums every week or two but that definitely wasn't the case the last time I did visit the main sites (don't recall when that exactly was though).

Website should be working, last I checked. I need to do some SSL config so it's all SSL-friendly. There shouldn't be any weird redirects.

 Balance wrote:
Website should be working, last I checked. I need to do some SSL config so it's all SSL-friendly. There shouldn't be any weird redirects.

I haven't rechecked it for obvious reasons but here is the list of errors and redirects that my Avast antivirus found. I closed the dp9 store window as soon as the first error popped up again so the malware warning that comes second didn't get a chance. The malware infected prize url is what both sites tried to redirect to (and that small url was followed by a ton of URL gibberish that filled up the entire location bar).

That's weird. I'm checking on my side and don't see anything. There was an issue several months ago but it's been quiet since then.

Any chance the malware you mention is an issue with your local device? I’ll see if Avast has a way to resubmit, too. I’m checking via Google’s webmaster tools.

 Balance wrote:
That's weird. I'm checking on my side and don't see anything. There was an issue several months ago but it's been quiet since then.

Any chance the malware you mention is an issue with your local device?

I ran a full virus check just in case both with Avast and Malwarebytes after getting the message and nothing on my end locally came up. I went to both DP9 sites afterwards just now and they both seem to work. I doubt it was just on my end given that two different people got some sort of error going to the sites (Manchu and myself); in my case, I didn't get the sketchy ad Manchu got likely because it got blocked before completing. Whatever it was, it's gone now though. I have no idea if malware programs are smart enough to recognize they've been blocked and deactivate itself in response or if it was a timed error/outage at the sites.

Thanks. I checked it with google's tools as well as this one avast recommends:

https://www.virustotal.com

Looks clean at the moment. Wondering if that was from the issues a few months back. I'm still working on a larger update because it makes me happy and to switch to a more stable and higher-performing platform.

I also checked after reading it, and had no problems, same as when I went there a few weeks ago out of boredom.

 Balance wrote:
Thanks. I checked it with google's tools as well as this one avast recommends:

https://www.virustotal.com

Looks clean at the moment. Wondering if that was from the issues a few months back. I'm still working on a larger update because it makes me happy and to switch to a more stable and higher-performing platform.

Thanks for the resource! I've added that as a bookmark just in case. Like I said, it resolved itself but it was definitely doing something fishy for a while there. I wouldn't have known myself except that Manchu clarified his earlier post to mean about the websites rather than the overall health of the IP.

Utopia KS update is up. Showing off the Gilgamesh.

https://dp9forum.com/index.php?/topic/18366-kickstarter-update-gilgamesh-command-tank-3d-printed-parts-preview/

While there's nothing wrong with it overall, to me it feels rather dated as a whole, especially as a centerpiece style model.

Eh, Utopia isn't my favorite build style of the Heavy Gear lines.

 Mmmpi wrote:
Utopia KS update is up. Showing off the Gilgamesh.

https://dp9forum.com/index.php?/topic/18366-kickstarter-update-gilgamesh-command-tank-3d-printed-parts-preview/

While there's nothing wrong with it overall, to me it feels rather dated as a whole, especially as a centerpiece style model.

To say nothing of how having stuff that size in a HG game is usually annoying...

That too.

It's also the fact that it's kinda big... but have not much detail to speak of. Kinda like the old Armorcast titans back in the 90s and the like.

 Albertorius wrote:
It's also the fact that it's kinda big... but have not much detail to speak of. Kinda like the old Armorcast titans back in the 90s and the like.

I was thinking the same thing. Is the resin stressed around the video game controller d-pads or is that some left over mould release? I'm really not a fan of the shallow detail on the tracks especially the road wheels. I don't know if its the soft curves and details but it's giving me a child's toy impression rather than a tabletop miniatures centerpiece model. I hope I'm wrong about some of that and also that it looks significantly better painted.

Well, wait until you see the price... at that size, and coming from DP9, it quite probably won't be less than USD$100.

It was $90 in the kickstarter, so I'm guessing it'll be roughly $130.

 Albertorius wrote:
It's also the fact that it's kinda big... but have not much detail to speak of. Kinda like the old Armorcast titans back in the 90s and the like.

Smooth surfaces was basically the deal with Utopian units. The lack of greebling becomes more obvious when you go to bigger units.

They could have scribed panel lines or somesuch.

 John Prins wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
It's also the fact that it's kinda big... but have not much detail to speak of. Kinda like the old Armorcast titans back in the 90s and the like.

Smooth surfaces was basically the deal with Utopian units. The lack of greebling becomes more obvious when you go to bigger units.

I feel that they definitely could have done more. The Tau Devilfish is a 15 year old kit and it has more detail and feels complete despite the same issue of large areas of smooth surfaces on roughly the same size. FW kits go even bigger for Tau and didn't suffer from that either. YMMV.